Golden Globe Awards - UP or PRINCESS AND THE FROG?

Flanger-Hanger · Post by **Flanger-Hanger** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:02 pm

I'll just add my vote would go to Coraline, but I'd have zero objections to Fantastic Mr. Fox winning, which I just saw and it was most definitely "Fantastic".

pap64 · Post by **pap64** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:11 pm

toonaspie wrote:Up is gonna cream the competetion regardless just because "it's Pixar"

Cars was a Pixar film, and it didn't win any awards...

The truth is that Pixar is the only animation house who actually dares to go beyond the standards of CG filmmaking and create something daring, fun and creative. Their strongest competitor, Dreamworks, mainly does funny, celebrity filled movies with very little emotional content (save for Kung Fu Panda...). So in comparison, Pixar films look stronger due to their content and themes.

But its been proven that if a film is strong enough to compete with Pixar they CAN win. Two words for you: Happy Feet. It was a thematically strong film with great visuals, catchy music and a strong message. It may have been preachy, but it tried to go beyond the CG film cliches and create something far more memorable.

So long story short, Pixar films get praise and awards not just because they are Pixar.

milojthatch · Post by **milojthatch** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:19 pm

The Princess and the Frog. But next I'd want Up to win.

ColorsOfTheWind · Post by **ColorsOfTheWind** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:36 pm

I love both movies, but my vote would go to Princess and the Frog for sure. I've seen it four times so far and each time, I've left with a feeling of just....wow. It's indescribable. Coincidently, I saw Up four times as well, but the more I saw it, the more I lost that "wow" feeling. That has yet to happen with me for Princess and the Frog.

dvdjunkie · Post by **dvdjunkie** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:37 pm

Since I am the senior curmudgeon on this site and can relate to the central figure of "UP", I am casting my vote for "UP" for Best Animated Feature. The Golden Globes are the precursor to the Academy Awards, and as a rule what wins here, wins there. I have seen all the nominated Animated films, and while each has its own high points and low points, I think that the overall story of "UP" is far superior to that of even "The Princess and The Frog", although I wanted to dance in the aisles to the music of this film.

"The Fantastic Mr. Fox" doesn't hold a candle to either "UP" or "The Princess and the Frog", and if there were a sleeper in this set it would be "Coraline", although I will put my money on "UP"!!!!

disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:49 pm

I will be happy with either one.....maybe a little more if Princess and the Frog gets it but both are in my mind very deserving....any chance of a tie for 1st

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:28 pm

Of the three nominees that I've seen (Coraline, The Princess and the Frog, and Up), I think Up will win. It's got a lot of heart, a solid story, relatable characters, excellent music, and is really really good.

I wanted to see Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs in theatres, but missed out, and I always intended on just blindbuying The Fantastic Mr. Fox.

albert

David S. · Post by **David S.** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:01 pm

This is a very difficult choice, as I loved and enjoyed both very much. And I've only seen Princess and the Frog one time so far. It would be easier to decide, perhaps, after I've seen Princess a few more times.

For now, if I absolutely had to vote on this and could only pick one, I would probably vote for Up, due to it's strong emotional core.

On the other hand though, Princess and the Frog was probably a more FUN movie for me, with it's catchy jazzy musical sequences and humor. Like Up, it had heart, too.

What's interesting about this is that usually my choice for animated film of the year is very clear for me but this one is closer than usual.

I'd honestly be very happy if either won!

JDCB1986 · Post by **JDCB1986** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:09 pm

Definitely The Princess And The Frog for me, it instantly took a spot among my favourite animate classics, while Up is one of my least favourite Pixar films.

Babaloo · Post by **Babaloo** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:31 pm

Although I would rather PatF, I think Up will win...To tell you the truth (and no one attack me please) I think Up is overrated

. I loved the beginning of the film, but once they land in South America the movie just didn't interest me anymore.

JDCB1986 · Post by **JDCB1986** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:58 pm

Babaloo wrote:I think Up is overrated . I loved the beginning of the film, but once they land in South America the movie just didn't interest me anymore.

I completely agree... Actually, I enjoyed the first bit of them in South America, but once the dogs showed up the movie went downhill fast and completely lost my interest.

I really hope Disney gets the credit they deserve for bringing back traditional animation (and doing so brilliantly.)

pap64 · Post by **pap64** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:35 am

While I agree that the movie becomes more action oriented once they reach South America its not as bad as in Wall-E where the movie became a full blown comedy. There were still many moments of poignancy and character development. Its where both Carl learns to accept that life goes on and Russell learns to become the explorer he always dreamed. It all works up to a great finale.

I saw Princess and the Frog and while I thought it was a great movie as well I agree with dvdjunkie in that the story isn't as satisfying as in Up (again, personal opinion). The movie's problem is that the pace was too fast. All of the film's major events happen to quickly and its over before you know it.

I think the film could have reached Up like poignancy if it had taken its time and spend it with the characters, making us see them in their every day lives, have more heartwarming moments and establish an even deeper emotional connection. Just like Carl had Ellie Tiana had her father. Give us more of that, then maybe Up would have had a serious contender.

Don't kill me over my opinions, folks.

JDCB1986 · Post by **JDCB1986** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:51 am

pap64 wrote:While I agree that the movie becomes more action oriented once they reach South America its not as bad as in Wall-E where the movie became a full blown comedy. There were still many moments of poignancy and character development. Its where both Carl learns to accept that life goes on and Russell learns to become the explorer he always dreamed. It all works up to a great finale.

