Are You Gay 2? It's a New, More Fabulous Thread!
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Well, you could re-read it, but basically almost everyone in the first gay thread said we can't call those things gay because not every gay guy does them. So they said called it girly, but not all girls do those things either, and really, musical theater and fabulous flamboyant rainbowy glitteryness is more specifically gay, not identified with girls so much. The rainbows and glitter are occasionally used with girls, but they are stronger identified with gays, specially gay boys. And actually rainbows are associated with children and sometimes so is glitter and musicals are often in more children's films than teenage/adult films these days so...xxhplinkxx wrote:So, Mike, let me get this gay... I'm a little confused by your post.
You're saying that we shouldn't call things that are gay.... gay?
I don't get it.
?!??!?!
But I'll keep using my free will and what I believe in to call glitter gay as I love it sooooo much and feel it identifies my gay self!

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Well, personally, calling it girly or gay would be wrong really. It's just that my first instinct is to think "girly." But instincts are usually wrong. Thinking about it, things can't identify a person. It's the person's interest in those things (how they react to them) that identifies a person. So...
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Right on! Though I might say the things that you make identify you...eh, it doesn't matter. I think people know what I mean when I say something like Disney dust identifies me.Disney's Divinity wrote:Thinking about it, things can't identify a person. It's the person's interest in those things (how they react to them) that identifies a person.

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My initial thoughts are O_o and
But that's also because my caffeine level is low at the moment.
*leaves to get some coffee*
Ok back. So, as I've said I often avoid things that could be (or are) considered gay stereotypes for mostly two reasons 1) I don't care for them or am just not interested and 2) I feel like it would be enforcing the stereotype.
I think it's completly silly to have to "gay up" this thread, if I was a straight person reading this thread all I'd see is gay stereotypes being enforced more. Personally I think it's wrong to enforce them *because* people then assume all gay people like those things, act like that etc. Which makes it rather hard I think on those of us who don't because people almost expect us to "say something gay" or "like gay things" etc. When we don't it boggles their mind I think. Also, if I do like things that can be considered a "gay thing" it's not because of that it's because of the simple fact I like it for what it is. For example (even though I don't care for it) Glitter. If I liked glitter it's not because it's a gay thing or any reason similar to that, chances are I like it because it's shiny and I'm easily amused by shiny things.
/ends bad example
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Ok back. So, as I've said I often avoid things that could be (or are) considered gay stereotypes for mostly two reasons 1) I don't care for them or am just not interested and 2) I feel like it would be enforcing the stereotype.
I think it's completly silly to have to "gay up" this thread, if I was a straight person reading this thread all I'd see is gay stereotypes being enforced more. Personally I think it's wrong to enforce them *because* people then assume all gay people like those things, act like that etc. Which makes it rather hard I think on those of us who don't because people almost expect us to "say something gay" or "like gay things" etc. When we don't it boggles their mind I think. Also, if I do like things that can be considered a "gay thing" it's not because of that it's because of the simple fact I like it for what it is. For example (even though I don't care for it) Glitter. If I liked glitter it's not because it's a gay thing or any reason similar to that, chances are I like it because it's shiny and I'm easily amused by shiny things.
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Pfft. Who said anything about straight guys?ajmrowland wrote:Why not just call those "girly" things "feminine", and make it sound less insulting to straight guys?

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Chernabog_Rocks wrote:Talk about good timingBet we can't do that again Plinky. *points to our post times*
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Then watching The Flintstones must have been very odd for you.ajmrowland wrote:Because most people seem to associate gay either with homo, or stupid. I didn't know that gay meant happy until I saw the Producers.

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What about Pinocchio... and Sleeping Beauty, they both mention the word gay too ?!xxhplinkxx wrote:Then watching The Flintstones must have been very odd for you.ajmrowland wrote:Because most people seem to associate gay either with homo, or stupid. I didn't know that gay meant happy until I saw the Producers.
I get what you're saying, and I understand where you come from. But trust me, most straight guys won't "boggle their minds" whenever a gay person isn't acting 'stereotypically gay'. And I personally never equate things people like with their sexual preference. Like, when somebody is a *really big* fan of The Little Mermaid (you know who I'm talking about), I don't automatically assume that person is gay.Chernabog_Rocks wrote:I think it's completly silly to have to "gay up" this thread, if I was a straight person reading this thread all I'd see is gay stereotypes being enforced more. Personally I think it's wrong to enforce them *because* people then assume all gay people like those things, act like that etc. Which makes it rather hard I think on those of us who don't because people almost expect us to "say something gay" or "like gay things" etc. When we don't it boggles their mind I think.
People have thought I was gay, too. Mostly because I'm not your 'stereotypical straight guy'. I don't like any sports, I couldn't care less about cars and almost all my friends are girls. I just get along way better with them. I don't mind hanging around with guys, but I find it to be too limiting. The things you can talk about when you're around guys, they're often superficial. With girls, you can talk about what really interests you, and you can talk about more than just hobbies, work or what was on tv last night. Or maybe that's just my experience, I dunno...
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Well, I wasn't referring to just straight guys, I meant people in generalGoliath wrote: I get what you're saying, and I understand where you come from. But trust me, most straight guys won't "boggle their minds" whenever a gay person isn't acting 'stereotypically gay'. And I personally never equate things people like with their sexual preference. Like, when somebody is a *really big* fan of The Little Mermaid (you know who I'm talking about), I don't automatically assume that person is gay.
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