What non-classics would you make classics?

[yamiiguy]

So we all know the Classics list, the supposed creme de la creme of Disney's output over the past 70 years. Of course there are always slight disagreements but most are to do with what should not be there but what isn't that you think should be? I nominate The Lion King II: Simba's Pride because if The Rescuers Down Under is good enough then it more than fulfils the requirements.

[The_Iceflash]

I don't understand why The Rescuers Down Under gets so much slack around here. I think it's a great film and it was one of my favorites when I was I was younger. I still enjoy it more than The Rescuers.


Anyway, I would nominate The Lion King II and The Return of Jafer and Aladdin and the King of Thieves. [/i]

[BackgroundActorman1976]

I dont think any of the direct to dvd sequals should ever be a part of the animated classics line. Being a theatrical release should definately be a main criteria.

These Direct to video sequals were animated for the most part by television animation departments, and while some are decent most do not compare at all with even the least popular of the official animated classics.

Having said that Ducktales the movie, Goofy Movie, any of the Pooh spinoffs despite being theatrically released also should never be part of the classics line either.

remember walt never liked the idea of sequals to his animated features, Iam really glad there has only been 1 theatrcially released sequal to classic line movie. better to move on to new stories.

leave the sequals for the pixar films lol

I would however say that who Framed Roger Rabbit and Enchanted would make the most sense if they were to ever add previously released movies into animated classics cannon. even though they are not entirely animated they do very much have (especially enchanted) have the feel of the animated classics. but again this doesnt mean they should become classic line titles.

this is a fun little discussion thread though, great idea comming up with it op

[singerguy04]

remember walt never liked the idea of sequals to his animated features, Iam really glad there has only been 1 theatrcially released sequal to classic line movie. better to move on to new stories.

Actually, there are 3 sequels; The Rescuers Down Under, Fantasia 2000, and The Three Caballeros.


Anyhow, I wouldn't throw any of the half animated half live-action films into the cannon. They're called Disney ANIMATED Classics for a reason. In that respect I would want to include Ducktales: The Movie and A Goofy Movie. I think they were both very well executed and performed pretty well as theatrical releases. I think they embody the essence of a very well made Disney animated film, feature some well known and loved Disney characters, and were still basically animated in house. Therefore I don't think they should be excluded.

[Margos]

You know, maybe the first Tinker Bell movie. I know, I know, DTV and made by DisneyToon studios. But it was quite good. I've only listed the first one, because I'm not sure that a whole series would work too well as DACs. But seeing as how the list seems fairly arbitrary at times...

Oh yeah, and The Nightmare Before Christmas and James and the Giant Peach while we're at it.

[yamiiguy]

Good call! I'd support TNBC as well, never seen JATGP

[jpanimation]

I don't understand why The Rescuers Down Under gets so much slack around here. I think it's a great film and it was one of my favorites when I was I was younger. I still enjoy it more than The Rescuers.

Agree 100%. Expanded the characters, had breathtaking moments, first all CAPS film, original voice actors returned (I really appreciate that kind of continuity), really upped the fun factor from the original, and Bruce Broughton finally gave the series a fantastic memorable score. Not to mention it had John Candy and George C. Scott (two of my favorite actors).

Anyway, I nominate A Goofy Movie. I loved it as a kid (I still have the Burger Kings toys lol) and it holds up extremely well, even as an adult. Fantastic animation and music have made this one a classic and I wish it was recognized as one. I'd also like to nominate A Nightmare Before Christmas, for the same reasons I gave for A Goofy Movie.

Maybe next we should nominate which movies shouldn't be DACs. That would drop almost half of them

[BackgroundActorman1976]

remember walt never liked the idea of sequals to his animated features, Iam really glad there has only been 1 theatrcially released sequal to classic line movie. better to move on to new stories.

Actually, there are 3 sequels; The Rescuers Down Under, Fantasia 2000, and The Three Caballeros.


Anyhow, I wouldn't throw any of the half animated half live-action films into the cannon. They're called Disney ANIMATED Classics for a reason. In that respect I would want to include Ducktales: The Movie and A Goofy Movie. I think they were both very well executed and performed pretty well as theatrical releases. I think they embody the essence of a very well made Disney animated film, feature some well known and loved Disney characters, and were still basically animated in house. Therefore I don't think they should be excluded.

ah but Fantasia 2000 is not a sequal though, it was always walts intention that Fantasia be continously re released with added sequences while removing others. its ashame that fantasia 2000 was the only attempt at bringing a reality to walts vision of fantasia.

and the three caballeros is also more of a companion piece to saludos Amigos than a actual sequal.

[yamiiguy]

Well The Rescuers Down Under isn't a bad film but it's one of only three sequels and the only one with a full storyline (don't shoot me Cabelleros fans!)

[BackgroundActorman1976]

I don't understand why The Rescuers Down Under gets so much slack around here. I think it's a great film and it was one of my favorites when I was I was younger. I still enjoy it more than The Rescuers.

Agree 100%. Expanded the characters, had breathtaking moments, first all CAPS film, original voice actors returned (I really appreciate that kind of continuity), really upped the fun factor from the original, and Bruce Broughton finally gave the series a fantastic memorable score. Not to mention it had John Candy and George C. Scott (two of my favorite actors).

