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I know it would be worth the time but I am still mulling things over. To counsel people legally you must be licensed (with Ph D), could do drug counseling with Master's but I was not an addict and many are recovering. Trying to get into med school will always be in the back of my mind so nursing first may be good because that is still in med field...could do work in psychiatric unit...I really like psychology. Having to decide on what to settle on (And I mean settle, not decide) is a big decision and I want to do it right. Lots to think about.

Let us know how everything goes. I really believe that you could find something (and something good) where you are.
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Does anyone have any advice on making cover letters? I redid my resume in February, and I used some books I have to make it good and I read how to make a good cover letter. After a year of looking, I still have no job.

Yesterday I sent my resume & a cover letter for a job listing I saw, and you had to list 5 strengths & 5 weaknesses, which I did. The listing said that they wanted creative answers, that everyone is a "hard worker". I numbered them as I went along; not like 1. blah, 2. blah blah, 3. blah blah blah, but like blah blah blah (3!), for example...

I'm beyond frustrated at job hunting- I hate it, and I've never really felt this frustrated before (well, I have since I had math classes, I guess), and I just wonder if it's my resume & cover letter that suck, or if I don't have the skills they're looking for (especially with all the experienced job hunters who get laid off), or what the heck my problem is. I haven't even had an interview at all this year. :(
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(This first part is basically my job history...not so much a rant as just blabbing. The important stuff comes after it.)

I typed "Orlando forum job OR employment" into Google and found a forum that I've been reading. Right now I'm reading a thread that started in April 2008 about how the job market in Orlando sucks. No, I wasn't forced to move to Orlando. When I initially wanted out of my parents' house, I just wanted to move in with someone in Massachusetts. Then comes along Bobby who loves Florida since he vacationed here all the time growing up, and that was my way out. I was 19.

Even receptionist jobs or hotel front desk jobs here require 2-5 years of experience. I'm not saying that I'm the smartest person ever, but I had a 3.5 GPA in college (well, 3.4 in my last semester, but shhh!) and I think that I'm a quick learner.

I worked at Burger King when I was 15 for 2 weeks because I was bored, but my stomach issues were too much (working an 8 hour shift when you have a tummyache sucks), so I quit. When I was 16, I started working at the grocery store that I had been applying to for 2 years (I don't remember which, but either during my interview or when I got hired, the manager was shocked that it took them so long to hire me). I worked there right up until I moved when I was 19. I worked a few jobs on the side at times (I wasn't getting the hours I needed at the grocery store, so I worked at Sears...it wasn't cashiering or anything- it was folding towels and things, and supposed to be going in the back room to find merchandise if a customer needed it, although I didn't feel adequately trained in that), and I didn't show up often enough because I didn't like it and had more fun things to do. Bad Amy. And I worked at KFC for a month when the grocery store wasn't giving me good hours...and I also worked for a week (but it was only supposed to be temp. work) helping out at Bobby's brother's then-job.

At the beginning of my senior year of high school, I applied to 2 Massachusetts state schools, and got accepted to both with scholarships. I would only get the scholarship if I was in the honor's program and kept a certain GPA at one school, so I chose the other. Depression, uncertainty, and not wanting to pigeon-hole myself into a certain career path, led me to first changing my major (before school ever started) from Marketing to General Studies (or whatever it was called) and then eventually I decided to not go straight into college.

Then I looked into a community college about 45 minutes away for their nutrition program (since I've always been interested in food and nutrition), but I was never good at math or science, and figured that it might not be for me. Eventually, in Jan. 2004 (I graduated high school in June 2003, so a semester's worth of time had passed), I started at a local community college. Then I had my chance to get out of my parents' house, since Bobby mentioned moving to Florida. He wouldn't have moved without me, though.

