Tangled! (The Artist Formerly Known As Rapunzel)

[Sotiris]

From what I recall, the D23 Magazine interview with the directors was the first glimpse at what the new team had in mind. And they referred to Disneyland architecture as a source of inspiration for the art direction. Technically, they also talked about how they were improving the software used for Bolt to achieve a more hand-painted look than Disney's previous CG films. Since the switch in directors no one has mentioned the moving painting thing again. It was the internet that kept hanging onto it.

During our studio ramble, we ran into Glen Keane, who related that he was supervising animation with the Rapunzel animation crew (He's also executive producing on the picture.). Glen told us traditional animators are teaming with c.g. animators to bring a more "hand-drawn" sensibility to the c.g. characters in Rapunzel, with more stylization and counter-weight in the animation, melding computer graphics with the rhythms and tempo of traditional Disney animated features. He related how the characters' skin will have a softer look. (There is also the animation dynamics of Rapunzel's seventy feet of hair. Animating that will be fun.)

The way Glen described the process, it's going to make Rapunzel a c.g. feature to put on your "to see" list. The film is now going into serious production, so we'll be able to watch the results of the artists' and technicians' labors in (relatively) short order.

Source: http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... mouse.html


There's also this:

http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_hill/ ... board.aspx

[supertalies]

Hopefully, she painted that when she was very little because if not then she is not very good at it

In Barbie Rapunzel, Barbie was also an artist who painted her tower walls, something that is an original element and not included in the traditional fairytale. Coincidence?

I like the childlike innocence! and her using painting and her imagination to try and envision the things she can observe of the outside world are very clever storytelling tools. To give her curiosity and longing of understanding what goes on outside her tower a face. I haven't seen the Barbie movie, but I doubt it was used as a driving storytelling point and metaphor. I figure Barbie was just doing it as a hobby and didn't have any more motivation to it...

Well actually, Rapunzel's parents in the Barbie version, the king and queen, gave Rapunzel a magic silver hairbrush when she was a baby. The hairbrush, which turned into a paintbrush later on, has magical properties and whatever Rapunzel paints comes to life. With it she paints her way out of the tower by creating a secret passageway into the village, to meet her prince. Rapunzel also uses the paintbrush to paint herself a ballgown.

Also, was this known? If it was, I'm sorry!

The Hollywood Reporter says that Tony-winning actress Donna Murphy, who played Doc Ock's wife in Spider-Man 2, is joining Mandy Moore and Zachary Levi in Disney's 3D-animated Rapunzel.

Moore voices the title character, while Levi is the voice of the bandit who finds himself on the road with the rebellious, teenage hair apparent. The movie picks up with the princess, famous for her 70 feet of golden hair, after she's been stolen from her parents' castle as an infant and imprisoned. Now a teenager, Rapunzel escapes and goes on the run with a bandit as her captor pursues them.

Murphy will voice Mother Gothel, the witch who keeps Rapunzel prisoner in a tower that had no doors or stairs.

Byron Howard and Nathan Greno (Bolt) are directing the musical comedy, to feature music by Alan Menken

from: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=61559

[Margos]

Well actually, Rapunzel's parents in the Barbie version, the king and queen, gave Rapunzel a magic silver hairbrush when she was a baby. The hairbrush, which turned into a paintbrush later on, has magical properties and whatever Rapunzel paints comes to life. With it she paints her way out of the tower by creating a secret passageway into the village, to meet her prince. Rapunzel also uses the paintbrush to paint herself a ballgown.

Seriously!? I've never seen that version, and now I'm so glad I haven't. Of course, I'm not really in the habit of watching any of the Barbie animated movies. They just never turn out very well, do they?

The Hollywood Reporter says that Tony-winning actress Donna Murphy, who played Doc Ock's wife in Spider-Man 2, is joining Mandy Moore and Zachary Levi in Disney's 3D-animated Rapunzel.

Moore voices the title character, while Levi is the voice of the bandit who finds himself on the road with the rebellious, teenage hair apparent. The movie picks up with the princess, famous for her 70 feet of golden hair, after she's been stolen from her parents' castle as an infant and imprisoned. Now a teenager, Rapunzel escapes and goes on the run with a bandit as her captor pursues them.

Murphy will voice Mother Gothel, the witch who keeps Rapunzel prisoner in a tower that had no doors or stairs.

Hmm. Well, I'm not familiar with this Donna Murphy. Does she sound sinister, or even mildly creepy? I certainly hope so. I mean, most good Disney villainesses just have "that voice," you know? Like, when you hear Eleanor Audley or Pat Carroll speak, it's just like, you can almost hear the ominous music in the background.

