... but were cancelled?
I remember reading about the "Chanticleer" project that Marc Davis did concept art for in the early 60s. I also heard that a "Fantasia 2006" (or something like that) was planned. I also heard of some other projects.
Were there any other scrapped projects?
What were some Disney films that were planned...
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There was "Fraidy Cat," something Hitchcockian about a cat and a parrot that I believe solved mysteries, to be directed by Ron and John.
Also, "My Peoples," which I'm fairly certain involved an Appalachian love story, in which the lovers are aided by several small, possessed cloth dolls.
Also, "My Peoples," which I'm fairly certain involved an Appalachian love story, in which the lovers are aided by several small, possessed cloth dolls.
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I really don't know. We were discussing them somewhere else, I think in the "The Snow Queen" thread.
Oh, and I forgot some:
"Ramayana," an adaptation of an old (Hindu? or Buddhist?) legend, or something. I don't really remember very well. This one's been rumored to be being reconsidered for a possible production.
"Aida," a 2D animation adaptation of the broadway musical.
"Wild Life," which I have no idea what it was about, but it was supposedly to be more adult-oriented.
I'm not really the expert on these kinds of things, if anyone who knows more about these projects would contibute, that would great!
Oh, and I forgot some:
"Ramayana," an adaptation of an old (Hindu? or Buddhist?) legend, or something. I don't really remember very well. This one's been rumored to be being reconsidered for a possible production.
"Aida," a 2D animation adaptation of the broadway musical.
"Wild Life," which I have no idea what it was about, but it was supposedly to be more adult-oriented.
I'm not really the expert on these kinds of things, if anyone who knows more about these projects would contibute, that would great!
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I'm assuming "Adia" was thought up in the early 1990s, because I have book called "Enchanted Drawings" by Charles Solomon (1989, updated in 1994), and it mentions that "Aida" was in the works along with "Hunchback" and "Mulan".
"Wild Life", sounds familiar. I do know that "Wild Life" was supposedly one of the working titles for "The Wild" (I could be wrong).
Other than that, in the book "DisneyWar", they mentioned a project that was supposed to be the next Disney film after "The Black Cauldron", but it was cancelled because Jeffrey Katzenberg said he hated it.
"Wild Life", sounds familiar. I do know that "Wild Life" was supposedly one of the working titles for "The Wild" (I could be wrong).
Other than that, in the book "DisneyWar", they mentioned a project that was supposed to be the next Disney film after "The Black Cauldron", but it was cancelled because Jeffrey Katzenberg said he hated it.
There's probably hundreds of Disney films considered for animation in some form or another that never made it. At least, several dozen have come to light.
These films were all considered in various capacities - from Disney simply buying the rights, to an official pitch, to actual pre-production (songs made, script written, or character sketches).
Here is just a sample of Disney Animated Features that were not realized, there are plenty more than this:
"Abarat" - based on the Clive Barker book was seriously considered before Barker became wary of selling Disney the copyrights to his story.
"Wild Life" - was a 2D film about animals who sang in a night club.
"Fraidy Cat" - was a CGI film about a cat and parrot in a Hitcockian comedy/thriller.
"Don Quixote" - was an adaptation of the classic story by the Brizzi Brothers.
"My Peoples" - these doll-like inventions of spare parts come to life and help two people in Appalachia - a love story. It was going to be 2D figures against a CGI background, I believe.
"Ramayana" is supposedly coming back as a 2D project.
"Fantasia 2006" was an idea of Roy Disney - 4 segments were completed: John Henry, Lorenzo, The Little Matchgirl, One by One - 3 of the 4 are now on DVD.
"The Search for Mickey Mouse" - the original 50th Disney film, it was going to see Mickey kidnapped and Minnie hires Basil of "The Great Mouse Detective" to find him, many classic Disney characters such as Alice and the Dwarfs would have had cameos - it was scrapped when it became too hard to figure out why all these character's worlds would be collided.
"Aida" was canceled and made into the stage musical, instead.
"Chanticleer" was canceled in part thanks to Don Bluth doing it first with "Rock-a-Doodle".
"Cuban Carnival" - would have made Saludos Amigos/The Three Caballeros a trilogy, except it was canceled when the previous two did not gross what was expected.
"Gremlin Lore" - the story by Roald Dahl was considered as a full-length wartime feature rather than the hybrid "Victory Through Air Power."
"The Hound of Florence" - a possibility in the 40's - a human becomes a dog who solves crime.
"Scruffy" - This wartime tale told of Scruffy, one of the famous apes that live on the Rock of Gibraltar. In the Disney version, there would be a villainous Nazi spy to be outwitted, and a beautiful she-ape to be wooed.
