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zackisthewalrus wrote:Image

Here's updated cover art with DMR logo and lighter colors...
Thank God the horse is now kicking the witch instead of Snow White.

and my oh my, the dwarfs are on-model. WOW Disney. Now how hard was that?
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Using rational thought, I suspect that the DVD+BD is as above and the BD+DVD has the hag and SW flipped as a nice way of differentiating them from each other. There is no way in hell this release is going to be lenticular - Disney have never done it before for a PE style release, never done it for a BD, there has been no indication that it will be lenticular, it looks crap, and best of all, it has the exact opposite effect on the art than foil embossed slip covers (making it all murky)!
I'm not saying that you're wrong and that it will be lenticular, but just because Disney hasn't done it in the past doesn't mean they won't do it. There have been changes in style all throughout the Platinum series. For starters, Snow White was a double-wide case, the only one in the line to be that way. Beauty and the Beast started the trend of slipcovered Platinums with a hinged door, something everyone assumed would continue, but by Lady and the Tramp, the door was gone. Everyone also assumed the Platinum banner would stay, well, Platinum, but the colors change depending on the release. And eventually, different effects started being added to the covers, such as the streaks of light on Peter Pan or the holofoil reflections on Sleeping Beauty. So just because Disney has yet to do a lenticular DVD release doesn't mean that it is "rational thought" to assume that they won't.

Although, if this is a lenticular cover, I wonder what the Disney Movie Club will give its members for the gift with purchase?
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Blu Ray.com has a new ( new to me anyway ) very large Hi resolution Cover Art scan NB : it's NOT the latest version as posted on here but at this high resolution it looks far more appealing : www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=5220 !! Check it out for yourselves see what you think!!??
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Deco King wrote:Blu Ray.com has a new ( new to me anyway ) very large Hi resolution Cover Art scan NB : it's NOT the latest version as posted on here but at this high resolution it looks far more appealing : www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=5220 !! Check it out for yourselves see what you think!!??

I think it looks cheap! As do the diamond one above... The top border that is supposed to look shiny looks so cheap - i hope it's not the final render...
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271286 wrote:
Deco King wrote:Blu Ray.com has a new ( new to me anyway ) very large Hi resolution Cover Art scan NB : it's NOT the latest version as posted on here but at this high resolution it looks far more appealing : www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=5220 !! Check it out for yourselves see what you think!!??

I think it looks cheap! As do the diamond one above... The top border that is supposed to look shiny looks so cheap - i hope it's not the final render...
I think the colours on the Diamond Edition Cover Art look like a cheap and nasty colour photo copy on a fake DVD in a Yard Sale !!! Hideous colour values , and Snow White's face/head looks ghastly and oddly miss-shaped!!!
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Deco King wrote:
271286 wrote:
I think it looks cheap! As do the diamond one above... The top border that is supposed to look shiny looks so cheap - i hope it's not the final render...
I think the colours on the Diamond Edition Cover Art look like a cheap and nasty colour photo copy on a fake DVD in a Yard Sale !!! Hideous colour values , and Snow White's face/head looks ghastly and oddly miss-shaped!!!

That's true. It looks like they had a very limited color palette too...
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I think that the final version of Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs Cover Art will be far superior to anything we've seen thus far - I wonder if The Walt Disney Company deliberately feed fake images to keep DVD/ Blu Ray piracy at bay, I mean it makes no sense to feed the official Cover Art to potential fakers and pirates now does it??
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So... when are we gonna get thorough details about the Collector's Set? I wanna know what's included before I lay down $150 on it.
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Now that WB has released their specs for their Wizard of Oz set, my predictions are right: Disney is offering the Snow White one at too high a cost for too little. Wizard of Oz gets a 2-disc BD (or four-disc DVD), a coffee table book, a watch, and reproductions of various production notes and publicity materials, all for 85 bucks (retailed!). Snow White gets a 2-disc BD (or 2-disc DVD), a book, a set of pins, and some lithos, retailing $250 (and available on Amazon for $150). The only way I can see the Snow White being worth that much is if it's truly a limited release, and by limited, I'm talking 700 units or less.
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I think it's a major improvement over what we've seen so far - but it's still awful.
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Disneykid wrote:
Now that WB has released their specs for their Wizard of Oz set, my predictions are right: Disney is offering the Snow White one at too high a cost for too little. Wizard of Oz gets a 2-disc BD (or four-disc DVD), a coffee table book, a watch, and reproductions of various production notes and publicity materials, all for 85 bucks (retailed!). Snow White gets a 2-disc BD (or 2-disc DVD), a book, a set of pins, and some lithos, retailing $250 (and available on Amazon for $150). The only way I can see the Snow White being worth that much is if it's truly a limited release, and by limited, I'm talking 700 units or less.
First off, thanks for the tip about The Wizard of Oz. I just preordered both from Amazon.com.

