Disney's "The Snow Queen" in 2013?

[Prince Edward]

What are Disney thinking? They seemed to be on the right track and my faith in Disney was stronger than ever before, but then they change the name for Rapunzel and cancel The Snow Queen? Stupid, stupid, stupid! But what can one expect when the former leader of the Disney Tween Crap Channel is the new boss...

And cancelling the Snow Queen because of "story problems"... If The Princess and the Frog had earned, say 500 million dollars at the American box office alone, then The Snow Queen-development would have been right on track and the story issues solved in a second. Greedy Disney. Greedy and stupid. They are compromising their future and their name with the recent development. They have to plan for the future and not only think about how they can get cash quickly.

[rs_milo_whatever]

If Disney is using Marvel as an excuse for "boy products" to keep going with princess movies all it's doing is making the Disney name go stale. Most people have NO idea Marvel is owned by Disney. I think we're being biased here, just because we as guys enjoyed them when we were kids or continue to go to a public place to watch a Disney princess movie doesn't mean every other guy does. We may realize it's not a "it's either manly or girly" and see them as films for the whole family, but that's sadly not the case for everyone else. From a marketing point of view it really does matter. And if they're using side products for boys' products, the Disney name will start being put into a strictly fairytale princess name, and it will lose boys' interest. I'm not saying stop production on romance, I'm saying throw in a couple of action.

[DisneyJedi]

Okay, it's not official that Snow Queen's been canceled, is it? Because I'll be so mad at Disney! And if they want a box office hit so damn badly, why don't they do SOMETHING right?!

[Dream Huntress]

Okay, it's not official that Snow Queen's been canceled, is it? Because I'll be so mad at Disney! And if they want a box office hit so damn badly, why don't they do SOMETHING right?!

Well, not so much as canceled but shelved, again, and goodbye to good project that could have been a great movie. But they're gonna do Joe Jump, which sort of explains the current situation at the mouse factory.

[DisneyJedi]

Okay, it's not official that Snow Queen's been canceled, is it? Because I'll be so mad at Disney! And if they want a box office hit so damn badly, why don't they do SOMETHING right?!

Well, not so much as canceled but shelved, again, and goodbye to good project that could have been a great movie. But they're gonna do Joe Jump, which sort of explains the current situation at the mouse factory.

Ugh. Lovely.

[Sotiris]

February 09, 2010

Up on the second floor, the animators are "resigned" to the reality that Snow Queen, has been shelved. As one of them noted: "There's now maybe going to be a long gap between hand-drawn projects, but they're going to work to come up with another project to replace Queen, we'll see what happens."

Source: http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... g-diz.html


February 24, 2010

Snow Queen is boring, and didn't fit Chris Buck. They're letting him do something of HIS choice now, which is about time.

Iger had nothing to do with axing Snow Queen. The story wasn't working, it wasn't coming together and Lasseter wasn't going to make it simply to make it. John's decision. And if you'd seen the reel it would have likely been your decision as well.

Snow Queen isn't being made because it's a girl fairy tale. John and Ed acknowledge that audiences are different now than they were in the 90's, and won't make girl fairy tales anymore.

It sucks, but that's why. I never saw the reels, but I know it wasn't that far into development. I don't know if it was any good or not. What I DO know is that it's good to see Chris Buck getting to do a project of his choice.

Is The Snow Queen no longer in production or not?

I ask this because a stranger keeps e-mailing me, he claims to be a former animator at Disney. He says that The Snow Queen is being reconsidered by the higher-ups. This is because of The Princess and the Frog's gross revenue, and there will not be a definite decision until they see Tangled's box office performance.

To answer your question, as of now, Snow Queen is off of the release schedule. But all movies that are in development at Disney that are "shelved" always have a chance of being put back in production. Toy Story 3 was shelved at one point too.

But as of now, it isn't being made. No one is working on it.

Source: http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... rnoon.html

[KubrickFan]

Do you Americans forget that there is s few other countries out there?;) You should wait for the international releases and then consider if the movie is a flop or not.

However, Disney was not smart when they released it at the same time as Alvin 2 and Avatar. Also, all the "Disney Princess merchandise franchise"-focus in the advertising was not good for the film's reputation I think.

You might be right about AatC 2, but I don't think Avatar was really marketed as a 'family movie'. And it's not like Disney had many options to release the movie. The summer of 2009 was dominated by Up, in March you'll have Alice in Wonderland and in the summer of 2010 you'll have Toy Story 3. So to stay out of their competition you could only place it in the winter.
Oh, and I'm not American, by the way .

[Wonderlicious]

Shame that this is in limbo (again ). It seems as though it had story problems as well, which isn't that surprising; The Snow Queen is quite a surreal and episodic story overall.

