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1. Its carries the correct name of the title. Thus we are sitting with wrong name of one shorts at least Just Mickey/Fiddling Around as that errors happended when wrong name was used when reissued. (can name more example from Warner Bros if you like in comparison)



the comparison would actually be nice. to see the difference. i ave to read those threads you mentioned. the only one i had seen before was the banf concert thread which i also saw in d23 website
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Yes Im on GAC but under different user name.
Interesting story (of those titles) isn't it?

But to make it absolutely clear. I don't want to re-buy those sets on Blu-ray if they make no effort to correct those errors, that I pointed out already. But they will be asked to re-release those animated sets on Blu-ray if/when they move the line on Blu-ray. But I doesn't mean that new-released will stop they might after wave 9 be more open minded for more disc per sets so it might take fewer releases to re-release those materials (with the corrections, and more careful approach taken 8), the early waves are little bit rushed everyone can see that )

With that said I want much as anyone see another animated sets with the still unreleased material, and I rather would want them to finish the theatrical business before they move over to the TV compilation shows.

But I would also recommend this blog, by David Gerstein:
http://ramapithblog.blogspot.com/ (Scroll down)
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I doubt there will be any blu-rays of Walt Disney archival material for years to come - - the rights holders haven't even started issuing high-profile Walt Disney movies like "Mary Poppins" and "Swiss Family Robinson" on blu yet. Shorts and TV programs are way, way down the road.... many years.

The best hope for more Walt Disney Treasures is DVD now.
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Some Walt era material are already on Blu-ray for example Snow White. So ruling out Walt era material forever on Blu-ray is foolish but I can agree it could take time as those blu-ray picture quality is more fancy than standard DVD so when it comes to restoring for Blu-ray quality it take along time to get things wright (see Dumbo) and might force them to revisit everything anyway (including the errors; I mentioned way too many times).
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Back on topic, I posted the following at a couple of other Disney fan sites to help spread the news:

>>Posters at another site are citing Leonard Maltin and Walt Disney Home Entertainment Consumer Relations people as saying the changes at the Studio have led to the demise of the Walt Disney Treasures DVDs and no releases are planned for this year.

Read this long thread for more:

UltimateDisney.com / DVDizzy.com Forum :: View topic - I think we may need to save the Treasures series

As the baby boomers fade away into the sunset, this may be a last window of opportunity to get the rest of Walt's library out to the public before it is completely forgotten by the rights holders.

Besides - - only a few weeks ago at the stockholder's meeting - - didn't Iger cite the "annual collector's sets" as proof that they were servicing the library when asked by a shareholder to release more of the older films on DVD?

Perhaps they need to be reminded how much Walt Disney enthusiasts care about this line, and that there are many viable titles still to be released, such as:

1. Song of the South (plus The Joel Chandler Harris Story, Trailers, promos, TV spots, Soundtrack, outtakes, artwork, etc.)
2. Ludwig Von Drake (18 episodes of Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color)
3. Ranger Woodlore and Humphrey Bear (all shorts plus 4 hour WWoC shows)
4. Jiminy Cricket (all educational shorts, MMC shorts, plus all 6 Jiminy hosted hour shows)
5. Chip an' Dale (all shorts, plus Walt Disney Presents hour show)
6. The Magic Mirror (all 6 TV hours hosted by Magic Mirror, including Walt's first two TV specials)
7. Disneyland Volume 3 (all remaining TV hours about the park including From the Pirates of the Caribbean to the World of Tomorrow and Disneyland Showtime!)
8. Mickey, Donald and Goofy on TV (TV hours featuring all the standard characters in original animation bridges)
9. Rarities 2 (with remaining animated shorts and featurettes like It's Tough to Be a Bird)
10. The Swamp Fox (all 8 episodes)
11. The Prince and the Pauper (all 3 Wonderful World of Color episodes plus the theatrical version)
12. Disneyland: Films From Park Attractions (America the Beautiful, Mouseketeer 3-D Jamboree, Story of Oil etc)
13. Annette 2 (Horsemasters, Escapade in Florence, music sequences)
14. Kurt Russell (TV movies and featurettes like Willie and the Yank, Secret of Boyne Castle, Disneyland Showtime and Dad, Can I Borrow the Car?)
15. Best of Disneyland Series Season Sets
16. Best of Walt Disney Presents Series Season Sets
17. Best of Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color Season Sets
18. Best of The Mickey Mouse Club
19. Moochie (Moochie of the Little League, Moochie of Pop Warner Football, Mooncussers, Johnny Shiloh)
20. Spin and Marty 2 and 3
21. The Hardy Boys 2
22. Corky and White Shadow
23. People and Places
24. The Fabulous 40's (uncut versions of all the 1940's animated package features)
25. Animal Stories (best of the TV hours like Sammy, the Way Out Seal)
26. The Mouse Factory - Complete Series
27. Disney Family Album - Complete Series
28. A Walt Disney Christmas
29. A Walt Disney Halloween

(And that doesn't even account for all the lesser known TV limited series and TV movies like Elfego Baca, Texas John Slaughter, Kilroy, Gallegher, et al).

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Jerry Beck THE animation historian is on Stu Show tonight. I wonder if he will talk about Disney, but I think it is unlikely he is more bound to talk about Looney Tunes. http://www.shokusradio.com/
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merlinjones wrote:I doubt there will be any blu-rays of Walt Disney archival material for years to come - - the rights holders haven't even started issuing high-profile Walt Disney movies like "Mary Poppins" and "Swiss Family Robinson" on blu yet. Shorts and TV programs are way, way down the road.... many years.

