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blackcauldron - Yay, I'm glad you're going to go see it :)

You know that for every ticket sold, Disney plants a tree right? Seems like a lot of people are pretty excited to watch the movie because they're already planting 500,000 trees from advanced ticket sales!

http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/04/72992/index.html

Pretty cool, huh? Your ticket stubs will be good for more than just points too! :)
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I had forgotten about the tree planting thing!!! I'm excited to be able to help out- I just helped to plant a tree through Celestial Seasonings tea's website, too, so yay for tree planting! :)
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...one of the biggest issues which nobody has addresses is the fact that the sheer population on the planet is too large...
That is the endangered elephant in the room, isn't it? We hear a lot about financial debt nowadays but there's another debt crisis in the world - ecological debt, which is when consumption of resources & production of waste outstrips the Earth's ability to generate those resources and absorb that waste for the year. For the last 22-23 years, we've been running an ecological debt.

Again, I don't mean to get into a socio-political debate but it's well established that many of our most urgent and serious environmental problems have been linked to human population growth. Habitat destruction, loss of biological diversity, pollution (air, water, soil, noise, and light), deforestation, the list goes on. From overfishing to poor sanitation & dumping chemicals in waterways to destructive agricultural & home gardening practices to the illicit trade in rare animals & plants to wasteful habits to war, these and other acts have had major effects on species and ecosystems. In fact, humanity's impact on the planet has became so pervasive and dominant that there are some scientists who suggest the Earth has entered a new geologic era, the Anthropocene.
Instead, we need to disassociate politics from climate science and restore objectivity and rational, measured tones to this topic, as opposed to shrill cries of panic and fear.
I do agree that fear mongering is not the way to go. Both because it can be a distraction from good science and because it's often completely counterproductive since it can either make people think things are so hopeless there's no point trying to fix our environmental problems or it makes people skeptical that warnings about the health of species and the environment are just empty scare tactics. But it's not just tree huggers who've been guilty of fear mongering or spreading bad science. I still remember when I was growing up and Reagan kept saying that we didn't really know whether acid rain was a problem (*duh*). And we've been left with a tragic legacy of ravaged forests and polluted waterways due to his irresponsible and dishonest rhetoric. (Okay, to be fair, I can't blame it all on him, the problem had been around for years before he took office. It's just that I get so frustrated by the delay tactics of the anti-enviros.) Talk show hosts spewing dire and irrational accusations about environmentalists wanting to destroy America is one of the more egregious and and infuriating examples of fear mongering of which I can think. Other examples come to mind but this post is going to be long enough as it is.

We have to realize that these are complex and interconnected problems. If one points out that some alternative energy technologies can harm wildlife (such as wind turbines being deadly to bats by causing a condition called barotrauma) that shouldn't be an excuse to say, "Aha! See, we may as well stick to coal and oil!". Deforestation and desertifcation can both be causes and results of climate change - things aren't always straightforward and simple. Unfortunately, we usually want things to be just that - easy. But that same complexity and interconnectedness can also be helpful because it makes it possible for us to work on multiple problems at once. And I do believe we have it within us to do the right thing. There are potential costs and benefits to all options - we need to do what we can to maximize the efficiency & effectiveness of the most promising options while limiting their risks. This is one reason I consider conservation - of energy and other resources - to be so important. It's the safest and simplest solution out there. If we'd just waste less, there wouldn't be such a pressing need to drill or produce more. And we can start working on it right now - no delay. Even today people mock Jimmy Carter for turning down the thermostat in the White House and putting on a sweater. That was three decades ago. But imagine if the U.S. had taken his advice, we'd probably be in a much stronger and secure position. Just because we didn't do it then (at least, not enough) is no excuse to not start now though. There's an old saying, "The best time to plant a tree is 25 years ago. The next best time is today.". I guess I did get into socio-political debate, didn't I? Sorry!
I would love to see the True-Life Adventures and these DisneyNature movies, but I wish there were edited versions or something for people with quesy stomachs...I can't handle seeing dead animals, so I'm missing out on some great movies.
Well, I can sympathize because it's not easy for me to see dead animals either. Although, typically, I have a lot more problem with witnessing the attack than the aftermath (like when the crocodile lunged at that very unlucky wildebeest in Planet Earth - I'm still traumatized from seeing that). And then there are those other deaths shown in nature doumentaries, the ones not the result of violence but due to other causes. Sometimes those are even more utterly heartrending to me. I remember watching an old, sick lion who had been abandoned by his pride but who kept following them as he had nowehere else to go. And a young bird who...oh, I don't want to type it. Sometimes the circle of life really sucks.