[Candy-Bonita95]

I have a strange feeling that Rapunzel's attitude will change throughout the movie.She's tying Flynn up because she thinks she's the boss,but in reality she's not.When she realizes that Flynn has other things to do she'll stop being so fiesty

[Sotiris]

I've just realized that Rapunzel's love interest is no longer a prince but a bandit.

Oh, how scandalous!

[PatrickvD]

links? From what I recall, the D23 Magazine interview with the directors was the first glimpse at what the new team had in mind. And they referred to Disneyland architecture as a source of inspiration for the art direction. Technically, they also talked about how they were improving the software used for Bolt to achieve a more handpainted look than Disney's previous CG films. They never said it was gonna look like it was a traditionally animated film. Because... that's impossible.

Since the switch in directors no one has mentioned the moving painting thing again. It was the internet that kept hanging onto it. Just last week I noticed wikipedia was still claiming they were going for that Rococo look from The Swing. It was outdated.

''During our studio ramble, we ran into Glen Keane, who related that he was supervising animation with the Rapunzel animation crew (He's also executive producing on the picture.). Glen told us traditional animators are teaming with c.g. animators to bring a more "hand-drawn" sensibility to the c.g. characters in Rapunzel, with more stylization and counter-weight in the animation, melding computer graphics with the rhythms and tempo of traditional Disney animated features. He related how the characters' skin will have a softer look. (There is also the animation dynamics of Rapunzel's seventy feet of hair. Animationg that will be fun.)

The way Glen described the process, it's going to make Rapunzel a c.g. feature to put on your "to see" list. The film is now going into serious production, so we'll be able to watch the results of the artists' and technicians' labors in (relatively) short order''.
Source: http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... mouse.html

Also check this:
http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_hill/ ... board.aspx

yeah, but Keane's description of the animation is exactly what we see in the promo image. Right down to the "skin having a softer look". This IS what they've been referring to. If your'e saying handpainted my ass then what the heck were you expecting? Snow White?

What's wrong here is the interpretation that we're getting CGI that's going to look exactly like it's hand drawn. That doesn't make sense because if that's what they wanted to achieve they'd just draw it. But they're going for the warmth and the sensibilities. And looking at that image, it's all there.

and we haven't even seen it in motion. Which is referred to by Glen Keane specifically.

[robster16]

Well actually, Rapunzel's parents in the Barbie version, the king and queen, gave Rapunzel a magic silver hairbrush when she was a baby. The hairbrush, which turned into a paintbrush later on, has magical properties and whatever Rapunzel paints comes to life. With it she paints her way out of the tower by creating a secret passageway into the village, to meet her prince. Rapunzel also uses the paintbrush to paint herself a ballgown.

Seriously!? I've never seen that version, and now I'm so glad I haven't. Of course, I'm not really in the habit of watching any of the Barbie animated movies. They just never turn out very well, do they?

The Hollywood Reporter says that Tony-winning actress Donna Murphy, who played Doc Ock's wife in Spider-Man 2, is joining Mandy Moore and Zachary Levi in Disney's 3D-animated Rapunzel.

Moore voices the title character, while Levi is the voice of the bandit who finds himself on the road with the rebellious, teenage hair apparent. The movie picks up with the princess, famous for her 70 feet of golden hair, after she's been stolen from her parents' castle as an infant and imprisoned. Now a teenager, Rapunzel escapes and goes on the run with a bandit as her captor pursues them.

Murphy will voice Mother Gothel, the witch who keeps Rapunzel prisoner in a tower that had no doors or stairs.

Hmm. Well, I'm not familiar with this Donna Murphy. Does she sound sinister, or even mildly creepy? I certainly hope so. I mean, most good Disney villainesses just have "that voice," you know? Like, when you hear Eleanor Audley or Pat Carroll speak, it's just like, you can almost hear the ominous music in the background.

Go to this post on page 54 within this topic:

http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... 787#475787

there you'll find much more info on Donna Murphy and a video that you HAVE to watch! Showcases her brilliance and beautiful voice AND the lyrics of the song she sings are perfectly fit for Rapunzel, coincidentally!

[Sotiris]

Keane's description of the animation is exactly what we see in the promo image. Right down to the "skin having a softer look". This IS what they've been referring to. If your'e saying hand-painted my ass, then what the heck were you expecting? Snow White?

The characters looks the same with the human characters in Bolt. We were expecting something we haven't seen before, something groundbreaking. This is not it.

[Margos]

Oh, thanks for the link, Robster16! You're right, she sounds perfect! Maybe not completely ominous, but definitely right for the part anyway. And that song really does fit Mother Gothel. She can play creepily obsessed like no one's business! Now I'm really excited!

[PatrickvD]

yeah, but Keane's description of the animation is exactly what we see in the promo image. Right down to the "skin having a softer look". This IS what they've been referring to. If your'e saying handpainted my ass then what the heck were you expecting? Snow White?

