The Princess and the Frog Discussion - Part III

[bruno_wbt]

I know it's kind of off-topic, but I'm replying to enigmawing:

There are more CDs from The Little Mermaid, like two "Sebastian" original CDs, and more compilations. For more information, take a look at this site:

http://cbl.orcein.net/thelittlemermaid/music.htm

[JDCB1986]

And to add to blackcauldron's question, did Randy Newman, Ron Clements and John Musker have any involvement with these songs?

Looks like for at least for one song, the answer is, "No."

http://www.johnvantongeren.net/

From John Van Tongersen's website:
January, 2010
Wrote and produced "Love Is A Magical Mystery" (Keith David vocals) for Walt Disney Records', Bayou Boogie, music inspired by Disney's animated film The Princess and The Frog.

[PrincePhillipFan]

Color me disappointed too that Naveen isn't in the new PatF album. I'm constantly tired of Disney giving the princes the shaft, even when some of them play a large role in the plot or have more character development than their female counterparts, like Phillip to Aurora. And then when they have a male hero who is the star, he's either completely overshadowed by the heroine of the film (Aladdin comes to mind) in merchadise, or completely forgotten like Hercules.

Oh well. My ranting aside, I'm still going to pick up the album.

[DisneyJedi]

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=pri ... hefrog.htm

Well, it took a little longer than expected, but TPatF has finally done it. The movie's managed to make it a little past the $100 million mark.

[estefan]

Big news: The Princess and the Frog is now the first hand-drawn animated film since Lilo & Stitch to make over $100 million domestically. It's ridiculous that Alvin and the Chipmunks has grossed more than half of that (showing that audience tastes are definitely not like they were over a decade or so ago), but it's a nice triumph for this sort of film in such a computer-animation filled era.

[DisneyJedi]

Big news: The Princess and the Frog is now the first hand-drawn animated film since Lilo & Stitch to make over $100 million domestically. It's ridiculous that Alvin and the Chipmunks has grossed more than half of that (showing that audience tastes are definitely not like they were over a decade or so ago), but it's a nice triumph for this sort of film in such a computer-animation filled era.

That's what I just said!

[estefan]

Aww, you beat me to the punch by a couple of seconds.

Ah, well. News this good is worth celebrating twice.

[DisneyJedi]

Aww, you beat me to the punch by a couple of seconds.

Ah, well. News this good is worth celebrating twice.

And Eisner- even if he hasn't been in the business for five years- thinks that hand-drawn is dead. Well, he can kiss it!

[pap64]

Color me disappointed too that Naveen isn't in the new PatF album. I'm constantly tired of Disney giving the princes the shaft, even when some of them play a large role in the plot or have more character development than their female counterparts, like Phillip to Aurora. And then when they have a male hero who is the star, he's either completely overshadowed by the heroine of the film (Aladdin comes to mind) in merchadise, or completely forgotten like Hercules.

Oh well. My ranting aside, I'm still going to pick up the album.

It also creates the false belief that Disney is only for girls because of all the attention they give to the female leads. I mean, it seems that if the girl isn't interesting enough its not worth doing, often giving the male leads the shaft even if its THEIR story and THEIR movie.

[Elladorine]

I know it's kind of off-topic, but I'm replying to enigmawing:

There are more CDs from The Little Mermaid, like two "Sebastian" original CDs, and more compilations. For more information, take a look at this site:

http://cbl.orcein.net/thelittlemermaid/music.htm

Ooh, thank you so much for the link!!!

[zuzu]

Yes ! France did it !

Disney's "The Princess and the Frog" had a strong $9.6-million opening in France. It took the No. 1 spot in that country from "Avatar," which had been top for six weekends. Disney's first hand-drawn animated feature in six years has reached $78.3 million internationally, and it has yet to open in several major markets, including Britain. In the U.S. and Canada it is wrapping up its run with a relatively disappointing $100 million.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-c ... 9908.story

[kenai3000]

In the U.S. and Canada it is wrapping up its run with a relatively disappointing $100 million.

How the heck is $100 million disappointing?

[supertalies]

Well, I guess they expected more...

[ajmrowland]

Don't they always?

It doesn't even have to wrap up at this time. It'll still make money in cheap-seats and in foriegn markets and dvd merchandising sales.

[Atlantica]

With all this talk of TPatF being 'dissapointing', does anyone actually know what Disney wanted it to gross ?

[PatrickvD]

With all this talk of TPatF being 'dissapointing', does anyone actually know what Disney wanted it to gross ?

$150 million. They had the same target for Bolt by the way.

[Atlantica]

Thank you PatrickvD

Do you think that the target was too high for the first 2D for such a long time ? Or do you think it was a reasonable choice ?

The important thing is, I feel, is that the audience seem to have taken the film into their hearts. People all ranging from critics, children, adults, and everyone in between. People seem to really love the film, which accounts for everything. The same thing happened with Enchanted .... it was beloved by audiences the world over, yet it still didnt seem to create the box office noise it should have.

Then again, you can have complete drivel *cough* Transformers *cough* that makes HUGE money, with really bad reviews ....

So I dont know what Disney would prefer; a movie the world are taking into their hearts, or huge box office ... ?

[PatrickvD]

I don't think it was too high for the film that was made eventually. Most of the mistakes were made in the marketing. It referred to Aladdin and The Little Mermaid. But Disney forgot that those films were never marketed as "girly princess films". TPATF had humor, jazz and darkness. All ignored in the trailers.

Next time, less glittery dresses and more classic Disney in the trailers.

Also, it's doing very well overseas and the merchandise is selling really well. And considering that it cost $50 million less than Bolt, it can be considered Disney's first profitable film since Brother Bear.

[DisneyJedi]

In the U.S. and Canada it is wrapping up its run with a relatively disappointing $100 million.

That's nonsense! That's the most money a hand-drawn movie from Disney's made domestically in years!

[IagoZazu]

Whatever. The box office doesn't guarantee the movie's good.