I saw Princess and the Frog and while I thought it was a great movie as well I agree with dvdjunkie in that the story isn't as satisfying as in Up (again, personal opinion). The movie's problem is that the pace was too fast. All of the film's major events happen to quickly and its over before you know it.

I think the film could have reached Up like poignancy if it had taken its time and spend it with the characters, making us see them in their every day lives, have more heartwarming moments and establish an even deeper emotional connection. Just like Carl had Ellie Tiana had her father. Give us more of that, then maybe Up would have had a serious contender.

Don't kill me over my opinions, folks.

I find it interesting how many people have been saying how rushed the end of TPATF felt, I didn't get that feeling at all. I think if you go back and look at many of Disney's adaptations of fairy tales though, you will find the third act moves a lot faster than the first two.

Look at Snow White... the first two acts are ridiculously slow moving and then in the last 20 minutes the queen changes to a hag, tricks Snow White, gets killed by a boulder, the dwarfs weap, the prince saves Snow White and they marry and ride off to their happily ever after.

I feel like that is just the way fairy tales work, you know good will defeat evil, so what is the point in dragging the ending out any longer than it needs to be ?

As for Up, I guess it truly is a matter of which you connect with more, I personally found TPATF to be much more emotionally stimulating than Up (which, with the exception of one scene at the beginning and one at the end, didn't make me feel much at all.)

Sidenote: completely disagree with you about WALL•E (Pixar's masterpiece in my opinion,) but I guess that is the fun in having opinions

pap64 · Post by **pap64** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:03 am

As an FYI, I love all of the Pixar films and think they are great. The only movie I personally don't care for is A Bug's Life. Everything else is gold for me. Just saying that each film has its weaknesses, but the strength overpowers everything else. For Wall-E is that it abandons its silent film aura for a more familiar comedy.

I think they suffer from the common middle of the film syndrome, where you have a great beginning and a fantastic ending, but the middle is not as great. Its definitely hard to write a second act, being a writer myself.

ajmrowland · Post by **ajmrowland** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:13 am

MadonnasManOne wrote:
akhenaten wrote:up looks intelligent but it actually contains a simpler plot than patf. it felt like one of them best picture wannabes,all glossed up.
That is ridiculous, dahling! UP isn't a "best picture wannabe". It's an excellent film, worthy of Best Picture status! The reviews and the returns don't lie.

fix'd

a-net-fan · Post by **a-net-fan** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:37 am

I REALLY loved both movies but my choice was obvious. After seeing up I was excited and so glad I had seen it. AFter seeing Princess and the Frog ....I couldnt wait to see it again! There arent many movies I have seen more then once in the theater and Princess and the Frog is one of those few. Thats my honest reaction and why I voted for Princess and the Frog. Im surprised that people who havent even seen PATF even voted..... PATF deserves a chance. Believe me I would have never guessed I would have voted on this the way I did until I had seen it for myself.

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:27 pm

ajmrowland wrote:
MadonnasManOne wrote: That is ridiculous, dahling! UP isn't a "best picture wannabe". It's an excellent film, worthy of Best Picture status! The reviews and the returns don't lie.
fix'd

For awhile I couldn't figure out what was "wrong" with the post before it was fixed. Then I realized MMO's avatar is Edna Mode!

albert

MadonnasManOne · Post by **MadonnasManOne** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:23 pm

Escapay wrote: For awhile I couldn't figure out what was "wrong" with the post before it was fixed. Then I realized MMO's avatar is Edna Mode!

albert

That's correct, dahling! I should have said that in the first place! LOL!

Disney's Divinity · Post by **Disney's Divinity** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:24 pm

JDCB1986 wrote:
I find it interesting how many people have been saying how rushed the end of TPATF felt, I didn't get that feeling at all.

I agree. People keep complaining about pacing, yet I only remember maybe 2 scenes that felt like they were too "quick." Most of the complaints don't seem to be universal.

I have to admit I haven't seen Up, so I can't give an honest opinion here (thus I didn't vote). However, I've never had an affinity towards Pixar films. I don't think of them as devilspawn, but I've never really had the urge to watch them more than once. However, I thought since the early stages that Up looked like a unique film because it centered on an elderly man. How many mainstream animated films have had an old character as the protagonist? Of course, this doesn't guarantee quality. I also thought WALL E sounded fabulous in concept but ended up disliking it quite a bit.

Regardless, I can't help but think that the "uniqueness" of this film, combined with the world's seemingly obsessive love for all things Pixar and apparent disdain for all things Disney, will guarantee Up the awards.

And, sorry, I can't help but

when someone plays the "critics and money don't lie" routine.

MadonnasManOne · Post by **MadonnasManOne** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:35 am

Disney's Divinity wrote: Regardless, I can't help but think that the "uniqueness" of this film, combined with the world's seemingly obsessive love for all things Pixar and apparent disdain for all things Disney, will guarantee Up the awards.

And, sorry, I can't help but when someone plays the "critics and money don't lie" routine.

to you, as well. First of all, I said reviews, which means more than just the reviews of the media critics. Audiences of all walks of life loved the film, and spent their money to see it. Sometimes numerous times. So, you can roll your eyes all you want, but the fact is, you haven't even seen the film, and have an apparent dislike of Pixar. So, you are not going to be objective about it, at all.

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Two amazing Disney offerings are both up for the same award. Only one can win. Who would you vote for???