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Cordy_Biddle wrote:In preparation of the Gone with the Wind Blu-ray (which should be arriving in the mail any day now), I've been on a real Vivien Leigh bent...
You gonna watch "Streetcar?" We just watched it in my AP Literature class, and it was amazing!

Oh, and on the "Lady and the Tramp" note, did you know she was also Darling?
I haven't watched "Streetcar" in a while, actually. If you love Ms Leigh I also recommend "Caesar and Cleopatra", "Waterloo Bridge", "That Hamilton Woman" and "Ship of Fools". :)
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The Count of Monte Cristo (2002) 7.5/10 - classic revenge story and what sweet revenge it is. I've never read the novel, so I can't comment on what was changed, but I have a feeling it drifts off from the original literature. I hadn't seen this movie in about 7 years and it was basically like watching many parts for the first time. I had fun all the way through. Nothing was stand out and the end is a little too happy but its a good movie worth watching.

There Will Be Blood (2007) 5.5/10 - way overrated. Daniel Day-Lewis acting is great and the silent opening 15 mins is fantastic. Unfortunately after the opening bit, it falls apart, and really dragged. I was half asleep all the way to the end where I was wide awake during the credits. I kept waiting for something to happen, something to make his story one worth telling, but it just never came. I also didn't like the film score. I was really disappointed with this one and can't figure why the critics are so in love with it. I guess they were just happy to see this Paul Anderson doesn't make movies as bad as the other Paul Anderson.
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The Spirit

Now, despite being a (lapsed) "Marvel Zombie" and dabbling with other comic book publishers and universes, I only have a basic understanding of The Spirit in comic book form. I am however aware of the basics and how influential the creation and his creator Will Eisner were (and indeed, still are - lots of modern comic book creators still list Eisner as a major influence).

So I didn't really go into The Spirit with any preconceptions apart from (nominally) it should be good. I say nominally, because obviously I have heard all the negative buzz about the movie since it was first released. But deep down, I still had hope in my heart it would be a decent movie.

And... I sort of think it was. The Spirit clearly has problems, but what we do get is a superb feeling of watching a comic book play out on screen. It's a hyper-reality defined by shadows and splashes of colour, a city and world which doesn't exist and couldn't exist. There no real attempt to make the people or places feel "real". While The Spirit's city may resemble Burton's Gotham City, there's even less of an attempt to make it seem like a living, working, functioning city. It's simply a backdrop for the comic book inspired hi-jinks throughout the film. Its a nowhere place at a nowhere time.

I think The Spirit should be commended for its artistic presentation. At times, this was absolutely superb - like Lynch, Miller as a director seems to be able to paint images from his mind directly onto the film itself - even if in the case of The Spirit heavily post processing and CGI is involved. I think it should also be commended for being brave enough to wear its comic book origins on its sleeve. There is - as far as I can see - no desire or attempt to present the story as a film, rather it plays out like a somewhat dated (say mid-70s) comic book. To viewers who love comic books it plays fine, but I suspect to viewers expecting a movie-like experience it appears disjointed and a mess.

But (there's always a but isn't there?) it has faults beyond its pure and simple "comic book on screen" approach.

Firstly, while I'm no expert on The Spirit and haven't seen any of the supplements yet (which will presumably address all or some of these issues) this doesn't feel like a Spirit story to me. Frequently while watching the film I noticed images, techniques and characters which seemed pure Frank Miller. I didn't see anything which made me think of Will Eisner. The film was almost like a toned down version of Sin City. The processed black and white imagery re-enforced this idea, as did the perpetual snow and rain. But the characters and story seemed to be somewhat Sin City-ish. All of the women for example seemed particularly "Milleresque".

I'm not sure, but I think all of the women's names are existing characters in the Spirit's canon. But if they are existing characters, I don't see them being quite as Miller wrote and visualised them.

Personally, I associate the Spirit with bright colours - the Spirit's coat was bright blue for example. I suspect this was down to newspaper colouring of the time (just like the strong colours of Dick Tracy) but that's what I would expect a Spirit film to look like. I would expect it to be brighter and look more like a celebration of the character than what we got.

