Episode 3: Revenge of the Gays, Are You One Too?

[Margos]

The TV is on downstairs in my house, and I just heard some news anchor guy say "And, in entertainment news, Adam Lambert's racy performance at the AMAs cost him big time. Find out more at 11."


Anyone else have a funny feeling that the media is never going to leave this alone. Think in 40 years we'll all remember this during Gay History Month?

[Flanger-Hanger]

Gay History Month? Hope it ends up begin in June, just makes so much sense to have it then.

[Margos]

Gay History Month? Hope it ends up begin in June, just makes so much sense to have it then.

Well, speaking as a mulatto, I'm not new to the "minority process." Once they stop treating you like dirt, you get your own month. That's just how it works in the good ol' U-S-and-A.
But oh yes, I can see how June makes perfect sense....

[ajmrowland]

And August will be bi-sexual history Month, and April will be Nudist History Month, or something like that.

You know what's also pretty common amongst minorities? They're also very often right(except maybe some specific religious groups).

[pap64]

And August will be bi-sexual history Month, and April will be Nudist History Month, or something like that.

You know what's also pretty common amongst minorities? They're also very often right(except maybe some specific religious groups).

Right in what terms? Right in the political sense, or right in that we speak in correct terms?

Oh and we Puertoricans claims the whole year as Puertorican Appreciation Year. Yes, we aren't comfortable with just a month .

[ajmrowland]

Right in a political sense, or the fact that most of those people seem to have sense.

[Margos]

*gasp* August will be bi history month!? August is my birth month! Hooray! Double happy!

And I hear you ajmrowland, that's pretty much the truth. People in the majorities tend to get too comfortable in their status quo and ignore the truth, just so they have someone to look down upon.

[Lazario]

Warning: maybe one or two naughty words.

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No, I didn't decide to post this because it's fabulous or anything special... But GOD are some of these lyrics hilarious!

"I like to eat Brillo pads, that's how I got this voice" - I'm gonna be laughing at that into next year.

What this seems to be is not so much a parody of Lady Gaga, but of all silly pop songs that use fake words and have campy theatrics and over-the-top costumes. So the humor basically is in, if these accusations in the lyrics were true of any artists- it would be very funny. But still, there's some great stuff here. "Sometimes we like to sing like we are underwater."

[Margos]

I quit like 20 seconds into that. I'm sick and tired of people picking on Lady GaGa. Not to mention the fact that it was hard to listen to anyway....

[Tomorrowland Man]

The TV is on downstairs in my house, and I just heard some news anchor guy say "And, in entertainment news, Adam Lambert's racy performance at the AMAs cost him big time. Find out more at 11."


Anyone else have a funny feeling that the media is never going to leave this alone. Think in 40 years we'll all remember this during Gay History Month?

I'm hopeful that Lambert will go the way of Sinead O'Connor and just disappear. I'm gay and despise him and the way my gay friends shove the guy down my throat. His screaming gives me an earache and I applauded when Kris Allen won American Idol.

[Margos]

Personally, I thought that Chris Allen was just kind of bland and 90s-boy-band-y. I preferred Adam, but that's because I tend to prefer rock over pop (Gaga being the one exception).

[Goliath]

Bad news from New York:

New York senate rejects gay marriage bill

Lawmakers in New York state have rejected a bill that would have granted marriage rights to gay couples.

The state's senate voted against the legislation by 38 votes to 24. Several Democrats opposed the measure.

The bill legalising same-sex marriage had earlier passed easily in the heavily Democratic state assembly.

Gay rights activists had hoped New York would join Connecticut, Massachusetts, Iowa, New Hampshire and Vermont in legalising gay unions.

Gay marriage is a controversial issue in the US, where many states have statutes banning same-sex unions.

Voters in Maine repealed their state law legalising gay marriage only last month. And last year, Californians also overturned an earlier decision by the state's Supreme Court to allow gay couples to wed.

The Democratic governor of New York, David Paterson, had supported the bill, saying he would sign it if the senate were to pass it.

Gay rights activists will now turn their attention to New Jersey, where they hope to push through legislation allowing same-sex unions before Democratic Governor Jon Corzine - who supports the law - leaves office.

He will hand over to Republican Chris Christie, who opposes the legislation.

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8392046.stm

[Tomorrowland Man]

Personally, I thought that Chris Allen was just kind of bland and 90s-boy-band-y. I preferred Adam, but that's because I tend to prefer rock over pop (Gaga being the one exception).

Sounds more like screeching if you ask me.

[Margos]

Oh no! That's horrible! (Not you, Tommorowland Man, I disagree with you, but you are entitled to your opinion).
Oh... my god. Every time a state does something like that, it makes me seriously sick. I have had it up to here with ignorance and intolerance, and I just wonder how those horrid, horrid people in the state legislatures that pull shit like this sleep at night. Why are they so afraid of people who are in love? Are they that miserable and bitter about their own lives that they can't stand to see people happy!?

[Lazario]

Warning: a little bad language. Sorry, kids.

