Parents Warned About Internet .mp3 Drugs

DiscoDan · Post by **DiscoDan** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:08 pm

blackcauldron85 · Post by **blackcauldron85** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:51 pm

I've never heard of that before. I don't get it...I mean, I guess I can see how it could make you super-calm, maybe...? I think, though, if the idosing websites are bringing people to real drug sites, then that in itself is a huge problem...but I don't know enough about the idosing itself to make a judgment, but I'm skeptical...

DiscoDan · Post by **DiscoDan** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:15 pm

I'm not so sure I buy the fact that mere audio files can make the brain act abnormally, but I know sound waves are used for a lot of weird things, and the i-doses definitely sound different than regular sounds to me.

Here's another news article on it:

http://www.news.com.au/technology/idosi ... z0tpNHrD7X

Also, I found out the way to properly "i-dose" is to listen to one of the files (most are 30 minutes long, some "quick doses" are 10 minutes) through headphones in a completely dark room. It might just be that the increase in imagination through the demonic/otherworldly sound and being in the dark makes the mind unstable or something.

Whatever it is, just from the way my head feels after listening to a few seconds, I'm too scared to experiment around with it.

rexcrk · Post by **rexcrk** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:37 pm

I actually wanna try this just to see if it works lol. What's the site you go to for it?

PeterPanfan · Post by **PeterPanfan** » Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:53 am

It's probably more of the mindset that you think you're getting high... I doubt it actually does much.

DiscoDan · Post by **DiscoDan** » Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:12 am

rexcrk wrote:I actually wanna try this just to see if it works lol. What's the site you go to for it?

I'm sure you can find some just by googling "I-doser" but if not PM me..

And I think there's an actual science to this. The sound files use "Binaural Beats" which according to wiki

wikipedia wrote:The brain produces a phenomenon resulting in low-frequency pulsations in the loudness and sound localization of a perceived sound when two tones at slightly different frequencies are presented separately, one to each of a subject's ears, using stereo headphones. A beating tone will be perceived, as if the two tones mixed naturally, out of the brain. The frequency of the tones must be below about 1,000 to 1,500 hertz for the beating to be heard. The difference between the two frequencies must be small (below about 30 Hz) for the effect to occur; otherwise, the two tones will be heard separately and no beat will be perceived.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_beats

Here's another source describing the science of it:

http://www.web-us.com/thescience.htm

That site claims listening to "Binaural Beats" could have a wide variety effects on the body including "relaxation, meditation, stress reduction, pain management, improved sleep quality, decrease in sleep requirements, super learning, enhanced creativity and intuition, remote viewing, telepathy, and out-of-body experience and lucid dreaming. Audio embedded with binaural beats is often combined with various meditation techniques, as well as positive affirmations and visualization." (note that that source also sells binaural beat CDs)

I'm too scared to try it, but I would like to hear a reaction from someone who isn't a 13 year old

disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:32 pm

DiscoDan wrote:
Whatever it is, just from the way my head feels after listening to a few seconds, I'm too scared to experiment around with it.

Yeah....I just listend to a few seconds of it already and head feels like it was idk...weird...I don't need anything like that I have enough medical problems already....I think youtube should ban it from their site...because right now I still feel dizzy from listening to 10 seconds of it on youtube......and It feels like i idk I don't like it.....ow I need to lay down

Lazario · Post by **Lazario** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:19 am

Are they all uppers?

Any of them downers?

(I guess I should just read the link but I'm lazy)

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:21 pm

disneyboy20022 wrote:
DiscoDan wrote:
Whatever it is, just from the way my head feels after listening to a few seconds, I'm too scared to experiment around with it.
Yeah....I just listend to a few seconds of it already and head feels like it was idk...weird...I don't need anything like that I have enough medical problems already....I think youtube should ban it from their site...because right now I still feel dizzy from listening to 10 seconds of it on youtube......and It feels like i idk I don't like it.....ow I need to lay down

oh give me a break...

Edit: this article basically explains my view on all this.
http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/07/21/wh ... calm-down/

Lazario · Post by **Lazario** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:58 am

I'm with Kyle on this one.

Music can obviously have an effect on us. It's well documented. Dancing makes us feel better, hard music can relieve stress, and this garbage gives me a headache. Rock 'n roll defined a generation not just because of the lyrics. Hip hop became a phenomenon and not just because of cursing and controversy. Disco. Country. Classical. These are much more than sounds. Their feeling does things to people.

So... people have been getting up'd and down'd by this music since music was born.

Duckburger · Post by **Duckburger** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:43 pm

Sigh... this is just all kinds of stupid. Have these journalists not heard of a simple placebo effect.

I mean, are they really serious? 'Cause this is pretty damn stupid, even for the media - and that's saying something. First of all, you can NOT -- hear that, crazy people/journalists in the video -- NOT get high off of sounds. Furthermore, who authorized this media 'report', what 'expert' said that this is really the case. Did they even investigate something... anything? No? Didn't think so.

I'm guessing that this is either to shock parents and get ratings, or the local townspeople were just really, really bored. Either way, it's ridiculous that these so-called journalists even get the chance to report something like this on tv. Also, isn't it humorous that they want to 'protect the children', yet feel the need to rapport on it on national television. I can only imagine what the thoughts were behind that.

Only in America!

Goliath · Post by **Goliath** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:04 pm

Duckburger wrote:Sigh... this is just all kinds of stupid. Have these journalists not heard of a simple placebo effect.

Serious journalism has died a long time ago in the US... and we're (Europe) are not far off...

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:14 pm

Duckburger wrote:I mean, are they really serious? 'Cause this is pretty damn stupid, even for the media - and that's saying something. First of all, you can NOT -- hear that, crazy people/journalists in the video -- NOT get high off of sounds. Furthermore, who authorized this media 'report', what 'expert' said that this is really the case. Did they even investigate something... anything? No? Didn't think so.

I'm guessing that this is either to shock parents and get ratings, or the local townspeople were just really, really bored. Either way, it's ridiculous that these so-called journalists even get the chance to report something like this on tv. Also, isn't it humorous that they want to 'protect the children', yet feel the need to rapport on it on national television. I can only imagine what the thoughts were behind that.

yeah, this all reads like an onion report.

Goliath · Post by **Goliath** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:22 pm

Had to think of this while reading Duckburger's rant:

What we call the news

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pap64 · Post by **pap64** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:31 pm

Goliath wrote:Had to think of this while reading Duckburger's rant:

What we call the news

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And this is why I don't bother with the news anymore.

Worse are SENSATIONALISTIC news shows that take even the simplest of accidents and turn it into something far worse than a Greek tragedy!

I HATE Primer Impacto (First Impact) on Latin TV. Seriously, only they could turn the Swine Flu into the Resident Evil Umbrella virus and claim "That all hope for humanity is lost" (I swear to God they actually said that...)

Duckburger · Post by **Duckburger** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:56 pm

You're not alone with the whole Swine Flu craze.

I swear, I was about to throw my tv set out of the window if they didn't stop talking about it on the news like it was some sort of life threatening virus. The vaccine is *probably* twenty times more dangerous anyway, but you won't see that on television.

Needless to say, I don't bother with the news (on television) anymore.

littlefuzzy · Post by **littlefuzzy** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:24 pm

This makes me think of the South Park episode: World Wide Recorder Concert, where a "Brown Noise" could make people... ermm... "fill" their pants.

DiscoDan · Post by **DiscoDan** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:22 pm

I agree television is going down the drain, but you can't really blame the reporters for doing a bit on it. A school in Oklahoma sent a warning letter to parents because a bunch of kids started acting strange due to a so-called drug (presumably one student claimed to see 'paint peeling off the walls'). That's a pretty big deal. Why shouldn't an Oklahoma news station do a follow up?

I also don't see why this is any less believable than getting high off smoking a plant. If it was just a weird rave song, maybe I'd be more suspicious, but there is something science-like about the sound waves of an "i-dose" and the two-tone beats going simultaneously in different ears that logically, to me, seems like it could case some kind of increased bodily reaction than normal listening-to-music emotions.

Placebo effect or not, I'm not really worried about it, because even if it is damaging to people at least it's not smelly and at least it won't cause them them to kill people while driving (unless their i-dosing on the road I suppose LOL). Still, saying it's a bunch of poppycock with confidence is a little silly to me, considering what all other random things we scientifically know to make us high.

ajmrowland · Post by **ajmrowland** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:01 pm

Duckburger wrote:You're not alone with the whole Swine Flu craze.

I swear, I was about to throw my tv set out of the window if they didn't stop talking about it on the news like it was some sort of life threatening virus. The vaccine is *probably* twenty times more dangerous anyway, but you won't see that on television.

Needless to say, I don't bother with the news (on television) anymore.

I know! I went through the swine flu last Halloween(sucks-I have to take care of myself and answer for trick-r-treaters). I ended up with a mild infection that we took care of without need for the vaccine. It was a week or so off of school. that's it. nothing life-threatening.

Goliath · Post by **Goliath** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:18 pm

littlefuzzy wrote:This makes me think of the South Park episode: World Wide Recorder Concert, where a "Brown Noise" could make people... ermm... "fill" their pants.

That's strange... That happened to me when I checked one of those "i-dose" videos. I didn't lay down on my bed in a dark room, as was suggested, but I sat up and closed my eyes and concentrated intensely on the sounds I was hearing. It made me feel a little dizzy in the head and it.. well, like the South Park. episode, it causes a (short) 'sensation'.. Very strange.

I can't say I got 'high'. I didn't notice much. But I said the same thing the first time I smoked pot: I didn't notice anything different, but my friends noticed a lot of things about me, so I guess it worked after all.

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