Finally, as much as I was enjoying the ride (and I was) part of me still got fidgety and I confess to checking out how far into the film I was at a number of points. I can't quite analyse why this should be, but somehow the pacing of the film seemed wrong. I suspect this is down to (as I said) the film being more like a comic strip than a true film with normal film conventions.
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Watched the Tori Spelling Christmas tv-movie, A Carol Christmas, and not surprisingly: it stunk. Most made-for-tv Christmas movies are kind of hokey. This one was just absurd. Even as a villain, Tori Spelling can't find her inner-bitch. Probably one of the reasons people make fun of her so much. Her good sense of humor about her public image has turned south a bit, and now all her projects are completely without awareness of their own mediocrity. I should probably say: Kudos for the fact that now her new shows and movies get more media attention thanks to the success of Tori & Dean. But instead, I'm starting to feel sorry for her again. Too many celebrities mistake amount of attention for amount of success. Anyway- William Shatner was surprisingly likable here, Gary Coleman was at his least angry, and Dinah Manoff looks incredible. She must be 50 by now but look at those thighs! You'd never know it, she's keeping herself incredibly well-toned and for the movie's token hag character, she dials it down a lot. Which, with a voice like she's got, isn't necessarily a plus. On the downside...where to begin, Holmes Osborne (Donnie Darko, Crazy in Alabama) is underused in a flat cliched role that lacks menace and switches at the end to a "heart of gold" revelation. Huh? Tori Spelling's performance is completely unbelievable- her anger lacked motivation and psyche, and her pampered Princess turned would-be nasty bitch is the same "lovable" pampered Princess she was in the "Accomodating" episode of So NoTorious. So...it makes sense that Satan would want to steal her soul- she uses too much makeup. :roll: For some reason I was further distracted by how radical it seems to put Tori Spelling in a romantic relationship with a charity worker guy. Though all things considered, that's the least of things that are wrong with this movie.

I haven't even gotten to the downtrodden assistant who lives in a small apartment that Tori confuses for a crackhouse. I get it- she's supposed to be Tiny Tim... or is Tiny Tim the kid from the assistant guy? I don't know. She's supposed to be the assistant guy from the classic fairy tale but because she's a woman and she can't afford anything (nice earrings, by the way :twisted: ) for her family and has a guy boyfriend whatever who has the money to support them but she won't take it... She of course is not too proud to take bigtime moola from Tori (what in the end must have amounted to over a hundred thousand dollars = travel expenses, legal fees, the raise, the Christmas bonus, the rest of the wallet cash, and the money she paid her back for the Christmas presents for her sister's kids). Oh, and speaking of the Tiny Tim-woman's boyfriend guy - this brings up my next point of contention: Tori's transformation into a Saint. This should be the believable part, right? But, she's giving the same performance that she has throughout the whole film (which, not to derail further from what I'm talking about here but, I can't tell what her worst moment is, maybe you can help: her trying to engage the Ghost of Christmas Future in conversation in the limosine when she couldn't give a rotten fig if anyone talked to her or trying to beg same Ghost for mercy as he buries her alive in a coffin). You know who isn't giving the same? Her co-workers at the TV station. For some reason, while she is being the evil cretin that makes Gary Coleman tell her she's going to Hell, all her assistants are constantly being nice and giving her the benefit of the doubt. Suddenly, when she wakes up and goes "It's not too late" (you know the story? Then you know the part), everyone around her snaps into treating her like she is the Anti-Christ.

Anyway, some of the cast weren't so bad and the section going back into Tori's past is actually not entirely unwatchable. Thanks to the genuinely romantic performance from... Token Lifetime-y "Dreamboat" Hunk Guy. They're all the same. Switch one out, put another in- it's all the same. Skip this and watch the one with Shannen Doherty as a cat-burglar. That was infinitely better.