However, I have to say that it isn't exactly fair to compare Snow White's Limited Edition Collector's Set with Oz's Ultimate Collector's Edition. For starters, look at the packaging:
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Snow White comes in a gorgeous box that costs quite a bit more than...
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...something that appears to be thin cardboard and not meant to be kept after it is opened.

Both sets contain books, bot Oz's has yet to be seen. Snow White's looks very nicely done and thick. I had an Oz box set in the 90's from one of its VHS releases that also came with a coffee table book, but it was soft covered.

Snow White's set comes with an 8-piece pin set. Assuming these are the cheapest of Disney pins, which would retail for $6.95 each before tax, that's $55 right there. Oz comes with a watch with "genuine crystals", but that doesn't mean its going to be a nice watch. Watches are common giveaways and the ones given away don't typically last very long. And "genuine crystals" are sometimes the stones on kids jewelry. In addition, the watch is something that only the female consumers will have interest in.

Oz comes with reproductions of publicity photos and production notes... which were given away with the previous collector's set, so they are just recycled. Snow White comes with lithographs, which are considerably higher quality and cost more to make.

Also, to say that the Blu-Ray of Oz = 4 DVDs is incorrect. Oz was most recently a 3-disc set and it sounds like Warner is just porting over all of those bonuses in standard definition. The "new" bonus features are mostly old archival features that never interested me much. However, Snow White's bonus features will all be in HD and the majority of them are being made specifically for this release.

Snow White's retail price is a little bit steep, but $150 is about what I would expect to pay for a set that nice, so I have no problem buying it from Amazon at that price. And besides, most retailers don't actually sell at the suggested retail price. They usually mark it down, especially the first week of release.
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I guess that the Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs Collectors Book set will contain the same book internally at least even if the cover looks different , I must say that I quite like the Cover Art of that package!
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goofystitch wrote:Also, to say that the Blu-Ray of Oz = 4 DVDs is incorrect. Oz was most recently a 3-disc set and it sounds like Warner is just porting over all of those bonuses in standard definition. The "new" bonus features are mostly old archival features that never interested me much. However, Snow White's bonus features will all be in HD and the majority of them are being made specifically for this release.

Er. It does equal 4 DVDs - even if the supplements are in SD. Because it takes 4 DVDs to hold the supplements. Given Warner's past Hi-Def releases, I don't doubt that most, if not all, of the supplements which are ported acrosss will be SD. But I do think the majority of the new supplements will be in HD, given that they're effectively filmed documentaries in their own right.

After all, A Clockwork Orange has O Lucky Malcolm! in HD (requiring 2 discs for the HD DVD release), Order of the Phoenix has all its supplements in HD (even doing a 2 disc HD DVD release in the UK in order to do so), Blood Diamond has the one hour Blood on the Sand in HD (even on the lesser spaced HD DVD release), most of the Dark Knight's supplements were HD and I'm sure there's countless other examples too.

I predict that all of the vintage shorts will be in HD, as will the MGM Documentary. If Victor Fleming: Master Craftsman is newly filmed, then I think this could be HD (and probably the MGM Doc in SD).

The new featurettes on the Wizard of Oz could equal the runtime of the new featurettes on Snow White, and could be in HD (as I've pointed out, WB aren't 100% against presenting new content in HD). At the end of the day, Pinocchio and Sleeping Beauty didn't that that much all-new HD content. (MGM's Valkyrie BD has 3 hours of new HD content - plus another 40 minutes in SD - all on the same disc as the 2 hour movie!)
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I understand the storage equivalent is 4 DVDs. Disneykid suggested that Oz was a 4-DVD set becoming a 2-Blu-Ray set compared to Snow White's 2-DVD set becoming a 2-Blu-Ray set. I was pointing out the fact that Oz was a 3-DVD set, but I was unaware that the new edition is a 4-DVD set, and so I was wrong.