Death is not even the worst. The latest episode of PBS's Nature was "The Loneliest Animals" - about some of the most endangered animals in the world and the efforts to save them. Endangered and threatened animals is the eco issue closest to my heart so I already had tears in my eyes only three sentences into the show's introduction (narrated so movingly by F. Murray Abraham): "Imagine it's morning. You wake up and you're totally alone. You're ninety years old and you're the last of your kind on Earth."

Oh I'm sniffling again. Did you know that there is a species of rhino that sings? It's the Sumtran rhinoceros who vocalizes in a way similar to whales and dolphins. This rhino was one of the animals featured on the program - its numbers have declined precipitously due to habitat destruction and hunting for its horn. Just think, rhinos have been roaming the planet for tens of millions of years and they could be gone, just like that, because of human recklessness. And how many of us even knew that some of them sing?

Btw, about the True Life Adventures, I wasn't sure about picking them up either since I had heard complaints about the folksy narration and syrupy background music. But I recently broke down and ordered them and while I haven't watched the whole set yet, there is some truly spectacular film footage so I do recommend checking them out even though there are parts that may upset some sensitive viewers. Even Perri has some sadness. I've not watched it yet but I read the adapted story in one of my Disney books when I was little. The original story was written by Felix Salten, who also penned Bambi (his story is darker than the Disney film), Fifteen Rabbits (which has been compared to Watership Down - one of my favorite books), and The City Jungle (which I have on request from the library).
...seems like Walt's fascination for all things nature was apparent long before being "green" was "in"
I'm torn over Disney's eco record. The studio did promote environmental awareness and animal welfare with the TLA and shorts such as "The Litterbug" and "Lend a Paw" but from what I've read an awful lot of wetlands were lost to build Disney World (although as I understand it the park recently established a nearby nature preserve) and then there's all that extra merchandise they churn out. I mean, really, WALL-E plushes? Did they not understand their own movie 's message?

ETA: I'm sorry, I forgot to thank Rudy Matt for the kind words about my earlier post. I appreciate your openmindness and thoughtful perspective even if we may not agree on some things. Happy Earth Day!
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Happy Earth Day everybody! I don't have time to see the film until Friday, but I thought I should let you all know that if you bring three recyclable cans or bottles to your local Disney Store, you get a free surprise gift. I'm hoping to make it there after class today.
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I'm going to see it tonight at 7:15 but I wonder what kind of crowds it's going to draw. I saw on one box office predction site a $6.5 million/7th place prediction for its opening weekend. As good as it's supposed to be it has that dreaded word "documentary" attached to it. A lot of moviegoers just won't go to one. Too bad since it is very well reviewed at RT still.
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I have no plans to see it, but I want to.

I hope this isn't as bad as "march of the penguins".

What am I saying!? It's footage from Planet Earth!
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I'd like to go see this - can anyone tell me what trailers are in front of it?
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kbehm29 wrote:I'd like to go see this - can anyone tell me what trailers are in front of it?
First one I saw tonight was a great new Harry Potter & The Half Blood Prince. Can't remember any of the others.

Earth is a great movie & there was quite a crowd for Earth Day. I was surprised.
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Im a little confused by the upcoming releases by Disneynature...Oceans is up for release next year followed by Naked Beauty and so forth but there is no mention of a U.S. release of Crimson Wing in their (executives)interviews regarding order of DN releases for U.S.
And yet Crimson Wing seems to be doing a slow trawl around the globe (Crimson Wing is coming to New Zealand) it seems to be placed at the backend of the release slate for U.S. I hope it isnt regulated to a lesser production...it certainly appears to be up there (production wise) with the magnificent March of the Penguins.
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Chris Disher's review of the film disappointed me. I mean, it was well-written, but it was not a positive review. I'll see for myself tomorrow, but isn't it supposed to be more about following the three animal families than a really-for-real scientifical documentary?
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It's got an 84% approval rating on rottentomatoes.
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I just saw Earth, and I thoroughly loved it. I was constantly asking myself, "how did they film that?" Visually it was amazing. Previously, I had tried watching the tv series, but I never got very far because I found Sigourney Weaver's narration to be terribly dull. After two attempts I gave up on the series.