I quit like 20 seconds into that. I'm sick and tired of people picking on Lady GaGa. Not to mention the fact that it was hard to listen to anyway....

Ha, well you're right that a lot of people do pick on Lady Gaga. But, I really still think that this is a parody of pop music as a genre. Which, we all need to take in good humor. And not be outraged by. I mean, if any part of this could be taken as critical of women or gay men, than the joke is on these guys. Because they really make utter fools of themselves. But honestly- this is in good humor. It's not really about Lady Gaga. She's dressed like her but that's where the similarity ends. They obviously didn't bother to listen to many of her songs at all. That's one of the reasons it's so funny. They got quite creative with this little project; it's well-produced and they have a good budget. MadTV probably couldn't have done better. Especially after I saw their Britney Spears "Not a Girl, Not Yet a Woman" parody- which was 90% pure stupid. This parody is... digging at something. It's kind of like they're going after everyone who was ever a weird or different or eccentric figure in international pop music. Like...oh: Gwen Stefani, Aqua, Alanis Morissette, Peaches, Bjork, George Michael, Rihanna, Jonny McGovern / "The Gay Pimp," Missy Elliot (oh...and one lyric sounds like it's describing Angelina Jolie). There have been a lot of very strange music videos and songs done in pop over the years, haven't there? Lady Gaga just happens to have peaked a bit soon in how many strange things go on in her world.

Well, for an encore, and since you said you don't want to listen to it... HERE ARE THE LYRICS! :

Lady Gaga
and Lord Gaga

It's the future and everything is weird
Check out this guy, he's got a metal beard
I give good headache, I'll make you scream
Is this reality or just a fever dream?
I like to jerk and twitch, this is how I dance
It's cold in here; may I please put on some pants?

NO!
Chic freak sista fierce, work those bitchy gams
Those were just some words that only gay men understand
Blah blah blah, w'oo hoo hee- everybody look at me
Random stuff, random stuff- tell me: have you had enough?

If I love you and you love me
then, baby, how can we go wrong?
This chorus doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the song
Completely unrelated

I'm Lady Gaga
and I'm Lord Gaga
Sometimes we like to sing like we are underwater
You think you're weird, girl, but I'm weirder than you
Let me tell you of the weird things that I like to do
Yesterday, I went to church and made out with a nun- oh!
Then I went up to the roof and stared into the sun- OUCH!

That is pretty weird but I think I got you beat
I like to wear bathing suits made out of raw meat
I put on a tuxedo before I go to bed
I send out Birthday cards to people who are dead
I like to eat Brillo pads, that's how I got this voice
Sometimes I like to cut myself but it's a fashion choice

If I love you and you love me
then, baby, how can we go wrong?
We're totally making this shit up as we go along
I mighta overdone it

I quit like 20 seconds into that.

Just one more thing that I can't resist tellin' ya...

When I first decided to check out Lady Gaga, on YouTube, back in like April or March... I quit "Poker Face" maybe 40 seconds into it. The girl makes a terrible first impression.

Bad news from New York:

New York senate rejects gay marriage bill

Lawmakers in New York state have rejected a bill that would have granted marriage rights to gay couples.

The state's senate voted against the legislation by 38 votes to 24. Several Democrats opposed the measure.

The bill legalising same-sex marriage had earlier passed easily in the heavily Democratic state assembly.

Gay rights activists had hoped New York would join Connecticut, Massachusetts, Iowa, New Hampshire and Vermont in legalising gay unions.

Gay marriage is a controversial issue in the US, where many states have statutes banning same-sex unions.

Voters in Maine repealed their state law legalising gay marriage only last month. And last year, Californians also overturned an earlier decision by the state's Supreme Court to allow gay couples to wed.

The Democratic governor of New York, David Paterson, had supported the bill, saying he would sign it if the senate were to pass it.

Gay rights activists will now turn their attention to New Jersey, where they hope to push through legislation allowing same-sex unions before Democratic Governor Jon Corzine - who supports the law - leaves office.

He will hand over to Republican Chris Christie, who opposes the legislation.

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8392046.stm

No surprise there. I'm sure years ago when I started squawking here about how fucked up things were for gay rights in America that people thought I was just being negative. And things were really changing out there... Well this last year has been rock solid proof that I was right all along. Things are not changing, nothing is being done. No, I don't consider that bill Obama recently signed to be all that historic. That's the tiniest step, if a step at all forward, for a hundred steps back that happen every month when another state shuts down the possibility of legalizing gay marriage. And as a result, we get more controversy and scandals. Perez Hilton calls a famous black man a "faggot" - yet the Christian Right thinks we nominated him some kind of spokesperson for our opinions and beliefs when all he is (much like Chris Crocker) is just another result of Freedom of Speech, which as we all know has its' ugly side too. Or, the whole "Miss California" disaster. Or, the most recent bit of nastiness: The Manhattan Declaration.

