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BackgroundActorman1976 wrote:
Will Barks wrote:I'd be for more graphic sexuality in Disney films.
As a Freud disciple, I see no reason why this shouldn't be so. :)
Yeah cause kids arent allready over exposed to garbage like that on tv and in movies enough allready!.
seriously man disney animated films are primarily family and childrens entertainment, for someone to suggest that disney place graphic sexuality in their films is just disqusting! Its obvious you must not have any children or else you would see what is so wrong with post.

and if it was a joke, then youve got a messed up sense of humor and the joke fails misreably although i suspect you arent jokeing
Relax! First, why is it disgusting to mention sexual references in animation? Never seen a Bakshi flick? And if you think children are sexually innocent, you're plain wrong (though I never said such a Disney film has to be shown to children).

Second, Disney movies burst of sexuality right now because every human's work of art is produced by one's compensation of his/her often subconscious sexuality. Sexuality becomes more subtle by not showing it directly and it appeals to people too who cannot deal with it consciously. The main message of practically every Disney film is love. Love without sexuality involved is impossible. Oppressing those sexual urges causes neurosis.

But then again, I'm from Europe. We may look at things a little different. :wink:

For further reading, I recommend you this article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosexual_development
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Will Barks wrote:
BackgroundActorman1976 wrote: Yeah cause kids arent allready over exposed to garbage like that on tv and in movies enough allready!.
seriously man disney animated films are primarily family and childrens entertainment, for someone to suggest that disney place graphic sexuality in their films is just disqusting! Its obvious you must not have any children or else you would see what is so wrong with post.

and if it was a joke, then youve got a messed up sense of humor and the joke fails misreably although i suspect you arent jokeing
Relax! First, why is it disgusting to mention sexual references in animation? Never seen a Bakshi flick? And if you think children are sexually innocent, you're plain wrong (though I never said such a Disney film has to be shown to children).

Second, Disney movies burst of sexuality right now because every human's work of art is produced by one's compensation of his/her often subconscious sexuality. Sexuality becomes more subtle by not showing it directly and it appeals to people too who cannot deal with it consciously. The main message of practically every Disney film is love. Love without sexuality involved is impossible. Oppressing those sexual urges causes neurosis.

But then again, I'm from Europe. We may look at things a little different. :wink:

For further reading, I recommend you this article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosexual_development
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BackgroundActorman1976 wrote:please dont respond to me ever again!
As you wish. :)
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RRRRAAAWWWWWWWWWWRRRRRRRRRRRRRR DON'T RESPOND TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Seriously. Why are you on a forum if the second someone says something that's not rainbows and butterflies to you, you freak out and never want to talk to them again. This is the internet, buddy. I certainly understand your point of view regarding the issue, but to just refuse to have any intelligent conversation about it with anyone is what is turning everyone away from you right now. If you believe that Disney should not be making sexually explicit films (something that I very much agree with) then stick to your guns and prove yourself right! No one is going to take you seriously by just going "don't ever ever respond to me again" to everyone.
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I think Walt Disney Animation Studios should create cut-out silhouette film showing Walt Disney having an affair with Paris Hilton. That'd make Lotte Reiniger proud.
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This thread probably has Walt Disney giggling like a school girl.

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Being a pianist, I'd definitely love to see Disney create an original story about a musician and how he changes the world with his music. Sounds cliché, but in the right hands, it just might work. The protagonist could either be a pianist or a violinist. And yes, he must be a human being.

I'm wondering how far Disney would go with the details in animating the fingers while playing the piano. I've seen a lot of animes involving such scenes and I was unimpressed. The downside would be the lack of original music as I prefer classical compositions. :P Chopin, anyone?

Another thing that comes to mind is an animated horror movie. Any Edgar Allan Poe tale would be interesting. Something that'll be "too scary for children." :lol:
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I'm sorry to be rude here but I will be honest with you: all of those ideas on paper sound like very bad ideas...I mean from a Disney point of view. :lol:

I think we all need to face the fact that Disney was, is, and will remain a family-entertainment company. So doing any adult stuff would go against the label and why it makes money. They may push the envelope a bit with stuff like they did in The Hunchback of Notre Dame. But I think that should be the limit as to how far Disney should go.

Thats why adult films go on their other labels like Touchstone.

On the other hand, it would be interesting to see animators from the Disney studio do some adult animation projects but I dont want them to be under the Disney label. Bad idea to me.