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Is it wrong for me to say a movie like this to come out in 2000 is outdated and too old-fashioned? Well, find me a woman who actually enjoyed this, and I'll lie and tell you this isn't a shockingly brainless movie. Okay, I'm sure you all know this already but here we go: there are these 4 guys who are real "mans' men" I guess, they go huntin' shootin' fishin' kinda thing and talk in Southern drawls although I don't think they're really from the south any of them. And they all know or are married-to or meet througout the course of this movie all the women that you see on the cover of the video box. Oh, and a couple more who didn't make it - like Janine Turner from Lifetime's Strong Medicine. Now... all the women you see are extreme stereotypes and completely clueless about any and everything. Which drives Richard Gere, who plays a Woman Worshipper type who is overly flattering to women, to become desperate to get away from all women altogether. Leading to what is probably the most embarrassing ending from a serious mainstream film director of all-time: he grows so tired of women that he practically orgasms when he delivers the baby of a Mexican woman and... It's a boy. Tell me that's not the most stupid ending you've ever seen. I've seen worse, but not many. Not any that reveal how clueless a director was about the movie they were making.

Every piece of this film's story goes nowhere and the point ends up being: talking. Lots of talking. None of it means anything. After the first 20 minutes, it actually begins to become hypnotic. I started getting into it a little. This is all thanks to Helen Hunt, of course, whose Earthiness and maternal feel to her performance helps to offset all the frigid drunk woman stereotypes, and... yes I'm going to say it: Tara Reid, who everyone makes fun of but, who actually has a great free-spiritedness in this film and knows how to hold your attention. Another plus for the movie: the big wedding sorta-climax is actually incredibly funny! Which makes the betrayal outro of Helen Hunt's character all the more disappointing. I was also shocked by how they managed to keep Kate Hudson from going over-the-top. She's much better in scenes with all the women talking. Those scenes are one of the film's major weaknesses, especially since Tara Reid's surprisingly cool character gets lost in the sea and Helen Hunt even ends up sitting in his waiting room.
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Cordy_Biddle wrote:
It is a wonderful film. Peggy Lee's songs add a great deal to the whimsy and heart of the story, too. Did you know she provided the voices for Si and Am, as well as Peg? :)
I saw that on the Making Of documentary. I have to say that I liked this one a lot. Did you know that at first Walt Disney didn't like the spaghetti scene? :shock: The animator had to prove him wrong by adding the part where they kiss through the noodle. I liked the part where they talked about how they adapted the dog's normal movements and behaviors into the film, such as Tramp's running and Lady's curiosity. And of course they discussed how Walt made it into a kind of inspriration of his home town of Marceline. They really did do a good job.
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I agree. That documentary was much, much better than I assumed it would be.
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Old Yeller

Plot: The father is away on a cattle drive to obtain money, since he only has Confederate money. Soon a dog – a yellow Blackmouth Cur – visits the family uninvited. Travis tries to shoo the dog away, but Arliss immediately takes to it. Their mother intervenes, reasoning that the family could use a good dog. Though Travis initially loathes the "rascal," as he refers to the dog, and tries to get rid of it, Old Yeller eventually proves his worth, saving Travis, Arliss and the family on several occasions. Travis grows to love Old Yeller.


This story made me appericate my dog alot more, I saw some of his traits in Yeller (trying to show off, being protective). The acting was superb especialy Tommy Kirk, Jeff York (Mr. Searcy) defintly stole the show durning his sequence. The bonus feats was a treat too, especialy "Old Yeller: Remembering A Classic", highly impressive, they cover from the story's background/author- Yeller's training.
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Well-acted by Hollywood standards, and... well, it sure looks expensive. But this film is clueless in every way. Before anyone goes to see the film, and I hear it was something of a box office bomb back in '97, they were told it's a "black comedy" or "dark" comedy. If that's supposed to be true, director Griffin Dunne obviously is just flirting with the dark. Because, having Meg Ryan talk about maggots in a dog's butt (and notice how she never swears througout this bafflingly R-rated movie) does not a dark movie make. It's just gross. Notice how after she tells the story and Matthew Broderick retorts with: "don't you know any nice stories?", she smiles her trademark romantic-comedy smile and then the music sets in and we're launched into another dumb sappy scene. This is just an excuse for Meg Ryan to play an edgy character - one with all the honest edge of Avril Lavigne at Ozzfest - and to have perfectly safe scenes of revenge. You know something? Even Alanis Morissette has more edge than Meg Ryan's character and features lyrics in her songs painting a nastier revenge than what we see in this movie. This in fact, reeks of French Kiss deja-vu. Matthew Broderick plays a sweetheart stalker as though movies like Dressed to Kill never happened. And of course, Mrs. John Travolta herself: Kelly Preston, playing another role she wasn't really suited for, with all the panache of her bubble-headed blonde from Tales from the Crypt's "The Switch" episode. I don't know why it's like everyone who hires her hasn't already seen Jerry Maguire or From Dusk Till Dawn. Or Twins. That's where she gives her best performances. When she is minimized. Here, even seeing her face projected on a white wall is agonizing. She doesn't do sweet as pie very well. Sweet as pie makes her look old. As for Meg Ryan, she looks fabulous. But the makeup does all the work here. I guess the reason this gets the R-rating is that the token French "other guy" (and what's up with his whole: "I can't go back to that apartment alone!" thing?) is naked from behind for like 20 seconds onscreen. Didn't seem to hurt Deuce Bigalow: Male Gigolo though, did it?
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Yesterday I watched two AMAZING movies!

