What non-classics would you make classics?

[Disney Duster]

I think that only Disney films which are animated and feel like actual classics, are widely considered by audiences, critics, and historians to be classics, or rather, what Walt would probably think of as a classic, should be included. For the most part I think then only Dinosaur, Chicken Little, and Home on the Range wouldn't be included, as well as the package features.

I wish Walt Disney really knew the list was going to be called Disney Animated Classics, maybe he would not have had the compilation features/package features in there.

Maybe Ichabod and Mr. Toad is okay. Alright, they can stay. And are Melody Time and Make Mine Music more like Fantasia or package features?

I might have agreed with the CGI films not being part of the list if it weren't for Rapunzel/Tangled coming up. That may be CGI but it's being made to look like the hand-painted classics on the rest of the list. We shall see if it's a classic in look and in feel.

Since what is and isn't a classic and what Walt may have wanted may be too difficult to determine, then maybe just the out of house films and package films wouldn't get included.

I also wish they could drop films that tried to be really un-Disney from the list. Maybe you think that's hard to determine, but the people making those particular films knew what they were doing, trying to be like Warner Brothers or Dreamworks or Pixar...

[ajmrowland]

Im not sure I'd make Bolt or Meet the Robinsons classic(though they are good).

Oliver & Co.

[jpanimation]

Orville was a funny character, but Wilbur is a loud, over-the-top obnoxious character. And could they even "up" the fun factor from the original? How much funnier can it get, than having Madam Medusa and Snoops in the original film?

I never really found Orville funny but enjoyed Wilbur (as obnoxious as he may be). Once again, I never really found Madam Medusa and Snoops that funny. Doesn't matter as I don't really attribute fun-factor to "funny" as much as I do to "level of enjoyment." We can argue the quality of a film all day, as quality is quality, but not the enjoyment level. That is unique to each and every person and we obviously have differing enjoyment levels on these two films.

Don't you think the original film had a memorable score? Have you not heard 'The journey', 'Tomorrow's another day' and 'Someone's waiting for you', which received an Oscar nomination for Best Song?

Well, I don't really count songs as part of the score and I even think they have separate categories at the Oscars. I personally don't enjoy the songs that much (not that they're bad but a little too 70's for me), and I couldn't hum a tune from the score if my life depended on it.

What's there in the sequel worth remembering?

I don't know but I watched the Rescuers and The Rescuers Down Under about the same amount as a kid and long after we sold the VHS tapes, couldn't remember a single thing from the original but a lot from the sequel. I recently watched The Resuers online for the first time in years and it was like viewing a new movie, I didn't know what was going to happen next.

Maybe next we should nominate which movies shouldn't be DACs. That would drop almost half of them

Saludos Amigos, The Three Caballeros and Dinosaur, and all the CGI-films should be dropped.

I agree with those nominations

I lump Home on the Range with the CGI-films (all the same poor quality). The only other Walt-era DAC I don't like is The Sword in the Stone. There is a hand-full of 70's and 80's DACs that I just don't like that much and should probably be nominated too.

[drnilescrane]

the reason why i dont think Ducktales or goofy movie should be a part of the classics line is that they were not animated by the walt disney features animators. The were animated by the walt disney televison animtion department.

A Goofy Movie was a production of Walt Disney Feature Animation's French studio. It's not a television production.

[DisneyFan09]

*waits for Goliath to come and burst all the balloons*

Call me stupid, but what do you mean by saying that?

[jpanimation]

*waits for Goliath to come and burst all the balloons*

Call me stupid, but what do you mean by saying that?

Well, Goliath is a stark defender of The Resuers and champions it as probably the most underrated of the DACs. His arguments are very persuasive and passionate. He actually defended it just a couple of posts below that comment, in case you missed it.

As of those against A Nightmare Before Christmas nomination into the DAC line, why? Its basically a DAC as it is, just initially disowned by Disney for its subject matter. That doesn't stop the fact that it is the brainchild of a Disney animator (Tim Burton), produced by a Disney producer (Don Hahn), story-boarded at Disney Feature Animation (even included in my art of Disney book) and has some 2D from Disney Feature Animation layered over the stopmo. Disney has reclaimed it under the Disney moniker with its recent rise in popularity and I guarantee you if it was this popular when it came out it would've been a DAC.

[toonaspie]

Saludos Amigos, The Three Caballeros and Dinosaur, and all the CGI-films should be dropped.

I agree with those nominations

I lump Home on the Range with the CGI-films (all the same poor quality). The only other Walt-era DAC I don't like is The Sword in the Stone. There is a hand-full of 70's and 80's DACs that I just don't like that much and should probably be nominated too.

Well I dunno if it would be fair to dump films like Home on the Range and The Sword in the Stone just because they werent very good. I think it should be criteria-based and I think that criteria should be limited to full-length animated features...NOT featurette package films and not CGI films. They should all be 2D and they should all tell one flowing story for over and hr long.

Granted I hate the fact that Home on the Range was even made. If Disney was in a rush to dump 2D animation why did they even bother? They could've used the extra 6 months to work on the story problems with Brother Bear and close out on a decent note.

Getting back on topic: here are my nominations for 2D animated classics.

