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[Prudence]

THIS BULLSHIT THREAD HURTS MY BISEXUAL ASPERGIAN FEELINGS. I'M GOING TO BOMB IT.

[Margos]

THIS BULLSHIT THREAD HURTS MY BISEXUAL ASPERGIAN FEELINGS. I'M GOING TO BOMB IT.

As a fellow bisexual Aspergian, Pru, I feel the need to ask: Why?

[Prudence]

THIS BULLSHIT THREAD HURTS MY BISEXUAL ASPERGIAN FEELINGS. I'M GOING TO BOMB IT.

As a fellow bisexual Aspergian, Pru, I feel the need to ask: Why?

IMPLICATIONS OF PREFERRING MINORITIES TO NOT BE THE MAJORITY IN ANY GATHERING.

[Siren]

I see no harm in this. Sheesh.

I am neither.

Speaking of observations, and to make a point how there is no harm in this thread....at my job, I take calls for many different magazines. After a year, I pretty much know what kind of people a majority of subscribers are. Not judging them, now and then, I get someone who is nothing like the usual, but for the most part, its the same kind of people over and over again.

For instace, WWE (World Wrestling Entertainment) Magazine. So many of the subscribers have down syndrome, autism, or some other form of mental handicap. And these are things these subscribers are TELLING me, not me assuming they are. Many are parents of children with mental handicap, who tell me how upset their child is when the magazine is late. I know some mental handicaps can cause them to become very upset when something changes or doesn't happen that normally does. They get their schedule. And when the magazine isn't there by the 15th like it normally is, they are upset and they themselves or their parents are calling me about it. And its amazing how total strangers volunteer so much of their lives to me. Many of the subscribers who have mental handicap are introverted, afraid of social settings, barely talk, etc. Especially with autism. And yet, anything WWE gets them to come out of their shells.

Now its not WWE itself, many mental handicaps cause obsessions. And mind you, its a healthy obsession. These obsessions cause them to open up when normally, they wouldn't. It could be WWE, Disney, horses, dogs, a certain actor, baseball, major world events, whatever they latch onto. It so happens out of all the magazines we have, 900+, WWE seems to be the one many latch onto. I am actually kinda surprised when I get an average person calling and neither has a handicap nor is subscribing their friend or kid to one.

Its not a judgement. Not a stereotype. Its just an observation that many young fans of WWE see it as a way to open up to the world. And they are better for it. I guess Disney is the same way for many. Let's not be PC about it and say a thread about non-gays and non-autistics is useless or bordering on offensive. Please. If I wanted to see UD become a forum like that, I'd invite Papi Bear back.

Prudence.....

[pap64]

I'm neither, though when I was born I got sick three months later, which affected my speech development, motor skills, physical growth and emotional development.

[Prudence]

I'm neither, though when I was born I got sick three months later, which affected my speech development, motor skills, physical growth and emotional development.

I plan on reproducing at some point(s) in my life. When the day(s) come(s), I am going to be one paranoid mother. Compulsively-quarantine-the-house level of paranoid. I don't think any offspring of mine could afford to get too sick too early in life.

[pap64]

I'm neither, though when I was born I got sick three months later, which affected my speech development, motor skills, physical growth and emotional development.

I plan on reproducing at some point(s) in my life. When the day(s) come(s), I am going to be one paranoid mother. Compulsively-quarantine-the-house level of paranoid. I don't think any offspring of mine could afford to get too sick too early in life.

In all honesty, getting sick was the thing that made turned my parents into stronger, more tolerant people while I became the guy that I am today.

This may sound insane, but nothing in life happens without a reason (this is my belief, at least). I've often wondered how I would have been like had I never gotten sick three months after birth. I may have been a better, healthier guy but my personality would have been different. In my treatment, I learned about personal growth, strength, humility, honesty and most importantly love. I may have been picked on at school for being a different type of boy, but in the end it was that difference that made me a better person.

As for your kids, let's be honest for a second. You can try to shield them from the whole world and they STILL wouldn't be safe. And frankly, why would you want to shield them? Yes, there is some horrible stuff out there and its good to be safe, but being a paranoid mother will not help them. It will just backfire on you when your kids later on tell you how you overprotected them and never let them have any friends.

Just use your maternal instinct, protect them when they need to be protected and enjoy your children.

