Best Animated Feature Oscar: Rank Past Winners, Talk 2009

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There are currently 15 movies believed eligible for the category:
• "Astro Boy," based on the 1960s TV cartoon series;
• "Battle for Terra," a CGI saga of intergalactic war;
• "A Christmas Carol," a 3-D rendition of the Charles Dickens tale from the director of "The Polar Express," using performance capture to re-animate Jim Carrey;
• "Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs," a popular 3-D comedy combining science with giant foodstuffs;
• "Coraline," a 3-D stop-motion of Neil Gaiman's fantasy/horror tale;
• "Fantastic Mr. Fox," a purposefully retro-looking stop-motion telling of Roald Dahl's charming tale;
• "Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs," the third of the computer-animated prehistoric comedies;
• "Mary and Max," a claymation feature from Australia about pen pals;
• "Monsters vs. Aliens," another 3-D sci-fi action flick;
• "9," Shane Acker's post-apocalyptic fable;
• "Planet 51," a CGI sci-fi comedy set on a world eerily similar to 1950s suburbia;
• "Ponyo," about a young boy's friendship with a "goldfish princess," from Japanese director Hayao Miyazaki (an Oscar-winner for "Spirited Away");
• The hand-drawn Disney musical "The Princess and the Frog," featuring songs by Randy Newman;
• "Tinker Bell and the Lost Treasure," which reveals how Pixies make their magic dust; and
• "Up," Pixar's 3-D adventure and one of the most critically-acclaimed films of the year.
That's right, <i>Tinker Bell and the Lost Treasure</i> had a one-week run to help raise the number of eligible films to 16, which would then require five nominees for the category. One more film needs to come forth by the November 2 deadline. I'd say eight of these 15 have a legitimate shot at claiming a nomination. Hopefully there will be 5 nominees so only a few get shut out.
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Personally, I would have to say:
1. WALL-E
2. The Incredibles
3. Ratatouille
4. Finding Nemo
5. Spirited Away
6. Wallace & Gromit in The Curse of the Were-Rabbit
7. Shrek
8. Happy Feet

I think "Up" has the best chance of winning, unless TPatF can be all that it promises and more. And even then, yes, the academy does love them some Pixar, and with "Up" being just so darn good....
I'm sorry, but none of the other studios' films looked very good this year. And I wouldn't expect Tink to be nominated, even if it did have a limited theatrical run, because I somehow doubt that the academy would give it much consideration. (I thought it was very good, but I certainly wouldn't give it the award over "Up." Or TPatF, just judging from how good that looks so far.)
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Twenty films were submitted for the category by the deadline:

"Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel"
"Astro Boy"
"Battle for Terra"
"Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs"
"Coraline"
"Disney's A Christmas Carol"
"The Dolphin - Story of a Dreamer"
"Fantastic Mr. Fox"
"Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs"
"Mary and Max"
"The Missing Lynx"
"Monsters vs. Aliens"
"9"
"Planet 51"
"Ponyo"
"The Princess and the Frog"
"The Secret of Kells"
"Tinker Bell and the Lost Treasure"
"A Town Called Panic"
"Up"

As long as sixteen of them are considered eligible, we'll have a 5-nominee category this year. :up:

I predict the nominees will be five of the following six:
<i>Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs</i>
<i>Coraline</i>
<i>Fantastic Mr. Fox</i>
<i>Mary and Max</i>
<i>The Princess and the Frog</i>
<i>Up</i>

It seems a bit unlikely that three of the five would be stop-motion, so maybe <i>Mr. Fox</i> won't make the cut.
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Personally, I think Up, The Princess and the Frog, Coraline and Ponyo are pretty much shoe-ins. With Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, Mary & Max and Fantastic Mr Fox competing for the final spot.
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I somehow forgot <i>Ponyo</i>... I'm not sure it's a shoe-in, but it has as good a chance of making the cut as most of the other six I've posted (maybe even better than <i>Princess and the Frog</i>). I guess I could see <i>Coraline</i> maybe getting forgotten too, a casualty of the Academy's limited memory.
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I'd hate to see Coraline not to be recognized as it's my favorite movie released this year from what I've seen and it had such a good critical reception.

I'll also agree with estefan's predictions.
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There's going to total a very wide range of potential contenders. about 20 films have/are being submitted to the Academy.

And I'm all for UP getting a Best Picture nod. There's loads of buzz about it.
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Oh, the Academy will eat up that opening montauge scene like candy. If "Up" doesn't get a best picture nod, it could arguably be considered a bigger snub than "WALL-E!" Needless to say, I'm fairly confident that it will win best animated.
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Check out this composite I made of ALL 20 films!

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It really makes you feel great about all the animated films that have come out & will be releasing later this year! I mean seriously, what a strong year it’s been for animation!