And then I went to a community college here, while first cashiering at a book store, then Walt Disney World (I kind of had planned to work both jobs, but due to my stomach, one assistant manager at the bookstore brought me into her office one day and basically said, "Do you want your job?" because I had gotten sick twice while she was the manager on duty, and I was really sad and I quit the next time I was in the store)(I quit WDW due to my stomach, again...and there, it was so time-consuming, not just driving to and from, but having to go into the locker room and change and take the bus and all- it added at least an hour either way), then I worked at another grocery store, but the manager basically hated most of the workers, and it wasn't pleasant, and they would call me on school mornings asking if I could come in to work- it wasn't too professional, so I quit, then I worked at an antique/coin store, and really liked my job- I was doing eBay listing and shipping for them- but the owner creeped me out, and we already were a small company and when a couple employees left, that meant that I'd be more likely to work one-on-one with the owner, and I left, getting a job at another grocery store. I was there for a few months, and I still was having my stomach issues, but it was alright in terms of the higher-ups being nice enough, I guess, but my schedule was getting in the way of schoolwork, so I quit...

Looking back, I think, what if I had just asked my manager to reduce my hours? Just over a year later, I started my internship.

I had a phone interview with one company for an internshp, and I was supposed to come in for a second, in-person, interview. The day after (or soon after, at least) the phone interview, I had an in-person interview at another company, and I got hired on the spot.

So, I was there for a few months, and when the receptionist left, I was told that, in addition to my internship duties (the internship was unpaid, btw), I'd work at the front desk and get paid.

Now, I decided to get an internship not for the school credit, but to give me something to do that had a flexible schedule (apparently I hadn't thought about volunteering at the time), and so I started mid-semester in February, and started getting school credit in May. A few months later, the company folded (and, no, they never paid me for the front desk position, but I never bothered them about it). That was the last time that I was employed. If school credit = employment.

That was in the summer of 2007. I haven't had a paid job since late 2005. Now, I do think, What if I didn't quit the grocery store, but I also think, I wouldn't have had time to do school, grocery store, and internship, so I probably would've quit the grocery store anyway. Marketing company > grocery store. I had nothing to do with the marketing company closing. So, in that sense, I can't feel too bad about quitting the grocery store when I did- I mean, I wasn't going to college to not have time to do my homework and also to rest just because I was working a $7.50 an hour job or whatever. And, I feel that I must say, when we first moved, my paychecks very much helped to pay the bills. But then I guess Bobby got the job he has now, or another good job before that, and my income wasn't as important. Not that I got Bobby's permission before quitting the grocery store.


But there are some lessons to be learned, too.

For all of you younger people:

1. In high school and college, make sure you do extra curricular activities. In high school, I worked on the newspaper all 4 years. I was an editor in my junior and senior years. My first semester of college, I was in a creative writing club, but we didn't meet often and it soon ended due to not many people signing up for it. I should have looked into the newspaper, since I had 4 years of experience under my belt. I was lazy. If I had worked on the newspaper, maybe I would've gotten an internship with a local newspaper or magazine, and would've had better chances at landing a job after college. Don't be lazy. Put the time into it.

2. Try and stick with an employer. If you're in high school or college and need a part-time job, try and stick with it. I mean, if you really can't stand the people you work with, then sure, try and find another job. If you can't stand the hours, at least talk with your manager about working a different shift or working less or more hours, whatever you need. I worked at the grocery store back home for over 3 years. I did work jobs on the side, but I still worked at the grocery store, and if I don't have to, I don't even list those other jobs on applications. Once I moved to Florida, I jumped from job to job to job. I had my reasons (but at the book store, I really should have talked with the head manager, since he was really cool, and if I had just explained that the other manager was rude to me, maybe he could've talked with her and he could've told me that my job was safe). Don't burn bridges. If you quit a job, especially without giving 2 weeks notice, you're burning your bridge. The workers at that store/restaurant/whatever (I won't say company, necessarily, if there are other branches, but maybe they wouldn't hire someone who abandoned the company so hastily in the past) won't say nice things about you. Honestly, try your best to stick with a company for as long as you need that part-time employment (meaning until at least you get an internship, and maybe even then, ask if you can just go on a leave of absence until the internship is over, or maybe just work 1 or 2 days/nights a week). You don't want a reputation for just quitting jobs, and it helps to have the support of your company when you are looking for a post-school job, aka a "real" job, the type of job that you want, that you went to school for. Not only will you have great contacts, companies that you are applying with will see that you have a solid job history. I can't help but wonder if companies that I submit my resume to aren't impressed with my spotty job history. I mean, my resume isn't awful, but it'd be a lot more impressive had I stuck at the grocery store from 2001-2009, you know? I mean, it'd show my loyalty to a company.