[Siren]

When my daughter was a baby, I took her out in the world. I'd take nature walks, pushing her stroller through the woods. We'd stop at some point and I'd lay out a blanket and sit down, feed her, have some lunch. I let her play in the mud.

She has never had a serious illness. She has no allergies. She is not afraid of the outside world.

While one of her friends, its a different story. They've been friends since daycare. Playdates were only allowed over her friend's house, because her mother was afraid of my dogs and cats. They might hurt her daughter. Her friends house was immaculate, all white.....frankly, you wouldn't know a kid was living there. No pets. Etc. When I did have a birthday party for my daughter and her friend came, her mother was a freak about the fact I let the kids fingerpaint. It was so "dirty" to her.

Her child is constantly ill. Has every allergy to speak of.

My own sister, she is not a nature lover. She didn't expose her kids to nature. She didn't have pets. Etc. Her daughters, especially the first one who she was even more protective of, have asthma and allergies.

I think of all the dogs and cats who get dumped when someone has a baby too, when those animals would actually help the baby NOT get sick. Even if you don't take your baby out, dogs and cats bring pollen and other outside things inside on their coats, exposing us to them, early exposure to these things can help curb allergic or serious reactions later in life.

I think when we see the rise in illnesses and allergies we need to look at how our culture has changed. 20 years ago, you didn't see this going on. Not to such a high degree. 20 years ago, technology was not where it is now. Technology is keeping people inside. Give your kid a Leapster instead of a swing set and sandbox sort of thing. We as a culture was germaphobic. All this heavy talk about frequent hand washing, hand sanitizers, H1N1, swine flu, etc. Maybe if people got out in the world more, got back to nature, we wouldn't be having these problems. Take a nature walk once a week. Go horseback riding. Kayaking or canoeing. Expose yourself to the outdoors, its the healthiest thing you can do for yourself.

[Prudence]

Maybe if people got out in the world more, got back to nature, we wouldn't be having these problems. Take a nature walk once a week. Go horseback riding. Kayaking or canoeing. Expose yourself to the outdoors, its the healthiest thing you can do for yourself.

I expose myself to the outdoors on a daily basis. Thing of it is, I don't care about myself. I know I come across as a narcissistic nincompoop, but I truly do not care about how sick I could possibly get unless sickness interferes with work and my means of supporting myself. I just don't want to burden the world, though I'm selfish enough to want to live in it. I've frequently been out-of-doors for my entire life, and yet I have poor health. My family had dogs and cats, I took horseback riding lessons as a small child and won some ribbons while I was at it, I camped out more than most of my friends, I am a triathlete and marathon runner, etc.

I'm still a sickly girl, but it's not allergies and asthma that get to me. I only have one allergy -- bee stings -- and I don't have asthma yet. I'm at a risk for developing asthma. I remember jumping on my grandparents' trampoline when I was in elementary school, stepping on a bee in the process. Bee stings get me bedridden for hours; I have never met anyone as allergic to those buggers as I am. Experience told me that I was allergic, but I jumped on the trampoline anyway and suffered the consequences because a bee happened to start its death dance while I and my cousins were jumping.

My grandfather's reaction was to burn the trampoline. Burn it. And curse at it for hurting his granddaughter, although the trampoline itself was not what hurt me, I had no problem with taking the blame myself, and I and the other kids in my family still wanted to use the trampoline. My cousins probably still hold a little grudge against me for that incident.

So, yes, I do see the problem with extremes, but I know myself and my genetics, and I know I will push myself to the limits in trying to keep my future offspring as healthy as possible. That doesn't mean I'll burn trampolines. It means I'll clean trampolines and allow my children to jump on them whilst wearing shoes.

It's also of note that not every outdoorsy person is healthy. I'm in shape, but I'm not healthy, mainly because I was born with a terrible immune system and heightened physical sensitivity. Nothing in the world is going to change that.

[Siren]

My post was about people who's children have no health issues and they CREATE health issues by not exposing them early on to the world. Being born with a immune deficiency is not something that the outdoors can help. My point is how parents take a kid who is born healthy and make them sick because they kept them locked away through their most important years.

An allergy to bee stings are not something that can be stopped either. We are born with that. Some people overcome it as they grow older naturally, others don't. I'm allergic to bee stings too. I nearly died when I got stung in the neck as a child. To this day, I tend to freeze when a bee is around me, let it pass and then continue walking, trying to do nothing to entice it to sting.

