Bambi: Diamond Edition Discussion - March 1, 2011

[zackisthewalrus]

So, right now, this is being predicted as the spring Diamond Edition of 2011. Hopefully Disney won't screw up next year like they did this year. So, I'm excited about this release. Anyone else?

By the way, I know this is really early, but I'm really excited. Haha

[The_Iceflash]

I was hoping The Lion King would come out first but I'm still excited.

[blackcauldron85]

Where'd you read the prediction?

[zackisthewalrus]

Where'd you read the prediction?

It's an unofficial prediction by a few Disney fans. For all I know, it could come out as the last Diamond.

[ajmrowland]

But the movie came out last in 2005. The Spring DE, if anything is indicated, shouldn't come around until 2013, after whatever the Fall 2012 DE is.

[Babaloo]

I think every year they will be releasing 2 films, and next year they should be releasing Lion King and Bambi...that's if they are following their platinum line.

[zackisthewalrus]

I think every year they will be releasing 2 films, and next year they should be releasing Lion King and Bambi...that's if they are following their platinum line.

And the fact that they removed Aladdin puts Bambi to an earlier date.

[Wonderlicious]

I think that it might be too soon for Bambi in 2011, as the original Platinum Edition only came out after the first release of The Lion King (then again, Peter Pan and Sleeping Beauty only took five years to get Platinumification). I think that it's quite likely that they might put a title not originally mentioned in the press release out, as they might not have originally known what to release as a fourteenth title. The main culprits would thus be Aladdin, Dumbo and Alice in Wonderland. Reasons for each title:

*Dumbo has been pushed back in Region 1 for a year, and it was originally announced to be a Platinum shortly before that line died.

*Alice in Wonderland had been listed in international listings from 2008/early 2009 as being the Platinum to come before The Lion King in 2011. In addition, I by chance saw an Italian cover art for a Blu-Ray release that said "Diamond Edition" on it. Obviously, now the Platinums have officially gone the way of the Holy Roman Empire and Disney have decided to churn out a DVD-only "Un-Anniversary Edition" (I still can't get over that name ) to <strike>cash-in on</strike> celebrate the release of Tim Burton's version, I think that it could be less likely to be the next Diamond Edition. Yet I do think that a Blu-Ray is coming next year, as there have been reports of it.

*Aladdin was originally a Platinum title, and did better than some comparable releases. If I'm correct, it's in the vaults in Region 1 (Region 2, on the other hand, has a "Sing-a-Long" edition on the market ), and I'm sure that it's profitable enough to put out as a Diamond Edition.

Another theory of mine is that Fantasia 2000 might end up becoming the spring Diamond Edition all of a sudden, since it is technically scheduled for quite late in the year and would easily pad out a schedule. Then again, it's probably not as profitable as the original Fantasia, and it would thus make sense to release it with that. Either way, I doubt that The Black Cauldron will be the next Diamond Edition.

[The_Iceflash]

I think that it might be too soon for Bambi in 2011, as the original Platinum Edition only came out after the first release of The Lion King (then again, Peter Pan and Sleeping Beauty only took five years to get Platinumification). I think that it's quite likely that they might put a title not originally mentioned in the press release out, as they might not have originally known what to release as a fourteenth title. The main culprits would thus be Aladdin, Dumbo and Alice in Wonderland. Reasons for each title:

*Dumbo has been pushed back in Region 1 for a year, and it was originally announced to be a Platinum shortly before that line died.

I would like to see it join the Diamond Edition line.

*Alice in Wonderland had been listed in international listings from 2008/early 2009 as being the Platinum to come before The Lion King in 2011. In addition, I by chance saw an Italian cover art for a Blu-Ray release that said "Diamond Edition" on it. Obviously, now the Platinums have officially gone the way of the Holy Roman Empire and Disney have decided to churn out a DVD-only "Un-Anniversary Edition" (I still can't get over that name ) to <strike>cash-in on</strike> celebrate the release of Tim Burton's version, I think that it could be less likely to be the next Diamond Edition. Yet I do think that a Blu-Ray is coming next year, as there have been reports of it.

I'm actually going to put off buying the "Un-Anniversary Edition" in hopes of a combo next year.

*Aladdin was originally a Platinum title, and did better than some comparable releases. If I'm correct, it's in the vaults in Region 1 (Region 2, on the other hand, has a "Sing-a-Long" edition on the market ), and I'm sure that it's profitable enough to put out as a Diamond Edition.

I would rather see this title get a Diamond Edition a little more down the line.

