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Losing an online friend

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I realize that many of us have a lot of friends we only see online. Sometimes we know their real names, sometimes we don't. Sometimes we get real close to them, sometimes we only know them in passing. Sometimes we even meet them in person. But they're all a part of our lives in one way or another, there for support, to inspire, and sometimes just for a smile or laugh to help us get through the day. But sometimes, they just . . . disappear. We all take breaks from our favorite online haunts and I think that's understandable, but with the way the online world works it can be hard to know if something serious has happened when someone is gone for months at a time.

I had such a friend that I used to talk to a lot back in '06, when I was still living in Wisconsin and was leading a rather miserable existence at home. He was always one of my favorite people to chat with. We rarely talked about problems or personal issues, we mostly just chatted about a lot of fun stuff like old Disney cartoons or the latest thing on TV. He (as well as several others) became a big part of my escape from reality, in a sense. And like many of the people I hang out with (myself included), he didn't attach his real name to his handle.

I went through a lot of changes late that year. I broke up with my ex and ended up in a long-distance relationship with another friend I'd made online. I wasn't quite so miserable anymore, especially once I moved Nevada for the fresh start I'd been needing. Something that always comforted me was the fact that no matter where I moved to, my online friends would always be along for the ride. But as time passes and we get busier with our own lives, we don't always find the time to talk with our old friends as much as we used to.

Long story short, back in October I realized I hadn't seen that one friend for a while, so I left him a goofy message on one of his pages hoping for a reply. I tried again a couple months later around Christmas when I didn't hear from him, and no reply that time either. I was a little worried but figured no big deal, he was probably busy with real life stuff or was taking a break from being online. I'd check back every so often, but nothing.

When he popped in my head again earlier this week I checked all the normal haunts, and still no sign of him. I then realized it had been about half a year since I'd seen him post anything and got really worried. I recalled a youtube account he once mentioned in passing, that had no ties to the handle I knew him under. I went to that account to see if there were any signs of recent activity, and instead I stumbled across some incredibly sad and shocking news.

Comments on his videos lead me to an article from nearly six months ago about his untimely death. He was the victim of a murder-suicide, killed by his own father.

Had I not known about his other account, about his real name, I still wouldn't know what had happened to him. I'd never know, in fact. And now that I do? I'm trying my hardest to cope with the loss. It's so strange . . . I never met him, yet he definitely touched my life. He told me I was the reason he decided to start drawing again. He did so much to cheer me up back in the day, was a major influence my art and writing, and now I'm left wondering if he ever had any idea of how much I appreciated his friendship.

I was then faced with the decision on how much I should say within the communities he was active in and chose to make a simple announcement of his passing; I know he valued a certain amount of privacy and it just didn't feel right to reveal all the details due to the horrible circumstances. Those that knew him were free to ask me about the details privately.

I've lost loved ones in real life, and I feel part of the coping and grieving process is finding mementos to keep and clearing out the rest. You can't leave their rooms and closets untouched, life has to go on. But when their "rooms and closets" are online in the form of myspace pages, forum accounts, videos, and galleries, everything's just as they left it. I don't know, it's disconcerting, yet somehow comforting at the same time to see the virtual remnants left behind. People are now leaving "rest in peace" messages on his pages (myself included), perhaps one of the few forms of closure we can find in such a situation. And I don't know, maybe I'm seeking closure by writing this?

I'm also left wondering, how often does this happen? How often is death the reason some of our online friends disappear without a trace? Knowing that he's gone now, it just . . . hurts. It hurts like hell, especially considering the needless circumstances. He studied film and dreamed of being an actor. We carried a lot of inside jokes between the two of us. He was such a nice guy, bright and funny, and with this happening so long ago and so far away, I never had a chance to say goodbye.