Perhaps but they were at least successful over here in the UK. By successful I mean that at least everybody I knew went into see them, school talking about them etc. I think all or most of them got to number 1 at the box office as well. Obviously I don't know why they were flops but I do know that most boys are not going to go into see something like Princess and the Frog. Perhaps there is just more girls than boys?

I think that the general boy-girl ratio is approximately 50:50!

I can obviously tell that you were probably quite young (under 11) when Treasure Planet etc came out, and it wouldn't surprise me that a lot of children would go and see but the fact is that I don't really think that there was much of a teenage/adult audience, which Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King etc did have. Also remember also that children's tickets cost less, which obviously means that the income can be quite lower. And then, of course, the gap between theatrical release and video release was larger, and more families would go to the cinema more than once to see certain films. This pretty much changed overnight; Tarzan had a gap of around a year and scored £17 Million or so (according to IMDb), whereas Treasure Planet with a far smaller gap of around four or five months between its transition got around £6 Million (things like The Lion King and Aladdin did as well as or better than Tarzan.

P.S. Go and see The Princess and the Frog, you silly! Don't care about whether you're a boy or a girl as well!

[toonaspie]

I wonder how something as unDisney and unusual as Joe Jump got greenlit to begin with.

[2099net]

Well, personally, I'd much rather see Joe Jump than The Snow Queen. Yes, I'll admit Joe Jump has more potential to fail (both creatively and commercially) but I also think it has more potential to shine. Let's hope we get the latter.

[Jack Skellington]

What about Fraidy Cat that looks cool, right ?

[DisneyJedi]

A poster at TAG blog said that the reason is got shelved has nothing to do with 2D or story problems but with fairytales and princesses. So, since they've blamed princesses for the underperformance of TPantF and not the medium there is still hope for another 2D movie from Disney after the Winnie the Pooh one.

Or perhaps it's something to do with the competition against TPatF?

[blackcauldron85]

What about Fraidy Cat that looks cool, right ?

As much as I was looking forward to Fraidy Cat back in the day, it just hasn't been in production (or preproduction) for years...As far as I know, it hasn't been greenlit again!

[Sotiris]

A poster at TAG blog said that the reason is got shelved has nothing to do with 2D or story problems but with fairytales and princesses. So, since they've blamed princesses for the underperformance of TPantF and not the medium there is still hope for another 2D movie from Disney after the Winnie the Pooh one.

Or perhaps it's something to do with the competition against TPatF?

I agree. But try convincing Disney that it was due to the stupid release date, the competition from expected blockbusters and the bad marketing choices and NOT hand-drawn animation or "fairytales" at fault.

[DisneyJedi]

Or perhaps it's something to do with the competition against TPatF?

I agree. But try convincing Disney that it was due to the stupid release date, the competition from expected blockbusters and the bad marketing choices and NOT hand-drawn animation or "fairytales" at fault.

You'd think they learned their lesson after pitting Bolt against Twilight, which some idiots think is the best thing since Titanic, when in reality, that honor might belong to Avatar.

[blackcauldron85]

The Morning Diz
http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... g-diz.html

Up on the second floor, the animators are "resigned" to the reality that Snow Queen, has been shelved. As one of them noted: "There's now maybe going to be a long gap between hand-drawn projects, but they're going to work to come up with another project to replace Queen, we'll see what happens."

I wonder if there will be any more hand-drawn shorts that these artists could work on? And we know that later on, later this year and next year, Disney will need more people to work on Pooh, so maybe for at least some of these artists, they'll be able to find them something to do in the meantime...?

[UmbrellaFish]

Relating to the quote Amy posted, I can live with a long gap, just as longer as there's more 2-D animated films coming from Disney.

[WDWLocal]

What are Disney thinking? They seemed to be on the right track and my faith in Disney was stronger than ever before, but then they change the name for Rapunzel and cancel The Snow Queen? Stupid, stupid, stupid! But what can one expect when the former leader of the Disney Tween Crap Channel is the new boss...

And cancelling the Snow Queen because of "story problems"... If The Princess and the Frog had earned, say 500 million dollars at the American box office alone, then The Snow Queen-development would have been right on track and the story issues solved in a second. Greedy Disney. Greedy and stupid. They are compromising their future and their name with the recent development. They have to plan for the future and not only think about how they can get cash quickly.

Don't jump to conclusions!

Just because Rich Ross headed a Disney Channel that you personally don't like does not mean that EVERYTHING he touches will turn to dust.

[PatrickvD]

well, Musker and Clements are still scheduled to start work on their next film sometime in the spring when they return from their promotional tour in Europe for The Princess and the Frog.

Wether that is a CG film or a hand drawn one is anyone's guess though.

[estefan]

I believe Peter del Velcho (Frog's producer and producer on the Musker/Clement production) said it would be hand-drawn.