3. Don't get married young. Regardless of my feelings about my own marriage, if you're married and your spouse has a good job, you can't just search for jobs around the whole country and just move. I am unable to search for jobs outside of the Central Florida area. And there are not many jobs in the Central Florida area. Even receptionist and hotel front desk positions, as I think I wrote earlier, but maybe I didn't, require 2-5 years experience! I have that much cashering experience, although I haven't cashiered in almost 4 years. The Central Florida job market sucks, and I am not able to apply anywhere in the country. I'm trapped. Which sucks. So, no matter how much you think you love your significant other, I strongly recommend not getting married until you're in a good, stable job. Allow yourself, after you're done with school, to apply around the country, if you so choose. You might not want to relocate, and that's fine, but if you are desperate for a job, then relocation can sometimes be the best option to secure employment. I mean, don't rely on the other person- if you need a job, you do what you need to do to get one...if you have to live across the country from your significant other, then so be it. At least secure employment and then you can job hunt at a later time. I need a job and can't get one due to the crappy economy and the crappy Orlando job market. Maybe the Nebraska job market is better. It's not even worth my time right now to find out, since I'm trapped in Orlando. I don't even want to live here forever. I don't even like it here. I never have. I just like WDW. I just wanted out of my parents' house, and moving here was the only way out at the time.

4. Don't burn your bridges before you should. I should have told the boss at the internship that I got hired for, when he offered me the position, that I have another interview coming up. I don't remember the name of that company, so I can't just look them up to see if they are still in existance, but that company probably would've been a better fit...they seemed more professional. And the lady I had had my phone interview with had worked as an Imagineer (I read her online profile on the company website), and maybe she could've given me some contacts at Disney. I had the mindset of, I got hired, yay, employment, screw the second interview, but I probably should've went on the other interview. In my mind, and part of me feels this way, although I've been told that it's the wrong mindset to have, that if I say no to a job offer, they'll just find someone else who will take it, that there are plenty of other people who aren't much different than I am who could easily do the job. But I guess that's not how it works, or so I've been told. If you are offered employment, they want YOU. But I don't know. But I guess always go on all the interviews you can and then try and get the best offer.

I often think what if. What if I hadn't took time off from college. What if I didn't move. I didn't make the smartest decisions, and now I'm regretful. Although I do love my dogs and never would've met them had I not moved here, nothing "good" has come out of my moving to Florida (except getting to know my family who lives down here better, and, yes, adopting my dogs). Maybe I would've had a job had I stayed in Massachusetts, maybe not. I would've graduated a semester earlier had I not taken a semester off. At the very least, I'd still have a job at the grocery store. Maybe I would've been promoted to front person (they help with any problems that happen up front), which wouldn't be a rise in pay (which everyone got a couple times a year anyway), but it'd be a rise in status.

Anyway, just think before you act. The job market is tough, and for you younger people, maybe it won't be tough when you're ready for a full-time job when you're done with school. But don't just do things unrationally. Really think before you act.

I am so sad about not having a job. I mean, I email myself jobs and often don't apply, since they're not what I want and/or I feel like I have no chance, whether I'm overqualified or underqualified, or I know that I can do the job but no one will hire me because most companies don't believe in on-the-job training.