"Babar" - Disney owned the book rights and had considered an animated film.
"Hiawatha" - An animated version of Longfellow's famous poem Hiawatha was planned as far back as 1948. Beautiful characters were designed, like Kabibonokka, the spirit of the North Wind. Although the story was never fully developed, much of the style of the movie was resurrected when Disney animators used it as a style blueprint during the production of Pocahontas.
"Hansel and Gretel" - would have starred Mickey and Minnie in the titular roles, the Sherman brothers even wrote songs for it.
"The Four Musicians of Bremen" was in preparation around 1969. Walt had already explored this Brothers Grimm tale in a 1922 Laugh-O-Gram 7 minute silent movie, but after his death the company thought of remaking it in long form with a then-contemporary setting. The musicians were to be played by unloved animals who try to educate the town in the virtues of Beatle-esque rock music. Unlike some of the other ideas here, this one looks pretty weak; it's one of many examples of how the company was unsure of itself in the period following its founder's passing.
"Uncle Stiltzkin" - a parody twist on the tale of "Rumplestiltskin". Disney had a script written for it.
"Sinbad" - Disney had a script written by "Treasure Planet" and PotC writers Ted Elliott and Terry Russio.
"John Carter of Mars" - before becoming a Pixar flick, it was pitched in both the 30's and 80's to be a Disney animated film.
"Where the Wild Things Are" - was used to do a CGI test footage by John Lasseter in the hope it may become a new Disney feature.
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Also consider films that were changed/made elsewhere:
"The Wild" - one reason it could be considered canon is because it was not fully an outside project that Disney only distributed. It was all planned inside Disney, first as a live-action project, than as an animated project - and eventually was given to C.O.R.E. to make once it was planned inside Disney.
"Rapunzel Unbraided" - originally "Rapunzel" was going to be a parody of fairy-tales like "Shrek" or "Enchanted."
"American Dog" - "BOLT" was originally going to be more quirky, with a dog who battles gangsters at Casinos with help from a cat with an eyepatch and a giant, radioactive rabbit.
"The Prince of Egypt" - a Disney animator swears he pitched the idea to Jeffrey Katzenberg who turned it down before leaving Disney for DreamWorks, where the film was never heard from again...
"Kingdom of the Sun" - originally, "The Emperor's New Groove" was a new take on "The Prince and the Pauper" by Roger Allers, where Yzma was scary and had a voodoo magical wooden staff. It became too serious and too long in production so it was scrapped and became a comedy. ("The Sweatbox" is a documentary Sting's wife made about it, and Disney has refused to let the film be released as it portrays their animation process negatively.)
"The Little Mermaid" was originally planned by Walt himself, but in a much darker version of the story.
"The Brave Little Toaster" - John Lasseter pitched this to Disney as their first CGI film all the way back in the 80's but was fired for even thinking CGI could be a medium in film.
Also, many films were downsized into shorts when they weren't meaty enough for full-length features.
These films were all considered in various capacities - from Disney simply buying the rights, to an official pitch, to actual pre-production (songs made, script written, or character sketches).
Here is just a sample of Disney Animated Features that were not realized, there are plenty more than this:
"Abarat" - based on the Clive Barker book was seriously considered before Barker became wary of selling Disney the copyrights to his story.
"Wild Life" - was a 2D film about animals who sang in a night club.
"Fraidy Cat" - was a CGI film about a cat and parrot in a Hitcockian comedy/thriller.
"Don Quixote" - was an adaptation of the classic story by the Brizzi Brothers.
"My Peoples" - these doll-like inventions of spare parts come to life and help two people in Appalachia - a love story. It was going to be 2D figures against a CGI background, I believe.
"Ramayana" is supposedly coming back as a 2D project.
"Fantasia 2006" was an idea of Roy Disney - 4 segments were completed: John Henry, Lorenzo, The Little Matchgirl, One by One - 3 of the 4 are now on DVD.
"The Search for Mickey Mouse" - the original 50th Disney film, it was going to see Mickey kidnapped and Minnie hires Basil of "The Great Mouse Detective" to find him, many classic Disney characters such as Alice and the Dwarfs would have had cameos - it was scrapped when it became too hard to figure out why all these character's worlds would be collided.
"Aida" was canceled and made into the stage musical, instead.
"Chanticleer" was canceled in part thanks to Don Bluth doing it first with "Rock-a-Doodle".
"Cuban Carnival" - would have made Saludos Amigos/The Three Caballeros a trilogy, except it was canceled when the previous two did not gross what was expected.