The best hope for more Walt Disney Treasures is DVD now.
Agreed.
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Passing of Roy O. Disney and sacking of John Cook means that there no Treasures series are planed for 2010 far as Jerry Beck knows. Thus it must confirm what Leonard Maltin have said too users on here in Emails.

Treasures are DEAD as far as 2010 goes.
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Heil Donald Duck wrote:Passing of Roy O. Disney and sacking of John Cook means that there no Treasures series are planed for 2010 far as Jerry Beck knows. Thus it must confirm what Leonard Maltin have said too users on here in Emails.
I think you mean...Roy E. Disney...Roy O. Disney was Roy E's Father

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Dick Cook (not John) - - Dick did a lot of good for Walt's legacy.
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The fact is that with the line seams to be dead, besides for my inability to get names right.
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Without Walt Disney Treasures or DMC exclusives - - and with "Dumbo" and "Alice" delayed on Blu-Ray -- are there any Walt Disney library films of any kind planned for the rest of the year ("Fantasia")?
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merlinjones wrote:Guess they don't want our money.

They want our money.....they just want to sell us something that cost less for them to make and easier to sell to anyone...



.though maybe....I just thought of this idea....could the Treausures possibly live on.....through the D23 Club :ears: :idea:
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"Que sera sera" as Doris Day said - - guess it's time for other interests.
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Well, the series' demise doesn't really surprise, since they've pretty much done all the Disney characters' serieses as far as I'm concerned. So don't argue about what they have left to do. It's over as far as I'm concerned. Besides, I have all the shorts on there now.
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They've only scratched the surface with regards to releasing classic Walt-era material.

The vast majority of Disneyland/Walt Disney Presents/Wonderful World Of Color/Wonderful World Of Disney episodes have not been released. Every category of programs that was found in the show is woefully incomplete on home video, ranging from the animation episodes and everything else Merlin mentioned, including all of the animal-related episodes (many produced by Roy E. Disney), to name just a few categories. Obviously, the Smamp Fox/Elfego Baca series are incomplete, and there are other series they have yet to begin.

And only a fraction of the classic episodes and featurettes about Disneyland have been released, and NONE about Walt Disney World.

Several short subjects are unavailable as well, as is the vast majority of Mickey Mouse Club episodes.

There are even several actual theatrical FEATURES from the Walt-era yet to see the light of day on DVD.

I think this is a travesty that the great works of Walt Disney are being neglected and maginalized by the company that bears his name.

Back when Disney Channel still showed Vault Disney, all these programs were fresh on the minds of those who watched them on the channel, which created a built-in audience for those early waves of Treasures.

Now, with no more tv support for the Walt-era (except the occasional airing of a classic live-action theatrical release on TCM and Hallmark channel), the classic Walt-era is not on the minds of the fickle general public who tend to be most interested in what's right in front of them.

Yet, the true hard-core Walt fans, who passionately care about this material, continued to buy the Treasures as exemplified by the sell-outs of the most recent waves.

If the company truly cared about Walt's legacy, they could continue with the Treasures releases with the similar print runs they've been having, and they'll sell those out to the hard core fans that have been buying them.

Then, if Vault Disney programming ever returns to the Disney Channel, the demand for the Treasures will get an immediate spike due to all the new fans discovering this material for the first time, as well as the return of more casual fans from the past who will be reminded of the material's existence by seeing it again on TV. They could therefore then go back to the larger print runs of the earlier waves, and the sets could even be advertised during the Vault Disney block.

If anything, Roy's tragic passing should inspire them to re-launch the Walt Disney Treasures line with reinvigorated passion, to honor both Walt AND his nephew Roy, who did so much to keep his Uncle and Father's legacy alive.

But instead, they have to go and cancel Roy's Treasures series less than one year after his death.

IMO, this is an unconscionable travesty! :(

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Maybe we should write Diane Disney Miller (Walts Daugher) for insight and comment. Maybe if the company itself isnt interested in releasing this material ....her organization will lease the rights to this type of material and make it available to the public. (???????)

I guess if we wait long enough Disney will just put their entire library online available for Download on Demand. That is the wave of the future and Im afraid until it gets here we are just going to have to do without.

RIP WDT Series.......So close to making it a decade.......its very very sad.... :(
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Heil Donald Duck wrote:Passing of Roy O. Disney and sacking of John Cook means that there no Treasures series are planed for 2010 far as Jerry Beck knows. Thus it must confirm what Leonard Maltin have said too users on here in Emails.

Treasures are DEAD as far as 2010 goes.
I wouldn't trust Mr. Beck. He's extremely negative most of the time anyway.

So, Heil Donald, Let's not give in to that and just continue to believe that the WDT line is not dead and stick to what we believed previously.
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WDWLocal wrote:
Heil Donald Duck wrote:Passing of Roy E. Disney and sacking of Dick Cook means that there no Treasures series are planed for 2010 far as Jerry Beck knows. Thus it must confirm what Leonard Maltin have said too users on here in Emails.

Treasures are DEAD as far as 2010 goes.
I wouldn't trust Mr. Beck. He's extremely negative most of the time anyway.

So, Heil Donald, Let's not give in to that and just continue to believe that the WDT line is not dead and stick to what we believed previously.
Hum, if any insider of animation industry can be trusted that person is Jerry Beck. But far as I know he is good friend of Leonard Maltin so he might be getting his information on the WDT line form him so he might be just be repeating what Leonard Maltin have said to other users on here in emails (and that was my point in my last post). Buts thats leaves the question how close is Maltin to the decision makers of the series as far as I know that is anyone is guess. If he (Maltin) had ultimate control over things I guss that he wouldn't have been repeating no more Treasures matra those past few years.
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Even if nothing is probably going to happen this year it doesn't mean that series will be dead in 2011, 2012, 2013, etc.
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