So, just join clubs when you're in school. Volunteering supposedly looks nice on your resume (I've been doing volunteering on and off for a few years, but I've been doing it regularly since December, and I'm even a Project Coordinator for one organization, which means that I lead groups and fill out paperwork, and really am the manager for those projects, although it's not a paid position). I hear that having volunteering on your resume looks great, but I can't attest to that, since no one will hire me. Don't burn your bridges, try and stay with an employer, and do things to keep busy (clubs and volunteering).

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FINALLY! After a year of trying to land a normal non-film job, I FINALLY have an interview today! Wish me luck, folks. I'll tell you all about it when I get back :)
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Congrats, Chris! Good luck! :pink:
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Good luck; I'm sure you'll do great!
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Well, I got back from the interview not long ago. I got a bit nervous but I think it went well :lol: I hope I hear from them soon!
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xxhplinkxx wrote:FINALLY! After a year of trying to land a normal non-film job, I FINALLY have an interview today! Wish me luck, folks. I'll tell you all about it when I get back :)
Congrats! It's a really tough job market right now. I'm looking for career related work myself - something where I can combine my BBA, marketing diploma, and electronics engineering technology diploma. I briefly found work last year as a Production Manager with a local tech company, but it only lasted 7 weeks thanks to the economic situation (and it was my first job since graduating with my BBA in 2007). I've been looking for career-related work since. Problem is, there is a complete lack of entry-level positions out there right now. In the mean-time, I do have part-time work at a local ski hill where I volunteered for four winter seasons as a Snow Host. I'm currently helping with prepping the ski lifts for the upcoming season, and then this will lead into lift attendant duties for the winter. It doesn't pay much and it's not enough to pay off the student loans, but it's better than nothing.

Club Penguin's head office is here in Kelowna and I've been trying them frequently, but no luck yet.
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So just wanted to let you all know... no job for me. Yay.
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:(

At least they didn't string you along for weeks without knowing...?

But, :(
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Major :( and even a little :cry:
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xxhplinkxx wrote:Major :( and even a little :cry:
Just curios, how many interviews have you had this year? I've had only three local interviews, but I'm trying to relocate to Calgary and so far I haven't had any there. :(
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Although I'm still in high school, I realized that the money from my summer job was not enough since I am basically out. So tonight I applied to Target online. Hopefully I get the job! I need money for Christmas and Black Friday!
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I have a job interview Friday at 1pm! It's with an organization that I've been volunteering through for over a year. The position sort of deals with sales, which I never wanted to get into, but it's nonprofit sales, so it's a bit different. I have to give a presentation during my interview, which is a bit nerve-wracking (I received the guidelines in an email- it's basically presenting what I'd have to if I got the job and was presenting to clients). There are 2 employees currently with the organization. They both like me, and one is really rooting for me (she told me that the boss has reservations because I'm quiet, but this lady believes in me)! I'm going to spend tomorrow working on the presentation. I'm nervous, but at the same time, I know these people and I love the organization and what it does.
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Well, good luck! :)
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Thank you! :)
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So, I had my interview.

Pros:
1. They liked my suit- apparently I clean up well!
2. I asked good questions.
3. They appreciate me (well, he used the word "love") as a volunteer and Project Coordinator.
4. I know that the lady (well, she's only a few years older than I am) that works there is rooting for me to get the job.

Cons:
1. I was a nervous wreck during the presentation portion. I was fine at home in front of my stuffed animals...
2. The boss, even though both he & the lady said that I've come out of my shell in the past year, still sees me as a quiet person (at least before today he did, but he probably still does).
3. I was a nervous wreck during the presentation portion. :p