From Here to Eternity: When I picked this up at the library, I think that I was thinking that it was The Best Years of Our Lives for some reason (I didn't remember that movie's title), but it turned out not to be, but it was AMAZING. I enjoy historical fiction romance movies, and this did not disappoint at all.

An Affair to Remember: This was on TV right after I finished the previous movie. I missed the first 6 minutes, which were more crucial than I would think they would be. It wasn't hard to understand, but I wasn't quite sure the position of Cary Grant's character. Such an awesome movie, though. I enjoy anything with Cary Grant in it, though.
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The English Patient- I liked it, but was a little confused during parts. So, I guess it wasn't as good as I was hoping, but I still liked it. A-/B+ maybe
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A Christmas Carol (2009) - Actually really good. The lines were spot-on from the original book, and Jim Carrey surprised me... I thought she would put too much comedy into the role, but he voiced the characters well.

New Moon - Better than the first movie by far, but still way overhyped. The actors, for the most part, cannot deliver, and the colors of the movie are still too green.
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National Velvet: One of my favourites. Elizabeth Taylor and Mickey Rooney are exceptional in the leads; Anne Revere is the wise and supportive mother we all wished to have had.

The only downside is Warner's current DVD (single-layered for a 124 minute movie! :shock: ) with tonnes of print damage. Let's hope a Blu-ray is soon in coming so both Taylor and Rooney can participate in the extra features. :)
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Nick & Norah's Infinite Playlist- Wicked cute. I loved it!
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blackcauldron85 wrote:Nick & Norah's Infinite Playlist- Wicked cute. I loved it!
It was unexpectedly charming. Even my younger brother--who hates these sorts of movies--absolutely loved it. :)
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Aladdin- My most favorite Disney movie of them all! :D I love all the characters, animation, music, and charm this wonderful movie presents. My favorite hero, princess, and villain are all Aladdin chraracters, and let's not forget Genie! "A Whole New World" is among my top Disney songs, and my most liked thing about Aladdin is that the characters are fantastic. Aladdin is not your typical prince charming and Jasmine is very independent and definitely not a pushover. Jafar is my favorite villain because he can be menacing and intimidating but also humorous and entertaining without losing his cool way. Genie and Iago never fail to make me chuckle or laugh and Abu is a cute, little sidekick. I also like how it tells a story of the characters' desire for freedom and the need to be yourself. I love it all!
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Yeah, it's definitely in my top 5 Fisney Dilms.
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I finally watched Twilight- I loved it! It was just over 2 hours long, but the time went by so quickly!

*edit* I just watched I'm Reed Fish- I really enjoyed it.
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High Heels and Low Lifes - super fun, but terribly overlooked movie. Movies like this one are a rare breed: small and unpretentious, but you'll be entertained the whole way through. And I do love me some Minnie Driver!
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I just finished watching Bella- It's a movie that I had been interested in seeing after reading about it in Video Business magazine, and while watching it just now, a few scenes seemed familiar, so maybe I caught parts of it on TV or somethng. It was a sweet movie- I liked it.
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blackcauldron85 wrote:I just finished watching Bella- It's a movie that I had been interested in seeing after reading about it in Video Business magazine, and while watching it just now, a few scenes seemed familiar, so maybe I caught parts of it on TV or somethng. It was a sweet movie- I liked it.
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