Tangled (formerly Rapunzel) Discussion - Part II

[Disney Duster]

Complete and uniformly excellent? The most since Sleeping Beauty? What about 101 Dalmatians? And I found The Princess and the Frog to be very messy, just like jpanimation.

[Rudy Matt]

Complete and uniformly excellent? The most since Sleeping Beauty? What about 101 Dalmatians? And I found The Princess and the Frog to be very messy, just like jpanimation.

Not complete and uniformly excellent...that doesn't even apply to Sleeping Beauty. I said the MOST complete and uniformly excellent since Sleeping Beauty. 101 Dalmatians has recycled animation, and a rushed, third act resolution not befitting the great writing of the 1st and even 2nd acts.

[Goliath]

Really? I thought [Princess and the Frog] was the best one since Lilo & Stitch.

Bingo! That's the truth. But it can't hold a canlde to Lilo, though.

I know what it's like to have guilty pleasure. There are bad movies I enjoyed as a kid, and with nostalgia still enjoy now, but I certainly recognize the poor quality. I try to distinct the two (between how much I enjoy a film and the quality of the film) when I can [...]

I do, too, but it's a concept that most of UD has trouble grasping, so it seems.

I think Princess and the Frog's failure was due to falt-out racism.

Clear and utter bullshit. And Cars didn't do well because liberals hate cars, right? You said that in the Pixar-thread. Give me a break, please! One crazy, bizarre statement after the other paranoid claim. Everything, literally every cooky excuse is good enough for you to defent a very weak film, is'n't it? Including the preposterous claim it's the best film since Sleeping Beauty.

Rudy Matt's nonsensical statements about PatF have been thoroughly debunked by yours truly in this thread:

http://www.dvdizzy.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 651#510651

[ajmrowland]

Some people will think it's Pixar.

Not with those trailers, more like DreamWorks

A couple commenters dont have that view. They see the Disney logo and the CGI and think it's Pixar, no matter how Dreamworks-ish the trailer is.

[Goliath]

Interestingly, people on the Dutch Disney forum I advertise in my signature, also thought the trailer for Tangled looked like a DreamWorks-production. They said it looks like a clone of Shrek. Could this backfire for Disney? People thinking this is just a lame copycat and decide to not go see it?

[ajmrowland]

Really? I thought it was the best one since Lilo & Stitch.

I agree. Hard to believe it was that long since we got anything worthwhile from them.

agreed about Lilo and Stitch being the best, but I still enjoy Bolt and Treasure Planet.

[DisneyJedi]

I think Princess and the Frog's failure was due to falt-out racism.

Clear and utter bullshit. And Cars didn't do well because liberals hate cars, right? You said that in the Pixar-thread. Give me a break, please! One crazy, bizarre statement after the other paranoid claim. Everything, literally every cooky excuse is good enough for you to defent a very weak film, is'n't it? Including the preposterous claim it's the best film since Sleeping Beauty.

Rudy Matt's nonsensical statements about PatF have been thoroughly debunked by yours truly in this thread:

http://www.dvdizzy.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 651#510651

I don't think "racial issues" had anything to do with the movie's "failure". The movie was pitted against other big moneymakers, both good and terrible.

[DisneyDude2010]

Has anyone else noticed when Rapunzel leaves her tower she takes the frying pan with her
You can make out the hock of the frying pan on Rapunzel's lap!

Please Correct me if I am wrong.

[supertalies]

Yes, you're right.

I guess she will be cooking her own meals!

[Super Aurora]

She's a woman. She knows her place and knows she must cook for her man.

[SWillie!]

She's a woman. She knows her place and knows she must cook for her man.

You win the thread. As well any others that have come before or will come after this.

[DisneyJedi]

Forgive me if I am drilling this into everyone's heads, but is the movie's CGI still going to have a painterly look- in other words, a hand-drawn animation feel- or was that abandoned long ago?

[Super Aurora]

Forgive me if I am drilling this into everyone's heads, but is the movie's CGI still going to have a painterly look- in other words, a hand-drawn animation feel- or was that abandoned long ago?

the latter.