"Gremlin Lore" - the story by Roald Dahl was considered as a full-length wartime feature rather than the hybrid "Victory Through Air Power."
"The Hound of Florence" - a possibility in the 40's - a human becomes a dog who solves crime.
"Scruffy" - This wartime tale told of Scruffy, one of the famous apes that live on the Rock of Gibraltar. In the Disney version, there would be a villainous Nazi spy to be outwitted, and a beautiful she-ape to be wooed.
"Babar" - Disney owned the book rights and had considered an animated film.
"Hiawatha" - An animated version of Longfellow's famous poem Hiawatha was planned as far back as 1948. Beautiful characters were designed, like Kabibonokka, the spirit of the North Wind. Although the story was never fully developed, much of the style of the movie was resurrected when Disney animators used it as a style blueprint during the production of Pocahontas.
"Hansel and Gretel" - would have starred Mickey and Minnie in the titular roles, the Sherman brothers even wrote songs for it.
"The Four Musicians of Bremen" was in preparation around 1969. Walt had already explored this Brothers Grimm tale in a 1922 Laugh-O-Gram 7 minute silent movie, but after his death the company thought of remaking it in long form with a then-contemporary setting. The musicians were to be played by unloved animals who try to educate the town in the virtues of Beatle-esque rock music. Unlike some of the other ideas here, this one looks pretty weak; it's one of many examples of how the company was unsure of itself in the period following its founder's passing.
"Uncle Stiltzkin" - a parody twist on the tale of "Rumplestiltskin". Disney had a script written for it.
"Sinbad" - Disney had a script written by "Treasure Planet" and PotC writers Ted Elliott and Terry Russio.
"John Carter of Mars" - before becoming a Pixar flick, it was pitched in both the 30's and 80's to be a Disney animated film.
"Where the Wild Things Are" - was used to do a CGI test footage by John Lasseter in the hope it may become a new Disney feature.
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Also consider films that were changed/made elsewhere:
"The Wild" - one reason it could be considered canon is because it was not fully an outside project that Disney only distributed. It was all planned inside Disney, first as a live-action project, than as an animated project - and eventually was given to C.O.R.E. to make once it was planned inside Disney.
"Rapunzel Unbraided" - originally "Rapunzel" was going to be a parody of fairy-tales like "Shrek" or "Enchanted."
"American Dog" - "BOLT" was originally going to be more quirky, with a dog who battles gangsters at Casinos with help from a cat with an eyepatch and a giant, radioactive rabbit.
"The Prince of Egypt" - a Disney animator swears he pitched the idea to Jeffrey Katzenberg who turned it down before leaving Disney for DreamWorks, where the film was never heard from again...
"Kingdom of the Sun" - originally, "The Emperor's New Groove" was a new take on "The Prince and the Pauper" by Roger Allers, where Yzma was scary and had a voodoo magical wooden staff. It became too serious and too long in production so it was scrapped and became a comedy. ("The Sweatbox" is a documentary Sting's wife made about it, and Disney has refused to let the film be released as it portrays their animation process negatively.)
"The Little Mermaid" was originally planned by Walt himself, but in a much darker version of the story.
"The Brave Little Toaster" - John Lasseter pitched this to Disney as their first CGI film all the way back in the 80's but was fired for even thinking CGI could be a medium in film.
Also, many films were downsized into shorts when they weren't meaty enough for full-length features.
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Wow.
I do know about the early versions of "Bolt", "Rapunzel" and "The Wild". And I knew Walt considered doing "The Little Mermaid" (and "Beauty and the Beast"). And I also knew of the "Search for Mickey Mouse" idea, and I saw the "Where the Wild Things Are" CGI test.
I read somewhere that they brought "Chanticleer" back in the 80s, but you were right about Bluth re-doing it. I read that he heard about Disney cancelling the idea (for the second time), so he decided to adapt the story.
What about that idea Disney planned after "Tarzan" that was supposed to make more use of the Deep Canvas system?
I do know about the early versions of "Bolt", "Rapunzel" and "The Wild". And I knew Walt considered doing "The Little Mermaid" (and "Beauty and the Beast"). And I also knew of the "Search for Mickey Mouse" idea, and I saw the "Where the Wild Things Are" CGI test.
I read somewhere that they brought "Chanticleer" back in the 80s, but you were right about Bluth re-doing it. I read that he heard about Disney cancelling the idea (for the second time), so he decided to adapt the story.
What about that idea Disney planned after "Tarzan" that was supposed to make more use of the Deep Canvas system?
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As long as we're talking about them here anyhow...