I can see however see Disney taking a cue from dark animation done from their rivals Don Bluth and the 2D animated films done by Dreamworks, preferably the latter because I thought those films were well done without pushing it to the point of disturbing children.
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Disney Duster wrote:DisneyFan09, those concepts are not necessarily un-Disney. Remember Noah's Ark in Fantasia 2000? Walt Disney had religious themes in his films, he just never mentioned "religion". Like how in Fantasia they sing Ave Maria, and he was going to have stained-glass church windows, but went for the less religious people with candles. :)

And characters who are gay or have medical problems or are hip hoppers could all be the main characters of Disney films, as long as they do it the Disney way (no sex, no foulness, done in a classy way that children and adults can enjoy together, usually some element of fantasy, high quality, etc.)
Well, the reason that I referred those themes as un-Disney themes, is that you've never seen them in a Disney film or doesn't associate them with Disney. Although Disney has used religious themes in their flicks, we've never seen a pure Bible re-telling from Disney, equal to Dreamworks' "The Prince of Egypt". Could you imagine Disney doing a story about Jesus and being faithful to the original story? Or Moses? Or Adam and Eve?

When it comes to those other themes; Hip-hop isn't something that is associated with Disney. But you're right, if they were ever going to make a hip-hop flick, they would probably do it in a Disney way (with no swearing, haha). I've never seen a autistic main character in a Disney film and neither a homosexual/lesbian one (although I think that it won't be the first concept that Disney would try at first).

Let me remind that "Hunchback" was the Disney film who really took risks with including controversial themes in the movie - even for a G-rated Disney flick.
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toonaspie wrote: think we all need to face the fact that Disney was, is, and will remain a family-entertainment company. So doing any adult stuff would go against the label and why it makes money. They may push the envelope a bit with stuff like they did in The Hunchback of Notre Dame. But I think that should be the limit as to how far Disney should go.
You've right.

And in spite of how much I love "Hunchback", I honestly think the scene where Frollo grabs Esmeralda and sniffs her hair is very unsuitable for a Disney film. Although it isn't a "real" controversial scene, it is filled of sexual overtones.

And Meg's brief seduction of Hercules in "Hercules" is quite steamy, even for a Disney film. But I've never heard anyone complain about that sequence.
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For the topic at hand there are differences between different parts of the world, for example in some countries the age of consent is lower than 18 or 16, some don't even have any.
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I always thought the part in Pocahontas where they tumble in the grass and she rolls on top of John Smith was pretty sexy XD
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Really? I've never considered it at sexy.
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I have an idea for a novel that I plan to write someday. And Disney would be more than welcome to make it a DAC, since I think it could potentially fit right in.... Probably will never happen. :P
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I always thought "Phantom of the Opera" would make a cool Disney movie. Of course, it'd be hard to rival Andrew Lloyd Webber's musical, since it's so popular.

Also "Brigadoon".
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yamiiguy wrote:I think we should have a line (ala Classics) of pure adaptations of classic novels etc. in 2D animation with hardly any alteration, such as:

-Shakespeare (Romeo & Juliet, Macbeth, Hamlet etc)
-Dickens (Oliver Twist, Great Expectations, Bleak House etc.)
-Don Quixote
-Austen (Pride & Prejudice)
-Animal Farm
-Catcher in the Rye
-Lord of the Flies
Didn't they already adapt Hamlet and Romeo & Juliet, and name them The Lion King and The Lion King II? :?
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If you had a idea for an animated Disney movie...

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Will Barks, if you like your Freudian views, okay, but do you realize that those views makes things vey limited? Saying it's all sex is saying there's nothing but sex. But there really is more. If you want to limit yourself and not believe (know) that there's more, be my guest, be my guest, put your theories to the test, tell your children you don't love them cause as you say, love's all about sex...

Yea, and Walt Disney believed there was more to life than sex, there was pure love and true love. So at least the creator of all that is Disney disagrees with you.

And of course, there's also spirituality, just one of the man things out there more than sex. I'm sure you could make that into something sexual, as you could anything, like I said, be my guest and turn everything sexual and limit your views.

Now, if you said that sex is part everything, as in we put sex into everything we do, then I could understand that. But not that everything is only from sex, we put sex into everything else there is.
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I'd like to see Disney do animated version of "Boxing Helena".

I also think there have been several foppishly dandy animated characters if you look closely enough.

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skippy wrote:I'd like to see Disney do animated version of "Boxing Helena".
I can see that after hell freezes over. ;)
skippy wrote:And all of you, never respond to any of my posts. EVER.
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