James Earl Jones' narration for Earth was engaging and at times funny. I very much enjoyed the anthropomorphism of the script. I found it enjoyable, and reminiscent of the True-Life Adventure movies. The score also added to the emotion evoked by the film and the narration be appropriately accompanying the mood even if it was twisted into human terms at times.

A more straight-forward educational approach would have been more appropriate for a true educational documentary or a film presented at a science museum's Imax theater, but for a mainstream release, I found the approach taken in Earth to be the more enjoyable and appropriate way to go.

I was hopeful that I'd enjoy Earth, but I was more amazed than I expected. I got chills at a couple of moments, and I was proud of Disney for producing such a classy movie, and a return to the style of the True Life Adventures.

For those interested, there were trailers for Eddie Murphy's Imagine That,
Disney's G-Force, Spike Jones' Where the Wild Things Are, and DisneyNature's next film Oceans. I enjoyed the trailer for Oceans and the way it incorporated Roy E. Disney's comments and a bit of history with Walt himself appearing.
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Well, I saw Earth yesterday afternoon, and I ha e to say that I was pretty disappointed. I was initially excited because I love the Planet Earth series and I knew that there would be new footage that I had never seen before. However, I had seen pretty much all of the footage, except for maybe 10-15 minutes. Let's just say that it felt like I was watching the series on the big screen instead of a new movie with reused footage.

And don't get me started on the narration. There were times in which it was okay, but it mostly felt like this movie was directed towards 2 year olds. With the excessive use of the words "mom," "dad" and "baby" I felt like this could never be as good as the True-Life Adventure series. And half the time I felt like I was watching TLK because of Jones' voice. Again, some of the lines were satisfactory, but overall, it felt rather too kid-friendly and inappropriate for a documentary that came from the Planet Earth series.

The one thing that I did enjoy about the film was the music. I think I paid more attention to the music than anything else. It felt very Tarzan-esque with the drum beat throughout. The strings did a fantastic job as well. The score was definitely on par with what I thought the documentary was supposed to be like. It was rich and very dynamic and I really appreciate that aspect of it. At least they did something right...

I know that nowadays Disney is definitely missing the mark and marketing toward the younger people of the world, but Disney could have done so much better with this documentary. It could have been so much more dynamic (and I'm not talking about just the kill-or-be-killed aspect of what should have been in there).

Overall, I feel quite disappointed with the film. It was too kid-friendly and didn't really capture the animalistic-Darwinism that I was hoping for (that was seen in the series). I'd have to say that I'll skip this when it hits Blu-ray; I'm actually sad that it wasn't as good as it could have been. Maybe they'll get it right the next time.
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gardener14 wrote:I just saw Earth, and I thoroughly loved it. I was constantly asking myself, "how did they film that?" Visually it was amazing...

James Earl Jones' narration for Earth was engaging and at times funny. I very much enjoyed the anthropomorphism of the script...

A more straight-forward educational approach would have been more appropriate for a true educational documentary or a film presented at a science museum's Imax theater, but for a mainstream release, I found the approach taken in Earth to be the more enjoyable and appropriate way to go.

I was hopeful that I'd enjoy Earth, but I was more amazed than I expected. I got chills at a couple of moments, and I was proud of Disney for producing such a classy movie, and a return to the style of the True Life Adventures.

For those interested, there were trailers for Eddie Murphy's Imagine That,
Disney's G-Force, Spike Jones' Where the Wild Things Are, and DisneyNature's next film Oceans. I enjoyed the trailer for Oceans and the way it incorporated Roy E. Disney's comments and a bit of history with Walt himself appearing.
I agree with all of gardener14's comments above. I really enjoyed the film. I was uncomfortable with a few moments (more death than I wanted to see), though it was very interesting and fun, and beautifully made.

