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Disney Channel Original Series: An analysis

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Just recently my family switched to satellite and now we get the Disney Channel. I was able to see for myself what was the hubbub behind the famed original series, the one aspect that turned the channel from a very varied family oriented channel to pre-school and tween central.

I saw nearly all of them; That's So Raven, Hannah Montana, The Suite Life of Zack and Cody, Cory in the house, Phil of the future and many others. Yes, its very odd that a 25 year old guy is watching Disney shows aimed towards pop culture fueled children, but I can be weird like that :p .

As I was watching I realized something; these shows are overly silly, EXTREMELY fluffy in substance and more than likely to be forgotten in 20 years. Yet...I find myself enjoying them. Hooked even!

I consider myself a guy that is very critical of everything that he sees so you would think these shows would activate the Jay Sherman in me and proclaim "IT STINKS!". But while the senses tingle on occasion I just sit back and enjoy.

Thinking about it further I think the reason as to why I enjoy these shows is because they are far better products that anything that is featured on Teen Nick.

What annoys me so much about the Teen Nick shows is that they are extremely shallow, superficial and its characters are sending the wrong message. For example, I DESPISE "Drake and Josh" because of the characters. Drake is an arrogant, selfish, pretty a-hole that treats girls as if they were a pair of underwear and gets away with such behavior. His brother, Josh, is a great exception, but the writers mistreat him in favor of fueling the fangirl's dreams of Drake. And don't get me started on Megan, their younger sister! She is a B*TCH! She emotionally manipulates her parents and her siblings and truly gets away with some acts that I know would've gotten me punished as a kid. What are they saying? That the cool kids are really bad people but that's OK because they are still loved anyway?

"Zoey 101" I can't even look at it because I see its main start (Jamie Lynn Spears) and see Britney Spears Part 2. The stories seem to focus on rather beautiful and trendy girls trying to find love amongst similarly beautiful and trendy young men. Even the "dorky" character is decked out in the latest fashions! Not to mention the girls are very self aware of their looks and how it affects their chances of getting lai...I mean finding love.

"Unfabulous" follows a more outcast character but she too falls for the "pretty is everything" stigma.

The only show that I kind of approve on Teen Nick is "Ned's declassified school survival guide". The show is extremely cheesy, goofy and too stupid. Yet its character are closer to realistic and the show actually offers some good stories and advice on school life!

But outside that exception the Teen Nick shows would fuel my anger towards the media and its profit fueled message towards our generation.

So when I started seeing the Disney Channel original series I was expecting the exact, same thing. I mean, Hannah Montana is pretty popular right now, right? And most of the shots they show of her have her in heavy makeup, a blond wig and churning out bubblegum pop like there is no tomorrow. Even if this is still present in the series imagine my surprise when the shows are more than what they appear.

Yes, what I am about to say might defy all sense and logic. The Disney Channel shows are WAY better than the Teen Nick affair.

The shows are very wacky, with extremely stereotyped and tired character archetypes adorning every unimaginable storyline. Yet not only are the shows fun to watch on a boring afternoon they provide something the Teen Nick shows fail to do; a far more positive and realistic portrayal of life.

What I am saying is that unlike "Drake and Josh" the characters are well aware of their wrong doings and are punished for it, making them grow and realize the errors of their ways. For example, in "Suite Life" the twins are constantly creating mayhem at the hotel they live in. Yet they never get away with ill behavior, even if at times its short lived. But still, I applaud the fact that the writers of these shows punish the characters. As a kid I would learn from shows that unacceptable behavior would lessen your person and that the punishment was always sour.

One other thing I like is that the "cool" characters aren't always the center of attention and at times are mocked and ridiculed. For example, London Tipton in "Suite Life" is a very beautiful young girl. But she is dumb, spoiled and frowned upon. She still gets her way, yes, but the negative impression she leaves on people is at times far stronger that the fact that she is the ideal role model.

One other thing about "Drake and Josh" is that Drake is very selfish and the writers barely do anything to make him realize the errors of his ways. Cory Baxter (from "That's so Raven" and "Cory in the house") has similar attitudes, especially when it comes to money. But in expected Disney fashion this chubby character learns that life doesn't revolve around money. My favorite example is the "That's so Raven" in which he is so impressed by the money gifts he sees at a bar mitzvah that he throws his own in hopes of getting a lot of money. At the very end he learns that this type of ideas is something that you would expect in a kid, not a man. Even if Cory doesn't carry this belief often at least the writers showed the character realizing what was going on and doing something about it. Its far MORE than anything the Teen Nick shows have done in the last few years.

Don't get me wrong, though. I still believe there are far better stuff out there for kids to watch and enjoy, like books, really good movies and educational shows. In fact, if I had a child that loved Hannah Montana I wouldn't prohibit it, but I would balance it with something that has far more substance. But still Disney provides the lesser of two evils and frankly I don't mind that the kids enjoy these shows.