Lion King 2

Bambi 2

Lion King 1 1/2 (Dont laugh at this idea. The fact of the matter is, it was a well done parody and that gave Timon & Pumbaa lots of character development that was not given to them in the original film)

Mulan 2 (although it couldve been better story wise I enjoyed it and it had alot of good character development)

DuckTales the Movie: Treasures of the Lost Lamp (despite the fact that the story is 95% similar to Aladdin)

[yamiiguy]

What's with all the prejudice with CGI? The medium itself is great if done well like MtR and Pixar movies, Chicken Little was terrible though...

[tlc38tlc38]

I honestly don't know why everyone is always dumping on Home on the Range and Chicken Little, I actually liked them both.

I think the 2 most underrated Disney classics are Brother Bear and Hercules. They really don't get the credit they deserve. I would probably also throw The Rescuers and Robin Hood in that category too.

[KennethE]

I too am riding in the "Rescuers Down Under" fanboat.

You must all remember that at the time it was made, 1990, Disney animated films did not contain that kind of rugged, Spielbergian action, as the advent of computer graphics were available, but not yet convenient to use. This fact alone makes this cartoon distinctive.

A few of you did not like Jake. I am offended! I thought he was the best character there! And his presence was very necessary to Bernard and Bianka's relationship (ie, it made Bernard more determined to be with her).

Also adding to the list I would put:
James and the Giant Peach
A Goofy Movie

[kbehm29]

My additions to DAC would be:

Enchanted
TNBC
Tinker Bell

Also, I really liked The Sword and the Stone and Home on the Range! The latter it took me several viewings to really appreciate it for what it is. The yodeling segment is a huge throwback, IMO, to The Many Adventures of Winnie-the-Pooh and what was the other one that had a weird segment like that - Dumbo or Pinocchio or Alice in Wonderland? Ugh - I'm pregnant and my memory fails me!

[jpanimation]

I personally always felt that The Resuers and The Great Mouse Detective lent themselves very well to the idea of sequels or spin-off TV series.

[Sotiris]

I personally always felt that The Resuers and The Great Mouse Detective lent themselves very well to the idea of sequels or spin-off TV series.

Funny you should mention that 'cause I remember reading that a Great Mouse Detective animated TV series was in the works but ultimately got scrapped.

[Heil Donald Duck]

Now Im going too be mean:
Scrap every film as Classics post The Jungle Book.

[Goliath]

I lump Home on the Range with the CGI-films (all the same poor quality). The only other Walt-era DAC I don't like is The Sword in the Stone. There is a hand-full of 70's and 80's DACs that I just don't like that much and should probably be nominated too.

I also hate Home on the Range with passion because of the low quality. But personal taste is really no way to determine which film should be considered 'Classic'. I would drop Saludos and Caballeros because there's too much live-action in it, and the former is way too short to be considered a full-lenght movie. Dinosaur uses real backgrounds and therefore isn't "animated". Besides, the title was only recently added to make Rapunzel the 50th Classic. (Marketing, you know.)

I like the 1970's and 1980's movies. I think all the talk about a 'Dark Age' is mostly just fans parrotting each other. The Rescuers is one of my favorite films.

I personally always felt that The Resuers and The Great Mouse Detective lent themselves very well to the idea of sequels or spin-off TV series.

Thank God that didn't happen! TGMD has actually become popular in French, Danish and, primarily, Dutch Disney comics. Published in widely read comic magazines, Basil and Dawson would go on new adventures, sometimes including Ratigan as the villain. (Somehow he maganed to survive his fall at the end of the film?)

[Giygas]

Besides, the title was only recently added to make Rapunzel the 50th Classic.

I thought that it had always been there, as it was animated by their feature animation department.

[DisneyFan09]

Granted I hate the fact that Home on the Range was even made. If Disney was in a rush to dump 2D animation why did they even bother? They could've used the extra 6 months to work on the story problems with Brother Bear and close out on a decent note.

Use rather your energy to despise the fact that "Hannah Montana The Movie" was ever made. That was Disney's biggest mistake ever.

"Home on the Range" wasn't that bad, in my opinion. Of course it's not a classic, but I personally found the movie watchable and entertaining. But I do agree that "Brother Bear" had a lot of story problems.

Lion King 1 1/2 (Dont laugh at this idea. The fact of the matter is, it was a well done parody and that gave Timon & Pumbaa lots of character development that was not given to them in the original film)

I'm not laughing at this idea at all. I love the third "Lion King" movie, it's very funny and entertaining. It's very underrated.

[zackiellovedisney]

There are quite a few I would probably add to the list.

Nightmare Before Christmas (This one needs to be a classic. I am in middle school and all the kids hate Disney. But they all unanimously said Nightmare Before Christmas is the best thing to come out of Disney. It is one of my favorite movies. Some people say it shouldn't be included because it is stop motion so what. That is like saying African American's cant hang out with whites. Why can't stop motion hang out with traditionally animated.)


All the live action animated mixed movies,(Maybe just Enchanted and Who Framed Roger Rabbit should be here but you might as well include the other ones.)

Lion King 2(The best sequel to ever come from direct to video. I like the animation the music the characters. It is better than some classics we have right know