Another theory of mine is that Fantasia 2000 might end up becoming the spring Diamond Edition all of a sudden, since it is technically scheduled for quite late in the year and would easily pad out a schedule. Then again, it's probably not as profitable as the original Fantasia, and it would thus make sense to release it with that. Either way, I doubt that The Black Cauldron will be the next Diamond Edition.

I would rather see both Fantasia's released at the same time. Yes I highly doubt The Black Cauldron would be the next Diamond Edition. Though on that note I'm wondering whether I should buy any non-combos anymore like the upcoming Black Cauldron Special Edition and The Great Mouse Detective would be. I want to keep my double-dipping to a minimum.

[BackgroundActorman1976]

I think that it might be too soon for Bambi in 2011, as the original Platinum Edition only came out after the first release of The Lion King (then again, Peter Pan and Sleeping Beauty only took five years to get Platinumification). I think that it's quite likely that they might put a title not originally mentioned in the press release out, as they might not have originally known what to release as a fourteenth title. The main culprits would thus be Aladdin, Dumbo and Alice in Wonderland. Reasons for each title:

*Dumbo has been pushed back in Region 1 for a year, and it was originally announced to be a Platinum shortly before that line died.

*Alice in Wonderland had been listed in international listings from 2008/early 2009 as being the Platinum to come before The Lion King in 2011. In addition, I by chance saw an Italian cover art for a Blu-Ray release that said "Diamond Edition" on it. Obviously, now the Platinums have officially gone the way of the Holy Roman Empire and Disney have decided to churn out a DVD-only "Un-Anniversary Edition" (I still can't get over that name ) to <strike>cash-in on</strike> celebrate the release of Tim Burton's version, I think that it could be less likely to be the next Diamond Edition. Yet I do think that a Blu-Ray is coming next year, as there have been reports of it.

*Aladdin was originally a Platinum title, and did better than some comparable releases. If I'm correct, it's in the vaults in Region 1 (Region 2, on the other hand, has a "Sing-a-Long" edition on the market ), and I'm sure that it's profitable enough to put out as a Diamond Edition.

Another theory of mine is that Fantasia 2000 might end up becoming the spring Diamond Edition all of a sudden, since it is technically scheduled for quite late in the year and would easily pad out a schedule. Then again, it's probably not as profitable as the original Fantasia, and it would thus make sense to release it with that. Either way, I doubt that The Black Cauldron will be the next Diamond Edition.

according to the animators and people on the panel for the opening night of the fantasia 2000 2 weeks engagement at the el capitan. It is most assuredly being released in December to tie into the home video release of Sorcers apprentice. this goes for both Fantasia and Fantasia 2000.

Unfortunately the Black Cauldron will not be comming to bluray, as the trailer (which only appears on the dvd and not the bluray its self) on mentions disney dvd not bluray.(this is why i really dont the haterd many on here show to bluray when you are still getting many many re releases of animated films on dvd with no bluray version of said tiltes in sight.)

In anycase it still appears we will be getting 3 Disney animated classics on diamond edtion this year,(beauty, Fantasia, Fantasia 2000) the scheduleing just got a bit screwed up ,(rumors suggest it was because Princess and the frog didnt perform what disney was hopeing theatrically so they are focusing on trying to make it huge on home video instead at the cost of rearranging the rest of the schedule.) fingers crossed everything goes back to normal in 2011.
though i wouldnt be surprised to see perhaps a May 2011 Diamond Relase followed by a December 2011 Diamond release.

[singerguy04]

Aside from that, it seems to me that TPaTF is almost a DE without having a second disc. Just the way it was packaged and the advertising it's getting suggests that Disney is really trying to push it as the big Spring release. Maybe that's also why Dumbo was pushed back...

I also think it would be too soon for Bambi to make it to DE by 2011. I would think it's release would be in Spring 2012 instead. Dumbo is going to come next spring (we hope), and we'll also have Tangled's release in the spring as well. I'm guessing either we'll see Dumbo go Diamond or only have one Diamond in 2011 (being The Lion King in the fall of 2011).

[jpanimation]

In anycase it still appears we will be getting 3 Disney animated classics on diamond edtion this year,(beauty, Fantasia, Fantasia 2000) the scheduleing just got a bit screwed up ,(rumors suggest it was because Princess and the frog didnt perform what disney was hopeing theatrically so they are focusing on trying to make it huge on home video instead at the cost of rearranging the rest of the schedule.) fingers crossed everything goes back to normal in 2011.
though i wouldnt be surprised to see perhaps a May 2011 Diamond Relase followed by a December 2011 Diamond release.