I feel so helpless. :(
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I'm really sorry to hear that, enigmawing. :(

I read an article a few months ago in the Sunday paper about when online friends die, how to get the word out. Here it is:

http://www.newsday.com/technology/ny-et ... 0722.story

I don't have online friends outside of UD, but I know that I get worried if someone doesn't post for a while (unless I know that they're taking a break)...I mean, I would email that person in that case, if I was worried enough, but I would be really sad if an online friend died. I talk to UDers more than I talk to my real-life friends, sometimes, and in some cases, my UD friends have become real-life friends.

I don't really know what else to say...I hope that posting on his sites will give you some closure, and that you get less sad about it and think of the good times.
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Post by xxhplinkxx »

enigmawing, I'm so sorry for your loss. It was a horrible tragedy that happened to your friend. :(


This topic though is something that I think about all the time, actually. I too often worry about losing online friends because something might happen to them. Or if I were to die, how would my online friends ever know? It really is a very sad subject.


I hope you feel better.
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Enigma, I'm extremely sorry for your (And I'm sure a lot of others) loss. As you, Amy, and Chris said, I often think about what would happen if I died and how anybody would know, and if any of you died (God forbid) how we would know. :(
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"How Do I know..."

I'm sorry for him and for you. But look at what a great thing you did. You kept searching and searching for him, instead of giving up, assuming he just left. You did such a great thing for him.
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Wow. I honestly don't know what else to say. It's such a heartbreaking, yet uplifting, story that just...well breaks my heart. I really hope you feel better soon, Sunny Wing.
Sunny Wing wrote:He did so much to cheer me up back in the day, was a major influence my art and writing, and now I'm left wondering if he ever had any idea of how much I appreciated his friendship.
He knows. Believe me, he knows.
Sunny Wing wrote:And I don't know, maybe I'm seeking closure by writing this?
Closure comes in many forms, writing definitely is one of them.

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Im sorry for your loss. Death is never easy to cope with. When the beloved husband of my private school teacher died las fall(he ran the school), I couldn't believe it. I had history lessons with him, but it just didn't seem real. He had a very dry sense of humor(yet, a very straight face). The funeral was a very strange experience. The truth is, you never know until it happens how much they meant to you. I could've had an older brother if he didn't die at 6 months of age. I have a sister instead(who's auditioning for Webber's new musical in Toronto). I was even struck when I read that Joe Ranft died(I always dreamed of working at Pixar).

In the end, I'm very sorry for your loss, and know how it feels. I might just be seeking a bit of closure, myself, but I think I've already achieved it.
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Post by disneyboy20022 »

First off Sorry to hear about your friend.....but that's very loyal that you never gave up in your search to find out what happened

I also worry about this myself.....maybe too much....as I am in the hospital due to my Crohn's a lot.....If I were suddenly to take a turn for the worse.....how would I let friends at UD and other forums know if I didn't get to the computer or something before I died....thats one reason I bring some sort of way to get on the internet if I am in the hospital...I do think that this is an area of a digital and wireless age that when someone dies.....their fellow online friends forum members etc might not find out....if they only know them online...

I think each of us should leave a note for our loved ones somewhere with every password to an online site we use......and if the worse should happen that loved one should contact the site admin (in case of this site it would be Luke) I know it's not easy.....thinking about death...or for the younger members on the site.....but in reality.....Life is precious.....and fragile.....I know some people say ahh i'll get to it....but they may never do until its too late.....Perhaps write in a locked journal or notepad our user ids and passwords and a message to pass on to all the forums side admin like I said in UD's case it would be Luke....Like I also said death something we don't like to think about....and the answer would be no....but....you never know when you wake up for the last time....
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Here's what I find fascinating about your story, enigma...

Many people believe that online friendships are silly because you don't see the person or even feel their presence. All you see are words, maybe some pictures and maybe some video footage.

And yet, many of us have made so many dear friends online that we can't imagine life without them.

My best friend in the whole world started out as an online rival, someone I hated because he kept criticizing a game I liked. But through online conversations we grew closer as friends. We began to understand each other even though there was a wall between us.