These characters may be overly goofy and confront "Full House" style moments and some stories are too far fetched to be believed (like the Ultimate Disney reviews have pointed out, there's NO WAY that Miley Stuart would get away with being a normal girl and Hannah Montana), but at least they provide a much better lesson. Its just wrapped in a very light and breezy cloak.
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Very well written, pap64!

99% of the time when I watch TV I watch the Disney Channel, so those are my favorite shows, but I'll occassionally watch the Teen Nick shows. I enjoy all of the shows you mentioned (but I've never seen "Ned's Declassified..."), but the Disney ones are better! They are more "realistic".

One comment, though- Jamie Lynn Spears isn't her sister. She isn't the best actress, either, but "Zoey 101" is an enjoyable show, regardless of who her sister is. It's just not fair to her to be compared to her sister.
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Wait Amy...if I read correctly I think you just said Jamie-Lynn is her sister,but isn't. :P

She is Britney's sister.

I agree,Disney Channel is MUCH better. I still watch Ned's sometimes,if nothing else is on. I also have to warm up to Drake because I'm seeing him in concert next weekend.

Anyway...even though shows like Phil of the Future,which are unrealistic,are more realistic than Nick shows....if that makes sense. :lol:

Gah! Let's just put it this way.

Go.Watch.Disney.Channel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! xD
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Man, why is society always going to the teens? I ask you, why is it going to the teens?
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its not society, its just disney channel,

there are other things driven to other people of different ages, but that's jus what disney channel is good for
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PeterPanfan wrote:Wait Amy...if I read correctly I think you just said Jamie-Lynn is her sister,but isn't. :P

She is Britney's sister.
What I meant is that Jamie-Lynn is not Britney, she is Jamie-Lynn. Just because her sister went a little crazy doesn't mean that Jamie will follow in her footsteps. Because you said you see her as Britney Spears, Part 2. But that's unfortunate, in my opinion, because she should be thought of as Jamie-Lynn Spears, and not just "the little sister of Britney".
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I didn't say that...pap64 did.
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But it has it under your name?!?!?
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I've passed over this topic a few times, but I finally decided to check it out and throw in my two cents.

First, to answer why society is always going to the teens, I've always heard it explained that teens spend the most money, probably in regards to going to the movies and buying merchandise based on TV shows, and things like that. They probably follow things like TV shows more loyally too. There's also the hypocritical attitude in the U.S. media where teens are constantly marketed as sex symbols, despite the big social no-no that is represented as. Draw your own conclusions about why that is the case.

As for Jamie Lynn being compared to her sister or just considered Britney's little sister, that is always going to be the case when one sibling makes it in a huge way and the other sort of rides the coat-tails. In other words, the general public has no reason to believe (especially based on her acting talent and the fact that she's not really that cute) that Jamie got a TV series due to any reason other than the fact that she's Britney's sister. In a case like that, all the relative can do is prove themself, but Jamie hasn't really done that in my opinion.

Anyway, as for my comments about the shows mentioned (and don't feel bad, I'm older than you pap64, though I watch this type of stuff less and less):

Suite Life: Definitely fluff, but one of the more entertaining shows on the Disney Channel. For some reason, everyone on the teen/tween comedy shows over-acts. With the adults, it's probably because they're trained for stage acting, I don't know, but I think with most of the kids it's just bad acting. It's one of the reasons "Lizzie McGuire" was so much better than any of these newer shows. "So Weird" was probably pretty good too, but I never got into it. Anyway, back to Suite Life, as I said, one of the better ones. I guess the writing is just better and the cast more likeable.

Phill of the Future: Probably my preferred show on the Disney Channel right now, though I don't think they've been running it over the summer. This is one I actually wouldn't mind owning on DVD. The acting and writing is just overall better than the other, fluffier stuff, and Debbie Berwick is adorable, ha.

Hannah Montana: Ugh, probably the worst acting on the Disney Channel. Still, sometimes it's like a trainwreck, you can't look away. It still seems like a horrible wannabe Lizzie McGuire sequel to me though. I mean, considering the end of the Lizzie Movie when she's a singer and all.

That's So Raven: I can't take the acting on this one either, especially the dumb friend, and the spin off doesn't even appeal to me.

Life With Derek: Watchable, though the characters aren't that likeable.

Naturally Sadie: Is this still on? Never could really sit through an episode. Though Sadie was a cutie, it just wasn't interesting enough and looked like it was trying to be a high school version of Lizzie McGuire.

Zoey 101: This looks like it should be on MTV, except that the cast is so young. Not much reason to watch this one. I can really see what you mean about the Nick shows sending the wrong message, as MTV usually does.

Unfabulous: Also doesn't appeal to me, but I do want to see that Nancy Drew movie eventually, especially since I heard that Rachael Leigh Cook is in it.

Drake and Josh: The early episodes stink, but the later episodes are pretty funny. I have to admit that, since I'm not a parent, the message doesn't matter TOO much to me if I just find it entertaining. I do get annoyed when a network seems to be entirely running one kind of message though, especially if I disagree with it. And you're right, the little sister is a little witch! Ha. Amazingly, or not so amazingly, she's getting her own show, though she plays a different character (in name at least).

