Wait, wait, wait... Where did you get the idiotic idea that somehow Pinocchio smoking a sigar at Pleasure Island is connected with making Monstro sneeze by making a fire??? That connection makes no sense at all. No wonder you think it's a bad film, when you make up far-fetched theories by yourself that have nothing to do with the actual movie. The fact that Pinocchio doesn't hesitate for a moment to go rescue his father, dives into the ocean and risks his life *is* his development. Up until that point, all he had ever done was thinking of himself. He never cared how Gepetto would feel if he didn't come home from school; that's why he went with Stromboli and Pleasure Island. That last place is Pinocchio's wake-up call: there he sees what happens with boys who do bad things and only think of themselves. That's why he goes on a dangerous mission to save Gepetto.2099net wrote:[...] The only thing which Pinocchio does do to save Gepetto is come up with the idea of smoking themselves out of Monstro after smoking at Pleasure Island - but... but... that means, Pinocchio's trip to Pleasure Island was - in story terms - beneficial. Not only do you seem to have no problem with a two day old child learning how to smoke themselves out of a whale (where you seem to have problems with him potentially learning other stuff - or at least "cottoning on" a little more), but how does that square up to the "moral" of the story that he shouldn't have gone there in the first place. Without going, Pinocchio and company would just be left to rot in the whale. So even the moral message is unclear and muddled, because it's generally accepted inside the film itself, Pinocchio shouldn't be at Pleasure Island and shouldn't be smoking etc.
No, it comes from the whole attitude and behavior. Please, don't insult me by playing dumb.2099net wrote:So most of this comes down to me using a mild swear word?
Of course I didn't read the rest of your endless blabbering.
You tell me than how Pinocchio would have had the idea otherwise.
