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Joe Carioca · Post by **Joe Carioca** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 6:34 pm

5 points only? Hmm, I don't get it... Were mine and Grunch's answers the same?

Grunches · Post by **Grunches** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 8:57 pm

I think it is hard to do the "team work thing" I PM Ballzo and he said I got them all right but other people on my team had the same answer. So how do you choose who dosen't get the points. I really don't think that is fair for me and Joe Carioca. I think that if how many people have the same answers then no one should get the point or it should go into a team work point thing so no one like jambo*rafki has 12 and me and Joe Carioca have 5. It makes us look like we got them half wrong when we got them all right. I think that the team work thing for points needs to be changed.

Ballzo · Post by **Ballzo** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:09 pm

Everyone else had no trouble following the directions. All you had to do was talk to your team mates. The whole point of the team work special rule was to cut down on people copying and pasting their answers. Not one other member has complained to me about the special rule, in fact this rule has been praised by all members except those who didn't follow it. It's not like the questions to which the rule applied were rocket science anyway.

Incredibles those of you who have not sent in your votes, get them to me by wed night or they will not be counted.

Grunches · Post by **Grunches** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:40 pm

Ballzo wrote: All you had to do was talk to your team mates.

I did talk to my team mates to make sure they weren't putting the same answers. How did you choose who would get points taken off?

karlsen · Post by **karlsen** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:09 am

Grunches wrote:I did talk to my team mates to make sure they weren't putting the same answers. How did you choose who would get points taken off?

If you asked your team mates to be sure, then how did several of you post the same thing?

I don't know how Balzo counted it, but I would have given the points to the first that posted them

Grunches · Post by **Grunches** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:29 am

karlsen wrote:
Grunches wrote:I did talk to my team mates to make sure they weren't putting the same answers. How did you choose who would get points taken off?
If you asked your team mates to be sure, then how did several of you post the same thing?

I don't know how Balzo counted it, but I would have given the points to the first that posted them

Thats what I think How did Jambo rafiki get 12 if he was the last to post? I was first or second

karlsen · Post by **karlsen** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:41 am

But it is realy no big problem, realy.

Because it is a team contest, and it is the teams total point that counts and not the individual.

Joe Carioca · Post by **Joe Carioca** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:56 am

Grunches wrote:
Ballzo wrote: All you had to do was talk to your team mates.
I did talk to my team mates to make sure they weren't putting the same answers. How did you choose who would get points taken off?

Me too, I sent all my answers to all the members in the group, though few of them sent me their answers (actually, Grunches was the only one to do so).

karlsen · Post by **karlsen** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:04 am

Bad comunication then.

MickeyMousePal · Post by **MickeyMousePal** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:32 pm

Grunches Wrote

I think it is hard to do the "team work thing" I PM Ballzo and he said I got them all right but other people on my team had the same answer. So how do you choose who dosen't get the points. I really don't think that is fair for me and Joe Carioca. I think that if how many people have the same answers then no one should get the point or it should go into a team work point thing so no one like jambo*rafki has 12 and me and Joe Carioca have 5. It makes us look like we got them half wrong when we got them all right. I think that the team work thing for points needs to be changed.

It's not Ballzo fault that you guys didn't communicate like a team.
Everyone else has seem to have communicate with their team well.
Maybe some people didn't read the directions first before posting the answers. Maybe you guys change your minds in the last minute and that's why you got the point off.
Come on give Ballzo a break he's in finals week.
Ballzo is a great host!

karlsen · Post by **karlsen** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:42 pm

I guess what Grunches are afraid of is that he is voted of because the others votes on the one that got fewest points.

Ballzo · Post by **Ballzo** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:38 pm

**SPECIAL RULE FOR THIS ROUND: (Only one answer per teammate per question, each member of a team must submit a unique answer. Repeated answers from the same team will not be counted.However if I receive an answer that is not used by the other team, it will receive an additional bonus point)

I graded this round exactly following these rules. It clearly states that repeated answers from the same team will not be counted. Grunches and Joe Carioca's answers were not a coincidence but infact a word for word copy down to the size of the font and spacing. Jambo*Rafiki answers were original and not copied by any other group members he also got bonus points for his original answers. Donald's Tribe had no trouble with it either for all their answers within their group were unique and not copied.

Grunches and Joe Carioca I know you have read what I am posting because you are replying to them. You both have till the end of tonight to send in your cast off votes. You are holding up the game for everyone else.

Joe Carioca · Post by **Joe Carioca** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:23 pm

I'm not saying I didn't know the rules or that there was something wrong with them, I was just surprised that me and Grunches had the same answers. Now that I think about it, maybe there has been some confusion with our answers and we both sent the same ones. That's why the other member's answers were different (I sent my answers to everybody, so there wouldn't be repetitions).

karlsen · Post by **karlsen** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:46 pm

If you found out all the answers yourself and then sent them to Grunches, that means that he just copyed yours and sent them in instead of changing those that were team question.

Because of this you lost 5 points.

But either way, if you and Grunches had gotten full pot, you would not have beaten the other team, so there is realy no reason to argue about it.

Joe Carioca · Post by **Joe Carioca** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:51 pm

karlsen wrote:If you found out all the answers yourself and then sent them to Grunches, that means that he just copyed yours and sent them in instead of changing those that were team question.

OK, now I realize that I'm the guilt one here. Grunches sent me his answers and he said he was sending me them so no one would have the same answers... So I though that were the answers I was supposed to send to Ballzo, and that he had different answers. That's why I sent the answers to everybody else, so the only ones who had the same ones ended up being me and Grunches.

If that was the case, I'm really sorry Grunches. Really.

Grunches · Post by **Grunches** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:40 pm

Joe Carioca wrote:
karlsen wrote:If you found out all the answers yourself and then sent them to Grunches, that means that he just copyed yours and sent them in instead of changing those that were team question.
OK, now I realize that I'm the guilt one here. Grunches sent me his answers and he said he was sending me them so no one would have the same answers... So I though that were the answers I was supposed to send to Ballzo, and that he had different answers. That's why I sent the answers to everybody else, so the only ones who had the same ones ended up being me and Grunches.

If that was the case, I'm really sorry Grunches. Really.

Its really ok we just had bad communication with the emails. I understanded the rules and it is all cleared up now. I already sent in who I wanted to vote out so I'm not holding up the game.

Joe Carioca · Post by **Joe Carioca** » Thu Apr 29, 2004 12:30 pm

Hmm, when are we going to know who has been voted off? I sent my vote yesterday.

karlsen · Post by **karlsen** » Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:09 pm

Yes, the deadline was almost 20 hours ago. Where are you Balzo?

Ballzo · Post by **Ballzo** » Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:26 pm

I am still here

I am just waiting for a crucial vote.

Ballzo · Post by **Ballzo** » Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:43 pm

Just got it in. This round was very close but not everyone can stay forever.

The tribe has spoken...

Grunches has been voted off this week.

The questions for the next round will be up tomorrow.

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