I think what truly shocked me was when he told me that I had a beautiful soul. To this day, I still wonder how he came into that conclusion. I mean I was just a silly kid posting on online forums and rambling about games and movies. How could he tell THAT from just random posts?

It became clear to me that we could be close friends even if we were far away from each other. I was able to learn to cherish friendships online even if there wasn't any contact established, because behind the silly username there's a human being. And those words likely come from his/her heart and soul.

I am deeply sorry to hear about your loss.
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I'm sorry to hear about your loss. At least you had luck to know him at all and it's comforting to know that you've had such positive impact on each other's life. I hope you feel better soon.
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Sorry to hear that Enigma :cry:

This subject has come up a couple of times on other forums I inhabit, with serious debate and suggestions attached, because as mentioned, online friendships can be just as meaningful and inspiring as actually hanging out with the person in meatspace. The website noted in the online article is certainly an idea I had in the past but didn't consider it thoughtfully enough to try carrying it through.

I'm not sure why. Perhaps it is because I've also been in the position of finding out about several online friends that have died in the past; in all but one instance though, someone else has been close enough to the unfortunate in question and able to get the sad word out. In the exception, it was left to me, in similar circumstances to Enigma, to do the digging myself and find the truth.

Sometimes it isn't bad thankfully. I used to know someone in Holland while I was at university and she went off the radar for ages; she was from outside Europe and her relatives that she was staying with while she went to university there were horribly controlling, manipulative and mean. Many years later I happen to find her posting on a poem website (she was doing an English qualification) and we catch up; I was so relieved she graduated, got her own place, got a boyfriend (finally! Although truth be told, she was really good looking and if I was in Holland, I'd have asked her out heh), got away from her relatives and her life was much better. Just a little ray of sunshine on a dark Friday afternoon here in Limeyville...
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Thank you very much for the advice and kind words everyone. In a strange turn of events, the very day after I wrote my post here I received more bad news; another online friend of mine died when his bicycle was hit by a car. Like the first friend, it happened months ago, but none of his online friends heard any news until last week; we all just assumed he was busy or couldn't get online for whatever reason.

The timing on all of this is just unbelievable. In fact, I found out about his death within a comment left on my journal entry discussing the first friend's death. And ironically, just last month I was posting in a thread at another forum, discussing the possibility of losing online friends: how we may or may not find out, how to cope once we do. I'd never actually experienced any of this myself until last week though . . .

So I've been having a really rough go of it since then. I didn't know the second friend nearly as well as the first, but we had a lot in common and left comments on each other's artwork. He and I both had an original character with the same name (Amethyst) so I drew the both of them together as a gift for him a while back.

I mentioned in my earlier post that after leading that "rather miserable experience," I'd gone through a lot of changes when I broke up with my ex and started a long-distance relationship with an online friend. If that kind of trailed off it's probably because I wasn't really thinking straight. What I didn't get to is that I spent well over half a year struggling, trying to get back on my feet after being left in such a horrible position by my ex (he ran off owing me several thousands of dollars and behind on the rent, no running car, etc.) I was living far from my hometown without any nearby friends or family, plus I was several states away from the guy I was dating. That was probably the most difficult time of my life; it was within those months that my online friends became more important than ever. Whether they realized it or not, they were all my lifeline in those lonely months of barely scraping by and trying to get my life back in order. The humor and optimism of my first friend was a big part of all that. And the second friend was one of many that brightened my days and reminded me that I had reason to keep moving forward.

And now I find I have to move forward without them. And as hurt and confused as I'm feeling right now, I do have a few thoughts of comfort. I still have many friends (like you guys!) and perhaps I appreciate them now more than ever. And the ones I've lost wouldn't have wanted me or anyone else to be sad for long. Once I've had a chance to heal, I know I'll think of all the good they brought to me and remember them with a smile.
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