Which is going to be costly, as I'll have to buy Blu-ray's for Beauty and the Beast, Fantasia, Fantasia 2000, Dumbo, and Bambi, all within 6 months of each other (who knows what other releases they haven't announced yet, like a possible 20th Anniversary Blu-ray release for Aladdin or a surprise Blu-ray release of Alice in Wonderland, or the Blu-ray for Rapunzel). This is a lot for me as Snow White was the last Blu-ray I bought, and Pinocchio before that (I'm frugal with my money) so all these releases at once will really hurt my wallet.

I'm not buying Ponyo (lack of extras, not even 1/9 of what is on the Japanese release), Toy Story 1&2 (hate the wallpaper cover art and am waiting for the inevitable trilogy box set) or The Princess and the Frog (waiting for the inevitable 2-disc Blu-ray, that has more extras then just the ones online, even though it will probably be a while), so this scheduling rearranging is a waste to me.

[BackgroundActorman1976]

Aside from that, it seems to me that TPaTF is almost a DE without having a second disc. Just the way it was packaged and the advertising it's getting suggests that Disney is really trying to push it as the big Spring release. Maybe that's also why Dumbo was pushed back...

I also think it would be too soon for Bambi to make it to DE by 2011. I would think it's release would be in Spring 2012 instead. Dumbo is going to come next spring (we hope), and we'll also have Tangled's release in the spring as well. I'm guessing either we'll see Dumbo go Diamond or only have one Diamond in 2011 (being The Lion King in the fall of 2011).

According to Bill Hunt over at the digital bits, The disney rep he has connections with says Dumbo is still arriving stateside in 2010.
Bill Hunt (while some people dont allways agree with his opinons) is usually dead on accurate when it comes to announcing when titles are going to seee the light of day. while readers dont always respect him you cant deny studios do respect him thus why he gets so many scoops on release dates and specs.

[BK]

PATF is not getting a 2 disc edition.
If it does it will probably be in 10 years and that's if it sells.

Everything in the new millennium save TENG has not been updated.
Lilo had everything ready to go and for some lame reason was delayed 4 years and TENG was downgraded anyway.

If Fantasia is being tied to Sorcerer's Apprentice, why is Alice not being tied to Alice? That's retarded.

[yamiiguy]

I think we'll be seeing this later than 2011, if they truly are replacing Aladdin instead of just plain removing it then the rumours point to Alice in Wonderland or The Rescuers. Then followed by The Lion King.

[jpanimation]

PATF is not getting a 2 disc edition.
If it does it will probably be in 10 years and that's if it sells.

I can wait. I own less then 10 DACs as it is, after initially buying all of them on VHS, and I don't plan on re-buying them after I get them on Blu-ray. SO, I won't be buying any half-assed Blu-ray releases as I don't ever plan of re-buying them again on this format. This is why I'll only be buying the Blu-ray releases with effort put into them.

[BackgroundActorman1976]

PATF is not getting a 2 disc edition.
If it does it will probably be in 10 years and that's if it sells.

I can wait. I own less then 10 DACs as it is, after initially buying all of them on VHS, and I don't plan on re-buying them after I get them on Blu-ray. SO, I won't be buying any half-assed Blu-ray releases as I don't ever plan of re-buying them again on this format. This is why I'll only be buying the Blu-ray releases with effort put into them.

None of disneys animated blurays thus far has been as you put it Half-assed. They put alot of effort into each release. the picture and sound on both have been absolutely stunning from snow white to princess and the frog. and the princess and the frog has ONE of the best disney bluray bonuses thus far, the work in progress version of princess and the frog.

[BK]

PATF is not getting a 2 disc edition.
If it does it will probably be in 10 years and that's if it sells.

I can wait. I own less then 10 DACs as it is, after initially buying all of them on VHS, and I don't plan on re-buying them after I get them on Blu-ray. SO, I won't be buying any half-assed Blu-ray releases as I don't ever plan of re-buying them again on this format. This is why I'll only be buying the Blu-ray releases with effort put into them.

So two questions, first, how many DVDs in total do you own?
Second, which 10 were worthy?

[tlc38tlc38]

I really don't care which titles get released first just as long as they keep to some kind of schedule that we can rely on......I know, I'm dreaming, it's Disney for goodness sake

[ajmrowland]

Bolt's release had somewhat half-assed bonus features.