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Rudy Matt wrote:
I was talking in the present tense. The examples you're listing are 60 years old.
Well, present tense is today. That excludes your beloved Eisner films. But if you want to include those versus TS3, so be it. You have either a short memory or no faith in the company you are here to discuss. "disney would never dare make a scene like that!" Come on, what nonsense.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Jaded, much?
But the thing that makes Woody special, is he'll never give up on you... ever. He'll be there for you, no matter what.
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yay.

What you call jaded, I call "I've seen and studied every single animated feature ever made by the Disney studios, exhautively, and what you are saying is nonsense."
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Rudy Matt wrote:yay.

What you call jaded, I call "I've seen and studied every single animated feature ever made by the Disney studios, exhautively, and what you are saying is nonsense."
It's nice of you that you feel the need to defend Disney that much, but can't you at least admit you're wrong? I've never seen anything remotely like the incinerator scene in any Disney movie, even though Night on Bald Mountain sort of comes close.
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Rudy Matt wrote:
I was talking in the present tense. The examples you're listing are 60 years old.
Well, present tense is today. That excludes your beloved Eisner films. But if you want to include those versus TS3, so be it. You have either a short memory or no faith in the company you are here to discuss. "disney would never dare make a scene like that!" Come on, what nonsense.
Yes, present tense is today. I'm not -and was not- talking about "my beloved Eisner films". I was simply saying that nowadays, Disney would never dare putting such a daring, emotional, heavy scene in its films. Would you care to react to that or just keep bringing up things that have nothing to do with what I said?
Rudy Matt wrote:yay.

What you call jaded, I call "I've seen and studied every single animated feature ever made by the Disney studios, exhautively, [...]
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I just saw this today, and was blown away. This is what films are all about. I agree with what everybody has said here about the emotion and ingenuity. Never have I come so close to crying at the movies. I would write more, but I feel kinda tired, so I'll save it for tomorrow.
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Okasy, the room in home is really cool! Theres some Toy Story music, they have minigames- when you knock the blocks over in one, you can see your avatar being a orchestra conductor- and the room is decorated with everything in His Room in the movie. even the books have the correct titles.

The only thing thats missing that every straight teenage guy has are the pictures of hot models.
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So I just got back from seeing this, and it was everything I could imagine and more in the final Toy Story movie. It was "beyond Infinity".

The biggest worry I had with the movie when I first walked into the theater, was how they were going to open the movie since the openings for the first two were great. It didn't disappoint at all, and was probably the best opening in any of the Toy Storys.

[SPOILERS BEGIN HERE--HIGHLIGHT]
I loved the references to Andy's playtime from both the first and second movies as a real event occurring, and how perfectly executed it was. They meshed everything together into a great plot for the beginning. It was like nostalgic trivia to a fan like me because I tried remembering every bit of those scenes and tried to remember what was going to happen next in every moment of it. Great fan service right there.

Then the film Andy's mom took of Andy growing up. That was even sadder than Elle's death at the beginning of Up. Especially when you hear the ending of Randy Newman's song echo into the present Andy's Room, which is so much gloomier because all the toys bustling in the first two films are gone (including Bo Peep :cry:).

Lotzo was the perfect villain for this movie. I love that underneath that cuddly, fluffy exterior was some "Big Tony" of a mafia gang at the Daycare center.

The climax in the incinerator was very intense. It was actually one of the tensest climaxes I ever felt for a movie. I really thought for a minute that it was going to be the end for them, and since I had grown with these characters for so long, the ending was much more powerful. When they started holding hands together, I was praying to Lasseter, don't kill them off! and then, that wonderful "Claw" sequence (right before that happened, I had actually guessed the Aliens were going to save them to my friend, and being the first time to see it, we laughed our butts off, because I was right). It was an easy guess seeing as the aliens went in the opposite direction. Though they may be annoying, at last they came in handy sometime during the trilogy.

Anyway, the ending was great and sad. I wasn't on the verge of tears, but in my heart I was crying. Though it was a new beginning, I was still gonna miss Andy, and it really hit me because it felt like my childhood was ending with the movie.

[SPOILERS END HERE]

So in closing, ya, it was a really great ending to a really great trilogy. And it's totally a movie for any age group. It was a lot more dark and mature than the first two and I felt like they were directing this at the kids of the 90s who grew up with Toy Story 1 and 2, with all the references. Now I just don't want any freaking sequels or followups, be they direct-to-dvd or theatrical. Toy Story 3 was the best way and the only way to end the series.
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^^ I really, really hate peopple *facepalm*
But the thing that makes Woody special, is he'll never give up on you... ever. He'll be there for you, no matter what.
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Ok, more thoughts on the movie:
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1.The beginning was superb, and since I had recently watched the original, I knew like every line they were about to say (excluding the inclusions of Jessie, Buzz, and One-Eyed Betty). I love how One-Eyed Betty is a foreshadowing of Mrs. Potato Head losing her eye for most of the film. Death by Monkeys was hilarious!
2. When the toys were calling Andy to have him play with them, I seriously thought Woody was going to talk to him like he did to Sid. The toy's melancholy dialouge after the failed attempt really had me.
3. The whole scene where Woody tries to convince the toys to go back with him was very emotional to me. Even Buzz wouldn't listen to him!
4. Lotso was...despicable. He's got to be one of the most evil villains in all of cinema history. His methods of torture are quite frightening. In fact, because of his appearance and deeds, I'm almost questioning the G rating bestowed upon the film by the MPAA, since this is probably even darker than the Incredibles or Up.
5. As others have said, the incinerator sequence is extremely emotional, and I also thought Pixar would actually kill them all off. Geez, you would think no one would care about a couple of toys...
6. The ending had me. I couldn't bear the thought of Woody saying goodbye to Andy, but it was very well handled. The last line very nearly had me in tears.

I agree with everyone that the new toys hardly get any screentime, but I guess this really isn't about them, no? I was also very surprised that there was virtually no one in the theater I went to. Probably all went to see Eclipse.
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SmartAleck25 wrote: I'm almost questioning the G rating bestowed upon the film by the MPAA, since this is probably even darker than the Incredibles or Up.
I think that that's an interesting point, although both of those movies have more violence...
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They do have more violence, but I don't know, somehow pointing a gun at someone (to me) isn't as frightening as a hand yanking you down into certain death.
Maybe that's cause I've seen that countless times. But the scene where Mr. Incredible learns all of his comrades are TERMINATED and he thinks his family has been too, that's very powerful too, just as Ellie's death was. Those two and the incinerator sequence are all extremely powerful to me.
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SmartAleck25 wrote:Ok, more thoughts on the movie:
I'm almost questioning the G rating bestowed upon the film by the MPAA, since this is probably even darker than the Incredibles or Up.
The MPAA is corrupt. It's likely Disney did what a ton of other studios do and sent them a nice check with a note saying "look the other way"
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Haven't posted here in a while, but I saw the movie yesterday and TOTALLY loved it. And I was on the brink of bursting into tears during the last 15 minutes...this is a very emotional movie for those who've invested a lot in these characters.

I agree the film gets very dark and disturbing in places and I'm surprised Disney was able to get away with the "G" rating when parts of it certainly had the potential to drift into "PG" territory. Sad not to see old reliables like Bo Peep (realistically she wouldn't have lasted through half these new adventures!).

The final scene...OMG..the end of an era for sure. I could see echoes of myself in the Andy character having to literally pack up his childhood... But I doubt we've seen the last of Woody, Buzz, Jessie and the gang. It's a new generation's Toy Story now.
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Oh, and Mister Tortilla Man....GENIUS!
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blackcauldron85 wrote:Gender Wars and TS3
http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... d-ts3.html
As a film scholar, I rarely dismiss an analysis of a movie simply because I don't agree with it. Because even an anlysis that I don't agree with, can be properly argued and well thought through. But this is just sheer nonsense.

First of all: they're toys. Not people. Toys. It's silly to see Mrs. Potatohead as some 'symbol of female empowerment'. It's a toy you can take apart. Second: the writer seems to forget Barbie (for decades the -rightfull- enemy of all feminists) plays a large part in the escape from the daycare center.
Cordy_Biddle wrote:The final scene...OMG..the end of an era for sure. I could see echoes of myself in the Andy character having to literally pack up his childhood... But I doubt we've seen the last of Woody, Buzz, Jessie and the gang. It's a new generation's Toy Story now.
I *hope* we've seen the last of them. And I say that because I'm a fan. I would hate to see the series being screwed up with yet another sequel, just because Disney wants to make some more money out of it. This was the best ending possible, and it really *is* an ending. If there's another sequel, this one loses all its meaning. The films are about the toys and their relationship to Andy. Not to some other child.
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I might finally be seeing TS3 this weekend!

So, so, so excited!
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Yep, I totally agree with that. But I can't help feeling (in some niggly way) that Disney *may* try to create new adventures for the toys... It's business for them unfortunately, and these characters draw in millions. But yes this was the most satisfying and perfect ending to the story we could have ever hoped for...
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We're already getting series of Toy Story shorts, so we know we havent seen the last of them. time will tell if it will be in continuity or not.
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Kyle wrote:We're already getting series of Toy Story shorts, so we know we havent seen the last of them. time will tell if it will be in continuity or not.
You took the words right out of my mouth. I don't think they'll have enough story to make new feature-length films about our favorite toys. But I would like them to continue the story as a series of shorts. That would be ideal.
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