[Lazario]

I see no harm in this. Sheesh.

It's still an asanine thread. And after chat night on Saturday, I know I'm not the only one who thinks so.

[Siren]

I know I'm not the only one who thinks so.

And the rest of us should care because.......

[pap64]

I don't see what's so bad about this thread either...

[Margos]

Agreed. Someone asks a question out of simple curiousity, that doesn't mean there's some malicious intent behind it. There's nothing at all wrong with it.

[Lazario]

Agreed. Someone asks a question out of simple curiousity

It was a stupid question regardless of intent and the mere existence of this thread and the fact that people are defending it is irritating. And I personally object to anything stupid. No offense intended to the original poster. Nor, apart from the sniping back from Siren, to anyone else here.

I know I'm not the only one who thinks so.

And the rest of us should care because...

Good one, I'm shur. I'll tell you why - it's because while I may not speak for everyone here... you don't either.

[PeterPanfan]

While one of her friends, its a different story. They've been friends since daycare. Playdates were only allowed over her friend's house, because her mother was afraid of my dogs and cats. They might hurt her daughter. Her friends house was immaculate, all white.....frankly, you wouldn't know a kid was living there. No pets. Etc. When I did have a birthday party for my daughter and her friend came, her mother was a freak about the fact I let the kids fingerpaint. It was so "dirty" to her.

Her child is constantly ill. Has every allergy to speak of.

Was her daughter ill at birth? Because if that was the case, I would totally understand...

[Siren]

While one of her friends, its a different story. They've been friends since daycare. Playdates were only allowed over her friend's house, because her mother was afraid of my dogs and cats. They might hurt her daughter. Her friends house was immaculate, all white.....frankly, you wouldn't know a kid was living there. No pets. Etc. When I did have a birthday party for my daughter and her friend came, her mother was a freak about the fact I let the kids fingerpaint. It was so "dirty" to her.

Her child is constantly ill. Has every allergy to speak of.

Was her daughter ill at birth? Because if that was the case, I would totally understand...

No, she was a normal birth, healthy baby. She isn't suffering and dying, but any little cold, she gets it. Allergies, she's got them. Especially those relating to the outdoors, grass and pollen. Like I said, early exposure. Besides, you are far more likely to get ill from putting your hands on a shopping cart than taking a walk in the woods.

[ajmrowland]

10.


And while this question may not get us any particular advancements, I'd just like to observe the similarities between people who are avid Disney fans.

[littlefuzzy]

Agreed. Someone asks a question out of simple curiousity

It was a stupid question regardless of intent and the mere existence of this thread and the fact that people are defending it is irritating. And I personally object to anything stupid. No offense intended to the original poster. Nor, apart from the sniping back from Siren, to anyone else

Why is this thread any more stupid than the threads asking if you ARE gay, or DO have Autism/Asperger's Syndrome, etc...? - Not that I'm saying those are stupid questions either...

It's not like someone is saying they are homophobic or hate gays etc., by saying that they aren't gay.

For the record, the threads I think are stupid are all in the Polls & Games forum...

[Lazario]

Why is this thread any more stupid than the threads asking if you ARE gay, or DO have Autism/Asperger's Syndrome, etc...? - Not that I'm saying those are stupid questions either...

Understood.

I think the success of the Gay thread (its' begetting multiple volumes) speaks for itself. Or the fact that it's inspired members on here who were not even totally out yet to come out despite the at least 4 members of this board who have made sure to say they think homosexuality is a sin and wrong and etc. And that's what's uncool, ajmrowland.

As for the Syndrome threads... I haven't learned much from them. But they sure are a wake-up call! To the fact that so many people are so sick or disabled or whatever they would call it. It's a hardship if nothing else. So I recognize that so many people are dealing with this kind of thing where I wouldn't know in my daily life because I work and can't go on vacations and that kind of thing. And no one talks about it openly on the horror message boards. Were it not for UD - I wouldn't know.

The biggest problem is the damn set-up. No one can pretend that that isn't flawed. "Who here isn't?" That's plain stupid. Whether they meant it to be or not. And it's very much exactly in the vein of the miserably failed, Who Here Is Straight? Just like I said months ago.

It's not like someone is saying they are homophobic or hate gays etc., by saying that they aren't gay.

For the record, the threads I think are stupid are all in the Polls & Games forum...

If they weren't before - they are now. If I have anything to say about it.

But then, no rocket science involved.