I’ve got a feeling it’ll end up going to:

“Coraline”
“UP”
“Ponyo”
“Fantastic Mr.Fox”
“The Princess & The Frog”

GREAT year for Disney, not so much for Dreamworks. :-\ As much as I would LOVE to see Mary & Max or Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs make the list, I just don’t feel the academy would let them overule the 5 that I had mentioned.

A Henry Selick film going unnoticed? Unlikely. Pixar? Locked. Hayao Miyazaki’s newest (whom is also ON the board)? Locked. Disney’s return to form? LOCKED. Fox is the underdog here, let’s be honest…

Though some surprises would be nice, I’d be fine with the list if it were still those five…gosh, FIVE! :-D
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How can Alvin even be campaigned? IT"S NOT ANIMATED!
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ajmrowland wrote:How can Alvin even be campaigned? IT"S NOT ANIMATED!
I guess this is how...but I was wondering the same thing
Academy rules for the category also state that a "significant number of the major characters must be animated, and animation must figure in no less than 75 percent of the picture's running time."
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Makes me wonder why Disney didn't submit G-Force. Going by Academy rules, it's an animated feature.
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estefan wrote:Makes me wonder why Disney didn't submit G-Force. Going by Academy rules, it's an animated feature.
Even if it's animated by "Academy Rules," I don't think that Disney would consider it to be animated. To me, the Academy's rules seem like another way to jip animated features, by giving the possibility that a pseudo-animated movie could potentially take the award. Oh well, at least Alvin has no chance of winning.
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If the category existed back then, do you think Who Framed Roger Rabbit would have been nominated?
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littlefuzzy wrote:If the category existed back then, do you think Who Framed Roger Rabbit would have been nominated?
Hmmm.... I don't know. I guess so, if they do go by their own rules. Plus, I think it would have been the best "animated" film in 1988.
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probably.
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Annie nominations for animated films have been released:
http://www.annieawards.org/consideration.html

The six Best Animated Feature nominees there are: Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs, Coraline, Fantastic Mr. Fox, The Princess and the Frog, The Secret of Kells, and Up. Not that these selections have any bearing on the Academy's picks, but it's interesting to see what's been picked. Oddly, this year's Tinker Bell movie didn't make the 5-nominee Home Entertainment Production category (maybe its theatrical run disqualified it?). <i>Prep and Landing</i> got 9 nominations in the TV categories.

Here are the number of Annie nominations received per film:
Coraline - 10 (Feature, Directing, Character Animation, Character Design x2, Production Design x2, Storyboarding, Music, Voice Acting)
Up - 9 (Feature, Directing, Writing, Effects, Character Animation, Character Design, Music, Storyboarding x2)
Princess and the Frog - 8 (Feature, Effects, Character Animation x3, Production Design, Voice Acting x2)
Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs - 4 (Feature, Directing, Writing, Effects)
Fantastic Mr. Fox - 3 (Feature, Directing, Writing)
Monsters vs. Aliens - 3 (Effects, Storyboarding, Voice Acting)
Astro Boy - 2 (Storyboarding, Writing)
Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs - 2 (Music, Voice Acting)
Ponyo - 2 (Directing, Music)
9 - 2 (Effects, Production Design)
The Secret of Kells - 1 (Feature)
Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel - 0
Battle for Terra - 0
A Christmas Carol - 0
The Dolphin - Story of a Dreamer - 0
Mary and Max - 0
The Missing Lynx - 0
Planet 51 - 0
Tinker Bell and the Lost Treasure - 0
A Town Called Panic - 0
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Good, my two favorite films of the year that I've seen (so far, working on seeing Christmas Carol and PatF) have the most nominations! I don't believe that Cloudy could beat Ponyo for numbers (awards, that is). Speaking of which, why does Ponyo have so little nominations? Up should win everything it has except for maybe effects, I thought Coraline was pretty dazzling. :o
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I'm convinced that the 5 slots will be filled from this short list of seven.

<table border=1><tr><td>Title</td><td>Critical Success?</td><td>Widely-Attended?</td><td>Recently Released?</td><td>Medium</td></tr><tr><td>Up</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>No</td><td>CGI</td></tr><tr><td>The Princess and the Frog</td><td>Yes</td><td>?</td><td>Yes</td><td>2-D</td></tr>
<tr><td>Fantastic Mr. Fox</td><td>Yes</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>Stop-Motion</td></tr><tr><td>Coraline</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>No</td><td>Stop-Motion</td></tr>
<tr><td>Ponyo</td><td>Yes</td><td>No</td><td>No</td><td>2-D</td></tr><tr><td>Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>CGI</td></tr><tr><td>Mary & Max</td><td>Yes</td><td>No</td><td>No</td><td>Stop-Motion</td></tr></table>

One other factor to consider: the industry clout carried by those behind the film. Pixar, Miyazaki, and Disney have obviously been recognized before, but I think the film this gives the most boost to is <i>Fantastic Mr. Fox</i>. And we also have to consider the campaigns the studios will give them. Is Disney really going to want to push <i>Ponyo</i> when a nod would do more for <i>The Princess and the Frog</i>?
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