Part of me doesn't even want the job, since part of it deals with cold calling companies (not the whole job does, just part of it- I'd like some of the other parts). I hope that they find someone (whether or not it's me) who can do a great job, since I do like the company and believe in what they do. They'll be calling people back for "2nd interviews" (in quotes because it'll be actually making phone calls) sometime in the next couple of weeks. Whatever happens, happens. I usually HATE talking to strangers on the phone, especially when I'm the one bothering them, so that part of the position just isn't for me.
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Yesterday I applied to the grocery store & WDW (you apply online now), and today I applied to Universal. I've been officially looking for just under 2 years now. I can't help but think that if I never quit the grocery store down here (which was my last paid job, not counting my internship and volunteer work), that if I just asked for reduced hours for the remainder of the semester, I wouldn't be in this predicament. It sucks that some people won't hire me based on quitting part-time jobs while I was in college. (I feel that former criminals have an easier time of getting a job.) Also, many applications only have room for 5 jobs, and after volunteer work and my internship, there's never any space to put my 3+ years at the grocery store back home, so potential employers don't know that I'm capable of holding a job for more than a few months.

It's a Catch-22, too: I graduated from college, which shows that I indeed can commit to something for many years, but some of the jobs I'm applying to will see that I graduated college and will assume that I'm just applying because I can't get anything "better".

I've never known what I want to do, and now more than ever, I kind of am willing to do, not anything, but minimum wage jobs, as long as the opportunity to move up is there. My life is definitely not what I expected, and I'm going bonkers just sitting at home.

Bobby has a side business, and I help him with that on the weekends, and I added that to my resume & applications, so maybe they'll be impressed that I am currently working, in addition to volunteer work (I put down $8/hr. for that, even though a) I don't know what it really is, because b) I don't actually get a paycheck- Bobby does- I just help him out).

And it's just hard finding jobs that I'm adequately prepared to do. I just want someone to give me a chance. :(

Sorry if any of this was repeated before...I just needed to vent, I guess. I'm just bummed. :(
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I used to volunteer often at a thrift store. Then they closed down, due to something with the organization that ran it.

My friend, who I've known before this, worked in the corporate office of the organization for a little while. And I volunteered there.

Then they closed.

Now that they've repopened through a different organization, my friend is the store manager. And she's the only employee (but there are volunteers). I went to help her a couple days last week, and she keeps saying how she's going to see about getting me hired, since I have a lot of volunteer experience and used to volunteer at the store.

She called yesterday asking if Monday works for me for an interview! She said that she needs to get back to me about what time, though. Yay!!!

Last week I mentioned to my parents & uncle how my friend was trying to see if I could get a job there, and they were like, "That'd be good until you get a real job." I mean, yeah, it wouldn't pay much, probably minimum wage, but why isn't that a "real" job? I mean, if I'd be happy, then why wouldn't it be good? I guess they're implying that someone with a college degree should be making more than minimum wage, but still...I'm excited about it. I enjoy volunteering there, and surely I'll enjoy it more if I'm getting paid!

So, I hope it works out.

And all that about my parents & uncle...it kind of confirmed...I don't know what exactly, but my thought/insecurity that I'm never good enough, which my 2-year job search hasn't helped. So, having my family fan the fire, so to speak, sucks. :(

But, aaaaahhhhh to the interview, since I hate interviews, but I wonder if it'll be with a lady that I've met before, because then maybe it won't be as scary...? Fingers crossed! :)
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So, I got a job at the thrift store. I'm excited, but there hasn't been any paperwork yet, and he said that I can work beyond my hours, basically (meaning free labor) if I want. So, obviously there will be no overtime. I have a meeting at 9:30 this morning, which I'm assuming I won't get paid for, since I don't start until 11. I was told 25 hrs. a week to start, but my schedule has 32 hours, which is better than 25 hrs., so I'm not complaining. And the only day off I have is Sunday, when we're closed. The manager gets days off (but works full days), but I don't. I'll bring it up in the meeting, I guess. But I'm only there until 6pm one day a week, so maybe it's better to work shorter days and get out sooner and work 6 days a week (but that uses more gas...)...? I don't know. Yay for employment, I guess. I'm excited, but I would think that I'd be more excited. Maybe if and when I get my first paycheck (if because I didn't fill out paperwork yet)...
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