Ned's declassified School Survival Guide: Unless I'm forgetting something, this is the most enjoyable show on Nick, except that Cookie character and his girlfriend who are soooooooooo annoying with their acting!

I have to agree that the Disney Channel shows are mostly better than the Nick shows, but in both cases there are some shows I haven't even tried to watch because they don't look very good. I'll also say that, in defense of Nick I suppose (though I very rarely watch it compared to the Disney Channel), both channels have always sort of been that way as far as values. Well, maybe not to the extreme Nick is at now, but Nick was always a channel specifically for kids. I mean, it was practically built around "You Can't Do That On Television," which I wouldn't say had much substance or education. Maybe the other old shows did though, I don't remember it all so well. It's funny that you still see remnants of the slime gag on Nick, and yet most of its viewers would have no idea where it originated. As for Disney, it's nice to see they have hung onto the Family values themes mostly. Of course, both channels have gone immensely downhill in the quality of their shows. Another interesting thing: I'd say right now that Disney has better animated shows than live-action (not all, but some), and Nick has better live-action than animated. Many folks will probably disagree with me, but that's my take on it. I haven't cared for NickToons since the days of Ren and Stimpy and Rocko, though they have a few cute girls on some of the current ones. Cartoon Network is a similar case though. I miss all the classic stuff because I don't get Boomerang, and most of the new stuff doesn't appeal to me.
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Slave, I agree about the acting. I've always found it weird that in kids shows the adults always overact and are stereotypes while the kids are more level headed, even with their behavior.

I understand that kids get bored when watching something with serious and dramatic acting, but what's with they being dumber than kids?

I've always said that if I ever make an animated movie, comic book, live action movie, videogame or whatever geared towards a family audience I will create a balance between the kids and the adults.

The acting in the Disney shows, however, don't bother me as much. In fact, it adds an element of cheese to them, which I enjoy.
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blackcauldron85 wrote:But it has it under your name?!?!?
No it doesn't..
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slave2moonlight wrote: Zoey 101: This looks like it should be on MTV, except that the cast is so young. Not much reason to watch this one. I can really see what you mean about the Nick shows sending the wrong message, as MTV usually does.
Well, Viacom does own both Nickelodeon and MTV...so that could explain it...?
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I actually just discovered Disney Channel last summer when shows like Even Stevens and Lizzie McGuire were like literally gone a month or so after I started watching and shows like Phil, Suite Life, Raven, and Hannah Montana were the Big 4. So for that reason alone those shows hold a special place in my heart.

I'm a HUGE fan of Hannah Montana, I think that's my favorite of them. Phil is also a fantastic show and I would definitely buy season sets if they made them. Unfortunately it's on once a day now (12 noon here) and I never get to see it 'cause of work. Suite Life is great and so is Raven, but that's not on so much anymore either.

Cory in the House... it's not SO bad but I don't go out of my way to watch it. The girl that plays Meena is sooo cute though!

And then there's Life With Derek. I'd say that I even like this more than Hannah Montana. There's just something about it that I find very appealing.
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My favorites in order are:

Phil of the Future
Life With Derek
That's So Raven
The Suite Life
Hannah Montana(This used to be last..but aftermeeting Emily Osment it changed)

Cory in the House
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well, here's my list

That's So Raven
The Suite Life of Zack and Cody
-----------------------------------------Kim Possible( we're talking live action but it would go there
Phil of The Future
Even Stevens
Life With Derek


i hate Hannah Montana and Cory in The House,
i love everything Raven, but CitH is just too stupid, Cory was only enjoyable as a little kid, Newt is just a character trying TOO hard to be funny, i love the little kid though
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Sorry to bump this up but there is smething I want to say about disney vs nick. Keep in mind I'm olny 12.

I feel nick is doing better than it was in 2007. I mean there's true jackson, which I think is a good role model, smart, optimistic, and nice. Isn't that how people should be. I mean the kids on disney chnnel can be kinda bratty sometimes, like in the episode of hannah montana where she accidentally pushed her dance instructor out of the window and acts rude to her when she was in the hospital in cast just because the instructor couldn't come back for a while. That's just mean. While on icarly they would always fix their problems and are actually caring , except for sam sometimes.

Though come the fall season, they need to add one or two more shows to add more. But they already have two good shows. So in short disney should try and have characters like true jackson and carly shae. imo
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You're not the only one who thinks all that. Pap!
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Don't even get me started with iCarly.. that Sam girl is such a jerk and that's supposed to be funny?
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The best thing on Disney Chnnel by far is Phineas and Ferb!
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rs_milo_whatever wrote:Don't even get me started with iCarly.. that Sam girl is such a jerk and that's supposed to be funny?
iCarly is not a Disney Channel show, it's a Nickelodeon show. Either way, I dislike it. :P
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