Anyway, I nominate A Goofy Movie. I loved it as a kid (I still have the Burger Kings toys lol) and it holds up extremely well, even as an adult. Fantastic animation and music have made this one a classic and I wish it was recognized as one. I'd also like to nominate A Nightmare Before Christmas, for the same reasons I gave for A Goofy Movie.

Maybe next we should nominate which movies shouldn't be DACs. That would drop almost half of them

Nightmare and james and the giant peach for that matter or any of the cgi disney films shouldnt be a part of the classics line. both james and nightmare are great films but the classics line should strictly be reserved for the hand drawn animated classics.

the reason why i dont think Ducktales or goofy movie should be a part of the classics line is that they were not animated by the walt disney features animators. The were animated by the walt disney televison animtion department.

dont get me wrong i love both movies, One of my most prized possesions to this day is my Ducktales the movie poster which is signed by Alan Young, June Foray,Russi Taylor, Tarrence Mcgovern,Christopher Lloyd, Frank Welker, Joan Gerber, Rip Taylor(whom many years helped put me in touch with the person who would turn out to be my first voice over instructor, after i had a legnthy discussion at the Hollywood collectors show)Jack Angel and chuck Mccann, still working on getting Richard Libertini(Dijon) on there though.

totally agree with you on Bruces Rescuers down under score.

[yamiiguy]

I think we're getting a bit caught on on the "handdrawn" bit, it's not necessary, Dinosaur, Chicken Little, Meet the Robinsons.

[DisneyFan09]

I don't understand why The Rescuers Down Under gets so much slack around here. I think it's a great film and it was one of my favorites when I was I was younger. I still enjoy it more than The Rescuers.. [/i]

I couldn't said it better myself. "The Rescuers Down Under" is a underrated film, which deserves much more praise than it got.

[Disney's Divinity]

Yeah, A Goofy Movie definitely. I would argue that TNBC and J&tGP shouldn't be on there because it should only be 2D films, but they've added the 3D ones, so they might as well have stop-motion films, too. They might as well throw in the live-action ones.

Also, some of the sequels have been good, but I think Disney is mostly embarassed to put things like Tinker Bell or Hunchback 2 side-by-side with Bambi and The Jungle Book.

I couldn't said it better myself. "The Rescuers Down Under" is a underrated film, which deserves much more praise than it got.

*waits for Goliath to come and burst all the balloons*

[Aqua]

I'm one who enjoyed the Disney movies before The Little Mermaid but The Great Mouse Detecive is one of them, I'd say. I liked James and the Giant Peach as well. I also like both Rescuer films but especially Down Under.

Tron for live action, too.

[Goliath]

Anyway, I would nominate The Lion King II and The Return of Jafer and Aladdin and the King of Thieves.

Eh? You really think the animation in Return of Jafar is Classic-worthy?

Agree 100%. Expanded the characters, had breathtaking moments, first all CAPS film, original voice actors returned (I really appreciate that kind of continuity), really upped the fun factor from the original, and Bruce Broughton finally gave the series a fantastic memorable score. Not to mention it had John Candy and George C. Scott (two of my favorite actors).

Did they expand the characters? Not really. They added a lame-ass character named Jake, which took time away from Bernard and Bianca. The beautifully, subtle build relationship between them was reduced to in-your-face soap operaesque 'romance'. Orville was a funny character, but Wilbur is a loud, over-the-top obnoxious character. And could they even "up" the fun factor from the original? How much funnier can it get, than having Madam Medusa and Snoops in the original film? For the sequel, they also added a boring and uninteresting villain, and some little boy nobody cares for. Don't you think the original film had a memorable score? Have you not heard 'The journey', 'Tomorrow's another day' and 'Someone's waiting for you', which received an Oscar nomination for Best Song? What's there in the sequel worth remembering? Certainly no perfect Shelby Flint songs. Yes, the sequel had CAPS animation, but they forgot the heart and warmth of the original film.

Maybe next we should nominate which movies shouldn't be DACs. That would drop almost half of them

Saludos Amigos, The Three Caballeros and Dinosaur, and all the CGI-films should be dropped.

[DisneyJedi]

I definitely nominate The Black Cauldron. Sure, it was a failure financially. But it was pretty dark in contrast to some of Disney's butterfly and sunshine films, and that's what I like about it.

[Goliath]

I definitely nominate The Black Cauldron. Sure, it was a failure financially. But it was pretty dark in contrast to some of Disney's butterfly and sunshine films, and that's what I like about it.

Eh? That's already a Classic.

[DisneyJedi]

I definitely nominate The Black Cauldron. Sure, it was a failure financially. But it was pretty dark in contrast to some of Disney's butterfly and sunshine films, and that's what I like about it.

Eh? That's already a Classic.

Ugh. I didn't think part of the Disney canon. >_<

[Scarred4life]

I wouldn't add any. Remove some, but not add.

[Super Aurora]

Eh? You really think the animation in Return of Jafar is Classic-worthy?

Yes cause of this: