Tangled (formerly Rapunzel) Discussion - Part II

[Elladorine]

Removed the watermark and touched it up a little.



I think it looks better smaller like this, but you can see the full version if you click on it. Sorry I didn't work on the Pascal pic, but I haven't seen enough of his character design to really know how to rebuild his legs.

[Disney's Divinity]

The tower looks nice (if a bit like a Barbie set-piece) and Pascal is definitely a highlight. But Rapunzel is horrendously ugly--like a deformed Reese Witherspoon. Which isn't ugly, just...you know, deformed and horrendous. So, yes, pretty in that way. Still, not liking where these ultra-rainbowfied clips/merchandise are leading. I think I'll stick with the (deservedly and justifiably) free Barbie movies.

Which reminds me: wasn't Witherspoon playing Rapunzel at one point? Or have I got her mixed up with TB&TB/Brave?

[Polizzi]

Removed the watermark and touched it up a little.



I think it looks better smaller like this, but you can see the full version if you click on it. Sorry I didn't work on the Pascal pic, but I haven't seen enough of his character design to really know how to rebuild his legs.

That picture you have arranged is infinite times better than the original. No matter what size it comes, I love it. I love it very much. Infinite A+ for you.

[Polizzi]

This is my tribute to Enigmawing, who has removed the Disney FAN logo from the picture that Enigmawing arranged, to reveal the full picture.

[Atlantica]

Beautiful picture, really impressed with the look of her. She is 100% Glen Kene's baby !

And great job Enigmawing, your edit looks wonderful You are really, really talented !

But I'm not sure I understand Disney's logic .... rename the movie for 'mass-appeal' .... then have Barbie vomit all over the merchandise pictures to make them pink ??? Where is your sense Disney .....

And this may make me sound totally daft ... but does someone have the official announcement where Disney changed the films name ? I havnt actually seen it yet, and from all the trailers and confused merchandise boxes, seems as if this is, at the moment, the movie with no name !

[singerguy04]

And this may make me sound totally daft ... but does someone have the official announcement where Disney changed the films name ? I havnt actually seen it yet, and from all the trailers and confused merchandise boxes, seems as if this is, at the moment, the movie with no name !

You're not daft, there just hasn't really been an official announcement yet from WDAS. On their website and facebook they do refer to this film as Tangled though.... I suppose that would make it pretty official for the US at least. In other countries however the film seems to have completely different titles, ever retaining the original Rapunzel title.

This new image is great IMO. She looks beautiful and any doubts I had of her looking too odd being CG next to the other princesses is lessoned. Now all I need is an official trailer before I start letting myself form an official opinion about this film.

[Atlantica]

Ahhh, ok ! Thank you for clarifying ! Glad I wasnt being totally stupid about there being an official announcement.

[robster16]

that is one odd piece of publicity artwork. The face is completely deformed. The eyes are oddly shaped and placed completely wrong, the nose is really pointy and the teeth and mouth look a mess. I get the idea but overall I reaaaaally can't wait to see a movie still so we can see her completely on model and the way she's supposed to look

Nice tease and nice find though, makes me crave a definitive look at her even more then I already did

[Margos]

I love that promo pic! She's beautiful, really has that Glenn Keane-look! Definitiely painterly. Gotta say, it's interesting to see this clip art dripping with appeal to girls. Isn't that why they changed the title in the first place?

[polish_princess]

How exactly does one climb down one's own hair? o.0;

[Jack Skellington]

How exactly does one climb down one's own hair? o.0;

1.Grab scissors,
2.Tie your hair on a pole,
3. Jump off tower (holding on to scissors),
4. Cut hair

Warning: This might cause baldness.

[Candy-Bonita95]

How exactly does one climb down one's own hair? o.0;

1.Grab scissors,
2.Tie your hair on a pole,
3. Jump off tower (holding on to scissors),
4. Cut hair

Warning: This might cause baldness.

Or you can cut the hair first then tie it to a pole.



Ok,someone on the IMDB board is complaining about Tangled failing because of the changes to the story.If anyone has a IMDB account please tel him this

1.Who the hell said Rapunzel was an ass-kicking ninja?She's still that naive girl from the story.She's just tying up Flynn.Wouldn't you do the same thing if someone broke into your room?

2.Flynn is obnoxious and flirtatious because the story needs an example of a wordly person.

[singerguy04]

how about you paraphrase what the person on IMDB is saying so people know what you are talking about?

[jpanimation]

Well whatever kind of masculinity they thought they were giving this movie with the title "Tangled" is completely wasted when they continually release promotional images like this. I really wish they would just call it "Rapunzel" and quite fooling themselves into thinking that the title change is going to change anyones minds. For me, Tangled actually puts me off as I envision a Hoodwinked type of B movie when I hear that title. I'm not saying that it will be one but that the title leads you to think that way.

[Polizzi]

Well whatever kind of masculinity they thought they were giving this movie with the title "Tangled" is complexity wasted when they continually release promotional images like this. I really wish they would just call it "Rapunzel" and quite fooling themselves into thinking that the title change is going to change anyones minds. For me, Tangled actually puts me off as I envision a Hoodwinked type of B movie when I hear that title. I'm not saying that it will be one but that the title leads you to think that way.

I agree with you about sticking to the name, "Rapunzel." If they use the name, "Tangled," it WILL be a, "B," movie. If they use the name, "Rapunzel," it will be an, "A," movie, like Disney's, "Beauty and the Beast."

P.S. I have a message to those who suggested Rapunzel to do with her hair: What if there is a reason for Rapunzel to protect her hair? Like what if her hair is the last essence needed for Madame Gothel to cut off, cast it into her cauldron, and create a dangerous spell that will make her become invincible, and raise an army of the undead to destroy every corner of the kingdom to the ends of the earth? And Flynn Rider knew about the spell, tells it to Rapunzel, and decides to protect her from Madame Gothel's plans for world domination? That story that I have gave out to you and the rest of the Disney fans is NOT part of Disney's version of Rapunzel (unless if it is, then what do you know, then I am sued for good). The story that I have told you is based on my novella called, "Rapunzel and the Spell of Power (prepare to be tangled for adventure, magic, and love)." Please note: I did NOT use the characters from Disney's, "Rapunzel (Tangled)," I made up my own. Also, I have not yet published my novella yet, just sharing my version of, "Rapunzel," on WeBook.

[Candy-Bonita95]

how about you paraphrase what the person on IMDB is saying so people know what you are talking about?

Ok.I just thought people would notice the new topic there called "Why Tangled will inevitably fail." It has all those complaints about Tangled being rom-com and all.Here is what the op said

Let's be realistic. Beauty and the Beast and The Little Mermaid weren't just good movies because of the script. They were good movies because Disney captured the heart of the fairy-tales- its message. Let's take a look at Rapunzel--- I mean! *Tangled*. (gasps and looks around to see which interest group is offended now)

Rapunzel is not about a girl who waits in the tower for a dominant male figure to save her. Nor is it about a ninja. Rapunzel is basically about this shy, home-school girl who gets looked away in a tower when she's twelve, presumably because she's attracted male attention, by an obsessed foster-mother who even has the audacity to put magic into Rapunzel's hair so that it becomes the only entry way. Her mother, who was never pretty or loved, basically views Rapunzel as the vessel of herself when she was young so that, in loving Rapunzel and nurturing her like a caring mother, she can ultimately love and nurture her own fragile spirit. Then a worldly prince comes along, probably sick of his own parent's and country's rules and regulations, and sees Rapunzel. They meet and he begins to talk about the world outside, which has always fascinated her. They fall in love, when her mother barges in and sends the prince (presumably) to his grave. Rapunzel, having learned courage from the prince, now stands up to her mother for the first time in her life and tells her that she can't be caged off forever. Rapunzel finally leaves and years later meets up with the prince and they live happily ever after.

Now what part of this sounds like "Tangled"? First of all, you have a completely paradoxical "rebellious, liberated" female, who has no way of even knowing what it means to be "liberated." You have an obnoxious, sexist version of a man who gets by off his hormones and makes no attempt to even separate his image from Naveen's. Then you've got an action chase, "magical hair" that the witch wants, and Rapunzel is really a princess. Wow. No, that's definitely not an elaborate marketing scheme at all. *rolls eyes* And you've got a Chameleon (um, where'd that come from?), some crazy artist get-up (isn't it pretty infamous that Rapunzel was a musician and a singer?), and a bunch of other, I can only imagine, repulsive sidekicks. So with the total lack of heart, lack of any kind of real message, terrible characters, and lousy plot, why in the world do they think it's going to succeed? People are right; it IS like a rom-com. Rom-com's are not timeless. Shocker, I know. *sigh* Disney, you fail! Don't even touch The Snow Queen until you get heads on your long-lonely shoulders!

The problem is that we don't even have a full narrative of Tangled.

[polish_princess]

What I'm worried about is whether or not "Tangled" is going to capture the essence of the Rapunzel fairy tale or if they are just going to name her Rapunzel and do everything different. Even when they changed parts of Little Mermaid or BatB, the basic story was still there. Rapunzel should be about a girl, who was taken away from her parents by a witch when they broke a promise, and kept in a tower, until a prince came and found her.

[DisneyJedi]

What I'm worried about is whether or not "Tangled" is going to capture the essence of the Rapunzel fairy tale or if they are just going to name her Rapunzel and do everything different. Even when they changed parts of Little Mermaid or BatB, the basic story was still there. Rapunzel should be about a girl, who was taken away from her parents by a witch when they broke a promise, and kept in a tower, until a prince came and found her.

And what I'm worried about is whether or not this will turn out to be a financial success and not a "disappointment", considering its competition.

[Sotiris]

The trailer for "Tangled" was shown and is very similar to the one that was leaked online, but not exactly like it. There is a clear emphasis to try to play up the adventure for boys, and the name Tangled certainly does that.

http://blueskydisney.blogspot.com/2010/ ... tales.html

Disney's Tangled (once Rapunzel, renamed for boys) truly aims for 'em. Trailer has thief climbing tower, beaten up by her DocOck-like hair.

http://twitter.com/Breznican

[SWillie!]

RRRRROOOOOOOAAAARRRRRR Gimme that trailer NOW!!!

Hmmm. I hope there's no more pop music. This means we should be seeing it soon.