I just found an image of the contents of the box set, but it only shows the DVD inside. Image
It is now confirmed that the book is thin since the cover is not shown, probably not ornate, which justifies part of Snow White's higher price. The watch is also not visible because all they will show is the case, arousing my suspicions further that the watch isn't of high quality either. Don't get me wrong, I am excited for Oz's collector's set, but I still don't think its a fair comparison to Snow White's set.

I'm also nervous about Oz's Blu-Ray release because every Warner Blu-Ray I've tried has been a big disappointment to me. I don't own any of them, but I've rented a few and I wasn't impressed with the way they handled it. I'm not talking about bonus material in SD because I don't mind that so much, but menu's were poor and the transfers weren't anything to boast about.
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Well, the menus aren't going to change. But really, I'd rather have those than the endless previews and adverts ahead of a Disney BD. I find the Warner Menus very clear (except for the Troy:Directors Cut one).
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Clever If Very Cynical Marketing Ploy on MGM's Part !!!

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What a clever , if very cynical marketing move on MGM's part ( !!! ) to release The Wizard of Oz on Blu Ray, another beloved American Family Classic , exactly a week prior to Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs much vaunted Blu Ray debut , I still hope the The Walt Disney Company's title does better !! But whatever happens they're both destined to sell a great many copies on Blu Ray and the release within a week is also bound to sell a great many Blu Ray players and open up the whole Blu Ray marketplace , add Gone With the Wind just a few weeks later , and those Blu Ray players and discs are really going to be flying off the Supermarket shelves faster than the Wicked Witch Of The West's Flying Monkeys!!
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goofystitch wrote: I just found an image of the contents of the box set, but it only shows the DVD inside. Image
It is now confirmed that the book is thin since the cover is not shown, probably not ornate, which justifies part of Snow White's higher price. The watch is also not visible because all they will show is the case, arousing my suspicions further that the watch isn't of high quality either. Don't get me wrong, I am excited for Oz's collector's set, but I still don't think its a fair comparison to Snow White's set.
Although I don't know much about WB's Bluray sets since I've only ever seen/watched Disney bluray so far, I see potential in this set.

I'm pretty sure the book is hard cover, which although it does seem pretty thin would push it's value up. It also has much bigger pages, as it seems. To me this would also suggest it holds more information per page. That's all that it has going for it though.

The watch can be seen right in between to container box and the campaign book. It's green so it kind of blends into the box, but it looks neat. I'm not one who wears decorative watches but it doesn't looks to poor of value. Perhaps it is given the price of the set though.

It also looks like the box that holds the set is a nice sturdy cardboard that would last a little while but would probably show some wear and tear if opened repeatedly.

Overall, I think whether or not this set is a fair comparison to Snow White they will be compared. I think most families who will go out and buy the films wont be interested by these sets. They'll probably just settle with the regular releases and if that's the case both will sell very well.
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zackisthewalrus wrote:Image

Here's updated cover art with DMR logo and lighter colors...
The queen is still green. (haha, queen green :lol: )
And Snow White looks off-model retarded.
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Deco King wrote:Blu Ray.com has a new ( new to me anyway ) very large Hi resolution Cover Art scan NB : it's NOT the latest version as posted on here but at this high resolution it looks far more appealing : www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=5220 !! Check it out for yourselves see what you think!!??
In my earlier post I pointed out this large file of one of the earlier Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs Cover Art designs , however I agree with the last post about the Snow White image looking badly drawn and retarded , not only that but in comparison to the Blu Ray.com website the colors look hideously garish and cheap like a Yard Sale fake DVD Color Photo Copy!!
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In my earlier post I pointed out this large file of one of the earlier Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs Cover Art designs , however I agree with the last post about the Snow White image looking badly drawn and retarded , not only that but in comparison to the Blu Ray.com website the colors look hideously garish and cheap like a Yard Sale fake DVD Color Photo Copy!![/quote]

I agree completely. Everyone except the dwarves looks off model. The cover is WAY too busy. All the wonderful "royal" purple is taken out of the Queen - making her stark black silhouette too bland. The neon shining colors all over the place make it look like it was hand colored with highlighters.

This is certainly no way to treat "the fairest of them all"!
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