I would LOVE for "Fraidy Cat" to come back into development / production someday. I always thought it sounded like a really interesting project, and one that I would really enjoy. On paper, it somewhat reminded me of the "Lorenzo" short, if perhaps just because of the visual of a harried cat thrust into a horrifying situation beyond his control.
...but instead, I get "Joe Jump".
I would LOVE for "Fraidy Cat" to come back into development / production someday. I always thought it sounded like a really interesting project, and one that I would really enjoy. On paper, it somewhat reminded me of the "Lorenzo" short, if perhaps just because of the visual of a harried cat thrust into a horrifying situation beyond his control.
...but instead, I get "Joe Jump".
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That sort of sounds like something along the lines of what Kingdom Hearts turned out to be, at least the part about pulling all these characters together.Neal wrote: "The Search for Mickey Mouse" - the original 50th Disney film, it was going to see Mickey kidnapped and Minnie hires Basil of "The Great Mouse Detective" to find him, many classic Disney characters such as Alice and the Dwarfs would have had cameos - it was scrapped when it became too hard to figure out why all these character's worlds would be collided.
Not to sure what I think about them making a feature about the Hindu religion epic, The Ramayan. Disney usually stays away from religious stuff. If they were going to make a movie about something from India, they should pick something that doesn't involve Gods that are still worshipped by people.
I believe it was Steven Spielberg who suggested to Katzenberg that he should produce an animated version of The Ten Commandments, wasn't it?Neal wrote: "The Prince of Egypt" - a Disney animator swears he pitched the idea to Jeffrey Katzenberg who turned it down before leaving Disney for DreamWorks, where the film was never heard from again...
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And failed at it.Ostrum-Safari1992 wrote:I read somewhere that they brought "Chanticleer" back in the 80s, but you were right about Bluth re-doing it. I read that he heard about Disney cancelling the idea (for the second time), so he decided to adapt the story.
You guys also forgetting Swan Lake, Odysseys, and Moby Dick.
Odyssey became Hercules instead. And Swan Lake was pitched in along with Aladdin and Lion King(formally called King of the Jungle). Ron and Jon choose to do Aladdin as they thought Swan Lake too much like Little Mermaid in story. When Swan Princess came out by Richard Rich, Disney decided not to do one.
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I'd like to see Disney produce Walt's 2nd proposed film Wizard of OZ in being fathiful to Baum's classic tale. Doesn't have to be excataly like MGM's verison, have the Sherman Bros/John Willaims write up the score/lyrics. The Lion can actualy have a name along with Tin Man/ScareCrow.
I'd also like to see Rumplestilskin adapted as a feature length too, the title character may have to be alter (villain or Victor)
I'd also like to see Rumplestilskin adapted as a feature length too, the title character may have to be alter (villain or Victor)
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This is the one that was pitched on the one episode of Mickey Mouse club right? Or wait a minute, it wasn't an episode of the Mickey Mouse club, I think it was just the Mouseketeers presenting it.Mason_Ireton wrote:I'd like to see Disney produce Walt's 2nd proposed film Wizard of OZ in being fathiful to Baum's classic tale. Doesn't have to be excataly like MGM's verison, have the Sherman Bros/John Willaims write up the score/lyrics. The Lion can actualy have a name along with Tin Man/ScareCrow.
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Actually, it was a CGI film. I'm not sure about its earlier manifestions but the most recent one where the majority of artwork was created was to be created in CGI. Also, the footage leaked is in CGI.Neal wrote:"Wild Life" - was a 2D film about animals who sang in a night club.
Yes, but then was it turned into a completely CGI picture. This has happened many times during the late years of Disney animation. Dumbo II and Aristocrats II were supposed to be produced as 2D sequels initially but then turned into CGI movies and then they were canceled (thankfully)Neal wrote:My Peoples" - these doll-like inventions of spare parts come to life and help two people in Appalachia - a love story. It was going to be 2D figures against a CGI background, I believe.
Actually, John Henry was never intended to be included in Fantasia 2006. Evident that it features narration and dialogue. Destino was the 4th one.Neal wrote:"Fantasia 2006" was an idea of Roy Disney - 4 segments were completed: John Henry, Lorenzo, The Little Matchgirl, One by One - 3 of the 4 are now on DVD.
He was really fired due to bad relations with his superior. The movie was not greenlighted since the budget was to be the same as an average Disney film. Executives then were only to use CGI in film if only it would save them time and money.Neal wrote:"The Brave Little Toaster" - John Lasseter pitched this to Disney as their first CGI film all the way back in the 80's but was fired for even thinking CGI could be a medium in film.