[Margos]

*gasp* Lady Gaga is a wonderful singer, songwriter, and human being. She makes a positively stunning first impresssion, as she has a beautiful voice, interesting videos, and is very attractive. I just find it sad that people who create "pop" music are mocked for being eccentric or different, and goes to show why Lady Gaga is the ONLY pop artist I listen to. I'm a rocker chick all the way, and in that genre, differences and eccentricities are celebrated, not cut down by all the bitchy cheerleaders that just wish that they had the guts to break the mold, too.

Oh, and unrelatedly..... I came out to my mom.... And she's fine with it! Much celebrations!

[Lazario]

*gasp* Lady Gaga is a wonderful singer, songwriter, and human being. She makes a positively stunning first impresssion, as she has a beautiful voice, interesting videos, and is very attractive. I just find it sad that people who create "pop" music are mocked for being eccentric or different, and goes to show why Lady Gaga is the ONLY pop artist I listen to. I'm a rocker chick all the way, and in that genre, differences and eccentricities are celebrated, not cut down by all the bitchy cheerleaders that just wish that they had the guts to break the mold, too.

Margos - calm down a wee bit. I like her too. I'm not criticizing her. I'm merely sharing a personal observation from someone who is often critical of everyone in the public light. So I think I speak from somewhere in the middle of the current storm of rumors and differing opinion. Since her Fame was made from the onslaught of 2 of her weakest efforts, "Lovegame" and "Poker Face," it's worth noting that she comes off like a silly tramp in those videos. Lyrics like "I wanna take a ride on your disco stick" have branded her a whore and a pop tart with the rock crowd. Nothing will change that in their minds. And her interviews on TV and with journalists haven't helped out much. She talks like an idiot, rambles about "sex," and never even stumbles into anything interesting. Slant Magazine kinda branded her as a cross between Madonna and Marilyn Manson on their review for The Fame Monster. And in terms of style, that's fair. However, both of those pop figures are highly intelligent people who had something to say about the world and not just themselves. All Gaga is about is herself. That does nothing to help guide our culture away from empty-headed extreme selfishness: the rut we've been stuck in the last decade.

Anyway, you don't need to sell me on liking her. I do. I know she's talented and beautiful. But, I'd rather concentrate on what is not so damn shallow and materialistic. Somehow. Her sound is going down in the history books of pop music. Musically: she has tapped into a feeling of freedom and power of dance as healing mechanism. She's a force to be reckoned with. But let's not get carried away with her Fame or her Monster. She doesn't need anymore praising or publicity - she was her own publicity machine wasn't she? The Fame is a statement: "I'm famous just because I called myself famous. Look at me." We can only take her seriously when we forget what she's saying: nothing profound. Calling your album The Fame does in fact clash with the nobility of saying things like "isn't it a shame we live for the fame"? Gaga lives for the fame of telling everyone she's famous.

It sounds to me like you may be lacking a sense of humor on this. It's pretty damn funny.

[Flanger-Hanger]

She doesn't need anymore praising or publicity - she was her own publicity machine wasn't she? The Fame is a statement: "I'm famous just because I called myself famous. Look at me." We can only take her seriously when we forget what she's saying: nothing profound. Calling your album The Fame does in fact clash with the nobility of saying things like "isn't a shame we live for the fame"? Gaga lives for the fame of telling everyone she's famous.

It sounds to me like you may be lacking a sense of humor on this. It's pretty damn funny.

It is funny and upsetting how IMO she's America's greatest attention whore who seems to do everything but develop a singing talent to forward her image and advertise herself.

I cant stand her music having listened to her and other who make up "America's Top 40" on Virgin Radio 3 days a week for over 2 months now (not that I even liked it the first time).

As for no Gay Marriage in New York I'd like to know what horrible things would happen to the average person if it were to go through. Oh ya, NOTHING.

[SpringHeelJack]

...I'm so glad I know other people who don't care for Lady Gaga. I never got her, nor have I ever found her music to be anything particularly special. You listen to some people, it's like she's the second coming or something.

[Lazario]

...I'm so glad I know other people who don't care for Lady Gaga. I never got her, nor have I ever found her music to be anything particularly special. You listen to some people, it's like she's the second coming or something.

No, SHJ, I'm trying to show how someone can feel 2 ways about something. I do like her performing abilities. I like her talent. I like her voice. I like the production quality of her songs, her beats, her flamboyance. I just don't think that she's got the intelligence to be a full fledged pop icon. Not where it counts. At best- what she is is a "love machine" without breaks. I haven't heard or seen her say or do a single thing out of dislike or distaste. All she ever says are "nice" things. She loves sex, she loves gay people, she loves music, she loves being on talk shows, she loves talking, she loves comedy, she loves candy, she loves clothing. She "loves" everything. But all that considered, I haven't seen her say much. I still think she talks like a babydoll brat, when she's obviously got a lot more to her.

It is funny and upsetting how IMO she's America's greatest attention whore who seems to do everything but develop a singing talent to forward her image and advertise herself.

Flang- that's the one thing about her I've never questioned. She can sing. She can sing the house down. Her SNL piano medley proved that beyond the shadow of a doubt. The high quality versions have been taken down. But here's one of "Poker Face" from a different session. I like this one because at one point, she plays the piano with her feet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laIr_d0hFB8