And I'm jealous that you saw a trailer for Oceans! When I saw it yesterday, there were trailers for G-Force and Up, and I can't remember the rest, but they weren't the ones you mentioned.

I liked how the script wasn't a straight-documentary; it was more interesting that way. I have nothing at all against documentaries, but for a fun moviegoing movie experience, I'd say that Disney was spot on.

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I just got back from seeing Earth. Overall, I really enjoyed it. I am a fan of the series, so none of the material felt new to me and I think that was my biggest problem with it. However, I felt they did a really good job of condensing 20 hours into 90 minutes. I also really enjoyed James Earl Jones' narration. Unlike TheSequelOfDisney, I didn't think the narration felt dumbed down at all. In fact, I recognized a lot of the dialogue from the series, line for line, just spoken by a different actor. The only real change I noticed was addressing the parents as "mom" and "dad."

The main fault of the film that I found was the marketing. They advertised this as the journey through the year of three families. While they sort of accomplished this, only about half of the film actually involved polar bears, elephants, and humpback whales. The rest of it was about other regions of the world and the animals that live there. The film does a better job of representing each episode of the show than it does in following the three families.

The other thing I was surprised by was how violent the film was for getting a G rating. While there was never any gore, the film got very suspensful and showed animals getting caught by predators. The feeding was never shown, but the catch was and I often heard "awwws" from audience members as this happened. I feel that a PG rating would have been more appropriate because disclaimers on TV spots won't be heard by every parent thinking of bringing young children to see a seemingly innocent animal movie.

But overall, I enjoyed the film greatly and I think it is an excellent introduction for somebody interested in the series. I hope it encourages many to watch the show in its numerous reruns or to rent or buy it on home video.
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I'm going to see this today, so I'm pretty psyched. I'll be using the movie cash from the Disney DVDs, though I was a little disappointed to discover I had to buy three DVDs to get my 2 tickets, because the first time, one of the ones I bought had the 8 dollar movie cash, and it turns out this is just for a child's admission.

Anyway, some folks have referred to this being a re-edit of a TV series or something with new narration? What TV series?
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It seemed obvious to me that almost all the footage was taken from Planet Earth because all the shots in the trailer were from Planet Earth. And sinceI have Planet Earth on Blu-Ray, there is no reason for me to get in a car (even though I own a hybrid), burn gasoline to drive to a movie theater that is sucking up large amounts of power to run the air conditioners and entertainment devices, to watch the 90 minute sanitized version...even if Disney will plant a tree somewhere for my troubles.
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So it's just a reedit of Planet Earth with new narration? Is Planet Earth from Disney? I didn't think it was... What channel did it originally run on?
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slave2moonlight wrote:So it's just a reedit of Planet Earth with new narration? Is Planet Earth from Disney? I didn't think it was... What channel did it originally run on?
Yeah, it's pretty much just an edit of Planet Earth with some new footage that the series didn't use with the new Jones narration. Fortunately, Planet Earth is not from Disney. It was originally shown on BBC and then moved to the Discovery Channel with a new narration by Sigourney Weaver.

I just feel that there was so much potential with this film, and Disney completely missed the mark (but, that's just my opinion).
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People keep scrutinizing Disney for making a toned-down edited version of the series, but Disney didn't edit the film. BBC did. The theatrical version has already been released numerous places worldwide. As far as I know, the only changes Disney made were adding their logo to the beginning and ending and the narrator, but not the script itself.

Disney owns a stake in Discovery Channel, which I believe is how they ended up with distribution rights in the US. In addition, the formation of Disney Nature was in conjunction with the BBC and Greenlight Media, the two companies that made the series and who will also be producing the subsequent Disney Nature films.

So to say that Disney missed their mark with the film is really placing the blame on the wrong people, because unless your only reason for not liking it was James Earl Jones, then everything else was handled by BBC.

I personally thought they did a fantastic job editing 20 hours into 90 minutes. A better title for the film would have been "The Best of Planet Earth." Disney released an edited version of the True Life Adventures series in the 70's called "The Best of the True Life Adventures." In my opinion, this is basically the same type of thing.
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