Roger Ebert reviews "Walt and El Grupo"

[Rudy Matt]

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbc ... 01/reviews

Pretty good review, although it has a glaring factual error in the opening paragraph...the Burbank studio was not built with the profits of Pinocchio and Fantasia. One would think it common knowledge these days that there were no profits from Pinocchio and Fantasia because of the turmoil in Europe - Pinocchio did not recoup all its costs, and Fantasia was something of a debacle. It chaps my ass that elite film critics know details inside and out regarding the works of live action directors but seem to have no working knowledge at all of animation history.

Aside from that, good review.

[Margos]

It chaps my ass that elite film critics know details inside and out regarding the works of live action directors but seem to have no working knowledge at all of animation history.

Amen, brother!
It's sort of like how the academy created a segregated category for animated films, out of fear that, just maybe, one would be exceptional enough to win Best Picture.
For some reason, animation has become known as a "children's medium." I have never been able to understand it. If you think about it, animation is sort of the apex art form. (drawing + painting + music + acting + cinematography + writing + sculpting (maquettes, or in stop-motion))

Sorry to have gotten off-topic from the review. But it bugs me, too.

[Rudy Matt]

It chaps my ass that elite film critics know details inside and out regarding the works of live action directors but seem to have no working knowledge at all of animation history.

Amen, brother!
It's sort of like how the academy created a segregated category for animated films, out of fear that, just maybe, one would be exceptional enough to win Best Picture.
For some reason, animation has become known as a "children's medium." I have never been able to understand it. If you think about it, animation is sort of the apex art form. (drawing + painting + music + acting + cinematography + writing + sculpting (maquettes, or in stop-motion))

Sorry to have gotten off-topic from the review. But it bugs me, too.

I blame Saturday morning cartoons. But to be fair, even though Walt used animation for multiple purposes (and even made some violent and even disturbing works) he also made the Mickey Mouse Club and his TV show was a staple of family entertainment for three decades.

[yukitora]

I understand why people see animation as a children's medium. The idea had been around even before saturday cartoons/tv evident by Walt's comments. Remember when he said 'I don't make films soley for children, but the child within us adults'? (or something like that, or something completely different, I forget lol).

I guess just somewhere along the line of the evolution of modern human society, adults decided they didn't want to be children anymore... possible due to the death of innocence or merely having a bad childhood. It's really a complex psychological question this topic

[Rudy Matt]

I understand why people see animation as a children's medium. The idea had been around even before saturday cartoons/tv evident by Walt's comments. Remember when he said "I don't make films soley for children, but the child within us adults"? (or something like that, or something completely different, I forget lol).

I guess just somewhere along the time of evolution of modern human society, adults decided they didn't want to be children anymore... it's really a complex psychological question this topic

Walt was making an almost exestintial point...He did not make movie for kids, he made movies period, and his movie were fanciful and he hoped those movies reached everyone and the adults would recognize and embrace the novelty of his efforts.

[yukitora]

the quote was used to explain the second part of the post. as in people stop wanting to 'recognize and embrace the novelty of his efforts.'

[Rudy Matt]

the quote was used to explain the second part of the post. as in people stop wanting to 'recognize and embrace the novelty of his efforts.'

I'm confused.

[Escapay]

Bumping this up so more news about it can be here instead of in the SA/TTC thread:



Extras:
Audio Commentary - Director Theodore Tomas and historian J.B. Kaufman
Photos in Motion - How the photos literally came to life
From the Director's Cut - 3 different segments taking you deeper into the story
Saludos Amigos - Original theatrical version
Original theatrical trailers: Saludos Amigos and The Three Caballeros

[milojthatch]

Bumping this up so more news about it can be here instead of in the SA/TTC thread:



Extras:
Audio Commentary - Director Theodore Tomas and historian J.B. Kaufman
Photos in Motion - How the photos literally came to life
From the Director's Cut - 3 different segments taking you deeper into the story
Saludos Amigos - Original theatrical version
Original theatrical trailers: Saludos Amigos and The Three Caballeros

So it is true then, it includes the full version of "Saludos Amigos?" Nice.

[Heil Donald Duck]

Bumping this up so more news about it can be here instead of in the SA/TTC thread:



Extras:
Audio Commentary - Director Theodore Tomas and historian J.B. Kaufman
Photos in Motion - How the photos literally came to life
From the Director's Cut - 3 different segments taking you deeper into the story
Saludos Amigos - Original theatrical version
Original theatrical trailers: Saludos Amigos and The Three Caballeros

So it is true then, it includes the full version of "Saludos Amigos?" Nice.

We still must not forget our Facebook group. But Thank good I brought the latest Caballeros DVD as this might add too the meat.

[milojthatch]

So it is true then, it includes the full version of "Saludos Amigos?" Nice.

We still must not forget our Facebook group. But Thank good I brought the latest Caballeros DVD as this might add too the meat.

Don't worry, it has not been forgotten! We seem to be growing still, even if it has been slow. Growth is growth! But this is great news!

[ajmrowland]

nice cover art, but I gotta say something: people've told me off for wasting space with posts, yet the same image pretty much gets reposted so there are four in a row?

Still, I'm really looking forward to this.

[blackcauldron85]

Walt & El Grupo and The Three Caballeros at LA's New Beverly Cinema August 8th
http://www.laughingplace.com/Latest-ID-75086.asp

[blackcauldron85]

Watch Walt & El Grupo Now through Amazon Video on Demand
http://www.laughingplace.com/Latest-ID-75315.asp

[akhenaten]

full version with goofy's cigarette intact or not????

[milojthatch]

full version with goofy's cigarette intact or not????

If it is the uncut version, then I'd have to say: Yes.

[Rudy Matt]

Watching it right now on the PS Network. Good stuff.

[zackisthewalrus]

DVD Review:

http://www.nt2099.com/J-ENT/news/blu-ra ... vd-review/

[geniuswalt]

Wow, the bonus features are rather short...

Definitely on my "wait for the price to drop" list

[Gabrielkat]

Since the version of Saludos Amigos on this DVD is said to be the original 1942 release, does that mean that it's unedited?