[DisneyJedi]

Forgive me if I am drilling this into everyone's heads, but is the movie's CGI still going to have a painterly look- in other words, a hand-drawn animation feel- or was that abandoned long ago?

the latter.

Well, crap. I was really hoping for the former.

[RodryCroft]

Did you read this????

"There are rumors that Rapunzel could be delayed until 2011, and Winnie the Pooh would be the movie that we would see on 24 December. This is a result of the changes that Glen Keane has made in the film, so it could be to rethink a big part of the film. However, this remains as a rumor, because the charge of Walt Disney Animation Studios are looking at July as the last month to work in the animation of the film."

Source: www.disneynoticiasmexico.blogspot.com"
(I tried to translate as best I could for your comprehension)

I want the final film perfect, and I trust the decisions of Glen Keane more than in any other Disney Animation, because as you all, I've been waiting for it a long time. But it was almost planned my trip to New York to be there at the premiere on November and I still want to go xD

So, what do you think??? It may finally make this movie as great as it seemed when Glen was directing

(Sorry my bad english, by the way xD)

[toonaspie]

Did you read this????

"There are rumors that Rapunzel could be delayed until 2011, and Winnie the Pooh would be the movie that we would see on 24 December. This is a result of the changes that Glen Keane has made in the film, so it could be to rethink a big part of the film. However, this remains as a rumor, because the charge of Walt Disney Animation Studios are looking at July as the last month to work in the animation of the film."

Source: www.disneynoticiasmexico.blogspot.com"
(I tried to translate as best I could for your comprehension)

I want the final film perfect, and I trust the decisions of Glen Keane more than in any other Disney Animation, because as you all, I've been waiting for it a long time. But it was almost planned my trip to New York to be there at the premiere on November and I still want to go xD

So, what do you think??? It may finally make this movie as great as it seemed when Glen was directing

(Sorry my bad english, by the way xD)

Wouldnt surprised me if Tangled got delayed. Judging by the trailer, it doesnt even look like this film even has a story yet.

[Polizzi]

If Disney's, "Rapunzel (Tangled)," gets delayed till next year, then Disney will have a chance to work on the story more, and best of all, feel free to say, "I don't think so Polizzi, but we'll see," change the name back...maybe. I know that Disney would probably refuse to do it, but if Disney's, "Winnie the Pooh," becomes successful, maybe they could, but not quite, reconsider...maybe. Just a thought.

[jpanimation]

I'm not going to get my hopes up. This almost seems like a rumor started just to get fans excited. I mean, we all know how much fans want to see Glene Keane's traditional fairy tale take on the Rapunzel story (with painterly look?) and how much fans want it to be called Rapunzel again (changed to "Tangled" due to it's departure from the Rapunzel story, even though we know it was actually just marketing's attempt to get boys to see it).

On the other hand, I've heard Pooh production has been going smoothly. They finished their story with little problems and started the animation with no hitches. I wouldn't be surprised if Winnie the Pooh wrapped up earlier then anticipated.

Still, this doesn't mean anything. Can you imagine just how much this would increase Rapunzel's production costs (making changes this late in the game)? Early screenings have had positive reactions, so unless they think these changes are really THAT good, why bother? Glen Keane and John Lasseter are the executive producers, so I think they have this power, but they'd certainly need a good explanation to exercise it.

I don't know if this means anything but Apple Trailers just posted the Rapunzel trailer yesterday with the November 5th release date. If they were planning on delaying it, I think they would've told marketing to cool it down.

[DisneyJedi]

I don't know if this means anything but Apple Trailers just posted the Rapunzel trailer yesterday with the November 5th release date. If they were planning on delaying it, I think they would've told marketing to cool it down.

I thought it was being released November 24th?

[jpanimation]

I thought it was being released November 24th?

There are two dates on the page, November 5th and November 24th. I just went with the one that had larger text:

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/disney/tangled/

For a moment there, I almost forgot just how good Disney marketing is