I'm pretty sure it'll be hand-drawn. Anything that John and Ron did was hand-drawn. Besides, whatever this secret project of theirs is must be something cool. I learned of it through a friend of mine.PatrickvD wrote:well, Musker and Clements are still scheduled to start work on their next film sometime in the spring when they return from their promotional tour in Europe for The Princess and the Frog.
Whether that is a CG film or a hand drawn one is anyone's guess though.
Honestly, I'm not sure. Ron Clements and John Musker are doing another possible hand-drawn project. That's all I know.Snow White wrote:I'm very disappointed that Snow Queen is shelved! It was the most interesting movie...
Disney Jedi, what sort of movie will be the next Ron Clements & John Musker movie? I hope it will be a new movie with human characters and not another animal movie...
Let's hope that that doesn't get shelved, too.DisneyJedi wrote:Ron Clements and John Musker are doing another possible hand-drawn project. That's all I know.
I have to agree with one of the comments on there saying that the damage that Disney has already done to itself is what's making recovery a somewhat failure. I do have a feeling that if WDAS does fail then everything WILL be left in the hands of Pixar's people. I havent decided if this is a good or bad thing yet. And I'm rather surprised that animators are switching over to Dreamworks instead of over to Pixar (I'm thinking Pixar's more strict about who they hire). I dont believe that all storytelling should be entirely left in John Lassester's hands however.blackcauldron85 wrote:The article mentions that with the recently shelving of films, artists are moving elsewhere...and in the comments, Lasseter is blamed by one person (but another said that it's not his fault), how this has happened in the past, and that it'll take a while for Disney's brand to get stronger.
http://blueskydisney.blogspot.com/2010/02/exodus.html
I think that, as a Disney fan, it sucks that artists need to go to other studios (especially DreamWorks), but they have to put food on the table and pay the bills, so I definitely can't blame them (I applied to Universal a couple weeks ago, and in the past, too, so I can understand).
It'll be interesting (is that the right word? Or "frustrating"?) to see what Disney does with it's animation department. I mean, what's coming after Pooh? Anything? Will they decide to stop animation and just let Pixar do its thing? (Would Lasseter like that? I can't answer that, since I have conflicting thoughts on the matter.) Thoughts?
*edit from when I typed this in Notepad*
Let's hope that that doesn't get shelved, too.DisneyJedi wrote:Ron Clements and John Musker are doing another possible hand-drawn project. That's all I know.
Like a joint presentation from both studios? Wow, that kind of blows my mind...neat idea, though!toonaspie wrote:I had an idea earlier of mixing Pixar and WDAS animators to work on projects together.
That's a really good point. I think, at least for me, especially since [i[King of the Elves[/i] also got shelved, it's like, are all of their movies going to be shelved and they have nothing to work on? But, at the same time, we don't know that they don't have others in production that we just don't know about (I mean, a week or two ago in some thread I posted about The Velveteen Rabbit- Disney can keep secrets if they want to!). I just don't want to see WDFA become no more.toonaspie wrote:Now regarding Snow Queen: Have we considered taking a deep breath and thinking "well, if the story problems really ARE serious, then maybe it should be shelved for a while?"
Source: http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... a-hat.htmlSteve Hulett wrote:A story person related: "The main lot decided now was not the right time for another Princess movie, which is what they considered Snow Queen to be. That's why it was put aside. John Lasseter hopes at some point it can still get made"
And nobody I talked to knows how many hand-drawn projects (if any) will be happening after Winnie the Pooh wraps up the end of the year.
"There's several people working on projects to pitch, but so far nothing's been greenlit. Chris Buck is working on another feature idea [after Snow Queen], but that's going to be CGI".
Well, after Winnie the Pooh, we'll probably get Joe Jump (a CGI film) since it is still in development.blackcauldron85 wrote:I mean, what's coming after Pooh? Anything? Will they decide to stop animation and just let Pixar do its thing?
I agree. Everyone needs to take a deep breath and chill out.toonaspie wrote:
I have to agree with one of the comments on there saying that the damage that Disney has already done to itself is what's making recovery a somewhat failure. I do have a feeling that if WDAS does fail then everything WILL be left in the hands of Pixar's people. I havent decided if this is a good or bad thing yet. And I'm rather surprised that animators are switching over to Dreamworks instead of over to Pixar (I'm thinking Pixar's more strict about who they hire).
And I'm pretty convinced that had Disney not bought Pixar when they did then the entire Walt Disney Company would've announced bankruptcy at this point.
I dont think it's gonna hurt Disney to promotoe new animation directors instead of depending on the same ones constantly. I'd like to see a project where Ron and John and Lasseter are all advisors. I had an idea earlier of mixing Pixar and WDAS animators to work on projects together.
Now regarding Snow Queen: Have we considered taking a deep breath and thinking "well, if the story problems really ARE serious, then maybe it should be shelved for a while?" Cuz that's seriously how I see it. It's not gonna mean that they're NEVER gonna do the Snow Queen. It just means that they're stuck and now would not be a good time to rush and cram on a project. (Remember, it took about 40-50 years for Beauty and the Beast to finally be made after being shelved numerous times.) I'd rather they shelve it now and come back to it later then rush the story and everything into production. A good story takes years to work out. With all the other projects going on and only one studio doing everything right now, Rapunzel is gonna be Disney's first film of concern. They can go back to Snow Queen once they feel a little more confident that they can fix the problems with this film.
Oh, yes, I somehow forgot about that!sotiris2006 wrote:Well, after Winnie the Pooh, we'll probably get Joe Jump (a CGI film) since it is still in development.
Why are they considered to not be a great animation studio anymore?Babaloo wrote:I think people are putting too much pressure on Disney to become this great animation studio it once was, whereas it's probably a lot harder to do that this day in age.
I didn't mean that they're not a great animation studio. They're amazing! That's why I like Disney...but what I meant was that back in the day Disney was top and obviously that isn't as true right now. There are other animation companies that are doing equally as well at this moment. They're movies might not be as great in story and other things, and they might not have the same fanbase Disney has, but it just seems that when you think new animation now, Dinsey can't really be pinpointed as top, since people tend to like everything else as well. I love Disney, but that's just my personal opinion.blackcauldron85 wrote:Why are they considered to not be a great animation studio anymore?
But why aren't they top now? Does it all come back to marketing? I mean, one could say, "Oh, the movies in the past decade, except for one or two, didn't do very well," but those movies are still amazing. Can we really blame the cheapquels for Disney not being considered one of the great animation studios anymore?Babaloo wrote: but what I meant was that back in the day Disney was top and obviously that isn't as true right now. There are other animation companies that are doing equally as well at this moment. They're movies might not be as great in story and other things, and they might not have the same fanbase Disney has, but it just seems that when you think new animation now, Dinsey can't really be pinpointed as top, since people tend to like everything else as well.
I think you should put the blame on Mame!blackcauldron85 wrote:But why aren't they top now? Does it all come back to marketing? I mean, one could say, "Oh, the movies in the past decade, except for one or two, didn't do very well," but those movies are still amazing. Can we really blame the cheapquels for Disney not being considered one of the great animation studios anymore?Babaloo wrote: but what I meant was that back in the day Disney was top and obviously that isn't as true right now. There are other animation companies that are doing equally as well at this moment. They're movies might not be as great in story and other things, and they might not have the same fanbase Disney has, but it just seems that when you think new animation now, Dinsey can't really be pinpointed as top, since people tend to like everything else as well.