The style and look of the characters looks exactly the same with the human characters in Bolt. What softer skin and BS?

We were expecting something we haven't seen before, something innovative or even groundbreaking (because that's what they had promised). This is not it.

I disagree. I've not seen CG humans quite like this. So clearly you were expecting something that isn't possible. (yet)

[Sotiris]

I disagree. I've not seen CG humans quite like this. So clearly you were expecting something that isn't possible (yet).

I think it can be possible. They just opted for something more generic. They didn't want to take a risk.

[Margos]

I disagree. I've not seen CG humans quite like this. So clearly you were expecting something that isn't possible. (yet)

This may be the best CG I've ever seen. Looking at it closer, I think it has the sophistication and detail of Pixar's work, coupled with the very lush, "fantasy-lit" warmth (I can't think of how else to describe it) and translatability into 2D that the Disney Fairies series has. So basically, the best parts of each of my two favorite uses of computer animation!

[PrincePhillipFan]

I love the designs so far of the characters. I can't wait to see more from the upcoming film!

[PatrickvD]

I disagree. I've not seen CG humans quite like this. So clearly you were expecting something that isn't possible. (yet)

Avatar showcased some innovative CGI work. So that means it can be possible.

Avatar showed breakthrough in blending CGI, live action and motion capture. It has little to do with Disney animation in my opinion.

Aside from the fact that the film was a remake of Pocahontas with a little Tarzan, Lion King, Atlantis and Ferngully mixed in.

[Margos]

Aside from the fact that the film was a remake of Pocahontas with a little Tarzan, Lion King, Atlantis and Ferngully mixed in.

I'm just glad someone other than me felt the need to say this.

By the way, did you see the video someone (I think it may have been Mooky, but I have absolutely no idea, so correct me if I'm wrong) posted in the "Videos you have found" thread? Go check it out! It's the "Avatar" trailer done with scenes from Pocahontas. It fits like a glove!

[Rumpelstiltskin]

I like what I see, but wasn't Rapunzel supposed to have freckles? As I remember, that's one of the elements that Keane really wanted to add to the character.

[Super Aurora]

Aside from the fact that the film was a remake of Pocahontas with a little Tarzan, Lion King, Atlantis and Ferngully mixed in.

Now that's just stupid and just shows that you're desperately trying to criticize on the film randomly.

I can say all the disney films are remake of something too by that logic.

Lion King is remake of Kimba the White Lion and Hamlet.

Atlantis is remake of Nadia and 20,000 Leagues under the Sea

or how about Aladdin is remake of The Thief and the Cobbler plus Superman the movie (hint: Whole New World), Lawrence of Arabia(it has a fucking desert),?

[Jules]

On Cartoon Brew some people are claiming that this may be just a sketch or a piece of development art rather than actual CG.

Let's wait for confirmation that it is CG before we get all happy at how soft and organic it looks (and it does).

[Disney's Divinity]

I'm not disappointed because I was expecting it to look a lot more generic than this. I think it could still look a million times better but to be honest I'm pleasantly surprised that it at least looks as good as it does. It could be a lot worse. But like I said, it could be a LOT better too.

I agree with you.

I've never had high expectations about the fact that this was going to be in 3D. Thus, I'm pleasantly surprised. If the whole movie can look like that, I'll love it (as much as I could love a 3D film). But, as many have said, a trailer is necessary to really judge it properly, because it can look good in one shot and not be fluid/organic in movement. I do hope they do excellent CGI for this, considering it is a "princess" movie. I don't know, it seems like there's more to lose if the animation looks bad with this movie for me.

Though, as said, it could still be a lot better. That "painterly" idea has always been a great fantasy, but I haven't seen a 3D film yet to be on that level.

As for the character designs, they are definitely generic. Wasn't expecting much based on the concept art, though. But I like the background and the wall--it reminds me of the cottage in Sleeping Beauty.

[Wonderlicious]

On Cartoon Brew some people are claiming that this may be just a sketch or a piece of development art rather than actual CG.

I understand this assumption, as "un croquis" (which translates as drawing or sketch) appears within the text. However, I think in this case that it's meant to mean a promotional still as opposed to an actual screenshot from the movie.

And I'd like to remind everyone about the first clip of the animation from Enchanted that appeared in the Disney Channel "behind the scenes" featurette around January 2007. That didn't look all that great and sent everyone into a panic yet we soon found out that these shots were just a half-baked sampler to just pad out a promo and that the final work was much better.

Either way, as far as I'm concerned, so far so good. The whole "moving painting" thing seemed a bit far-fetched from the get-go, and I think that what they meant was for the film to look softer and less plasticky than a lot of CG films. When we see a bit more, I'll have a better impression.