Toy Story 3

[Joshua Clinard]

Yeah, it's a bad idea. I don't know that it'll happen though. It won't happen for a few years anyways, so it may get scrapped when Eisner's successor steps in probably early next year.

[Grunches]

Yeah, it's a bad idea. I don't know that it'll happen though. It won't happen for a few years anyways, so it may get scrapped when Eisner's successor steps in probably early next year.

Lets hope Eisner's successor comes very soon!

[goofystitch]

It will be interesting to see if it actually does well without Pixar. In my opinion, it makes Disney seem like an evil power makeing a sequel to a Pixar film without Pixar. I hope they have a good story. Buzz and Woody aren't that interesting without a good story. I hope the Disney executives have their thinking caps on and aren't clouded by greed. But that seems doubtful.

[AwallaceUNC]

Well I've got to take a stand that might surprise some of you and defend TS3, or at least defending its potential. I don't think it's fair to say Disney is just taking Pixar's stuff and running- it's partly Disney's too, and Pixar agreed to this. Granted, Disney (to my knowledge) wasn't extensively involved with the first two in terms of creativity, I think that the TS movies are connotated with Disney moreso than Pixar (which isn't AS true as some of the other Dis/Pixar productions). So, I think Disney can do a very good job with TS3 and I won't feel as if it is any less complete without Pixar (IF they do a good job, I'll reserve judgement until I see it). To be fair, I'm not a huge Pixar fan and don't agree that Disney's biggest mistake was losing them. The bigger mistake was allowing Pixar to flourish as an independent company under Disney's guidance-- essentially creating their own biggest competition AND forcing themselves into a world of CGI at the same time.

-Aaron

[MickeyMouseboy]

Pixar should release TS3 too lol TS3 - Toys against cheapquels

[Uncle Remus]

i think Disney should not make a Toy Story 3. even though there are many trilogy movies out there, Toy Story should not be a trilogy. Toy Story 2 ended on a positive note so Disney has no right to continue from there.

[Jens]

Disney has every right to continue from there. If Toy Story 3 will be a good movie, why not let it be a trilogy? I mean, it's not that Disney isn't knowing what they are doing with cgi animation. Look at Chicken Little! Some of you think it's plain and all, but if you look closely you can see hairs on some animals from the movie and Pixar said that they had to creat a whole new engine to be able to do that with Sully from Monsters Inc. Why is everyone so negative towards this as it is -after all- a movie that is all about the story and animation and NOT about WHO created it. I will also reserve my judgement untill I see some screencaps of it, but untill then I stay positive about it.

[2099net]

Well, as you know, I defend the right of Disney to make sequels to their films. But I don't really agree with makeing sequels to Pixar's films.

But this was the agteement Pixar made with Disney and they knew it would happen when they left. So... well, I suppose I'm indifferent.

I can't see Disney getting Tom Hanks back (but I can see them getting Tim Allen back).

[Uncle Remus]

Jens and everyone else at Ultimate Disney: let me show you a couple of reasons why Toy Story 3 will not be good as the other Toy Story movies:

Star Wars IV: $460 million
Star Wars V: $290 million
Star Wars VI: $309 million
note: the totals for Star Wars movies also contain the results when it was rereleased in theaters in 1997

Raiders of the Lost Ark: $245 million
Temple of Doom: $179 million
The Last Crusade: $197 million

The Matrix: $171 million
The Matrix Reloaded: $281 million
The Matrix Revolutions: $139 million (for right now)

Terminator: $9 million (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
Terminator 2: $204 million
Terminator 3: $150 million

Jurassic Park: $357 million
The Lost World: $229 million
Jurassic Park 3: $181 million

Home Alone: $285 million
Home Alone 2: $173 million
Home Alone 3: $30 million

Austin Powers: $53 million
Austin Powers 2: $205 million
Goldmember: $213 million

Batman: $251 million
Batman Returns: $162 million
Batman Forever: $184 million
Batman and Robin: $107 million


Back to the Future: $210 million
Back to the Future 2: $118 million
Back to the Future 3: $87 million

as you can of all these trilogies, the Toy Story trilogy is going to end up like the Matrix trilogy since the second movie made more than the first movie.

[Luke]

1) What does box office gross have to do with how good a movie is?

2) How can you predict how much a Toy Story 3 would make based on other trilogies?

Toy Story 2 was a hell of a lot more popular and better-received than The Matrix Reloaded. But there are so many more factors to consider than simply looking at the way other trilogies performed. Time in between movies, for instance. There was about 6 months in between The Matrix Reloaded and The Matrix Revolutions. There would be at least 7 years between Toy Story 2 and Toy Story 3.



And of course, there's the issue of Pixar involvement. Maybe some parents who'd take their kids to see a Toy Story 3 wouldn't know (or care) if Pixar is involved or not. But that will certainly be mentioned in reviews, and unless somehow Disney can pull off an amazing story and structure on their own, it would be sorely lacking the Pixar involvement.

Looking back over the past 10 years, I don't believe Disney's had a single animated movie which can compare with Pixar's five films. That's not to say they haven't had a good number of very good films. But Pixar's have been better as films, regardless of the look and technology.

[Jake Lipson]

Well, in the past 10 years there was The Lion King, ten years old now, so that compares. And IMHO there have been a few from Disney that compare more recently -- Lilo & Stitch is the best of course -- but yeah, largely Disney has gone downhill since TLK.

And as for TS3 -- If for some reason Pixar comes back to Disney and does this, it will be brilliant and I will embrace it wholeheartedly. If Disney creates it (wheather it is Feature Animation or the DTV people) I will boycott it on principle and will consider the series over with the second one. These characters deserve the chance to be given closure by Pixar and Pixar alone.

[Luke]

Well, in the past 10 years there was The Lion King, ten years old now, so that compares. And IMHO there have been a few from Disney that compare more recently -- Lilo & Stitch is the best of course -- but yeah, largely Disney has gone downhill since TLK.

Well I meant the 10 different years from 1995 through 2004. I obviously wasn't considering The Lion King.

[MutantEnemy]

How embarassing for Disney if Toy Story 3 bombs!!! I didn't see any of the Toy Story films in theaters because honestly, they looked boring!!!

[MutantEnemy]

Oh as a side note, Jake your avatar looks like The Lion King died

[Luke]

How embarassing for Disney if Toy Story 3 bombs!!! I didn't see any of the Toy Story films in theaters because honestly, they were boring!!!

And you knew this before you decided to not see them in theaters?

[MutantEnemy]

I guess I should've clarified, I've seen them, just not during their theatrical run,I've seen them on TV (Wonderful World of Disney, Disney Channel, etc.)

[Jens]

Uncle Remus, like Luke says a movie is not popular if it is popular in the box office. A lot of people don't go to theatres and just buy the dvd or vhs. I certainly won't boycot Toy Story 3. I will give it a chance, just like I'm giving all Disney movies a chance. Really, some of you people make me sick. Judging a Disney movie while no real information is released yet is just pathetic in my opinion. Really, just wait untill you see it, then you can have your own personal opinion about it like MutantEnemy does with the other 2 TS movies.

[MickeyMousePal]

Just make Toy Story 3.

Please with or without Pixar.

PLease!

[Jens]

I can't see Disney getting Tom Hanks back (but I can see them getting Tim Allen back).

Yeah... Tom Hanks is up for a Toy Story 3 movie though, only not sure if he's up for Toy Story 3 from Disney. You can read the article here where he states that he's up for a third one:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/020703/242/d2n6q.html

[AwallaceUNC]

Uncle Remus, I can't follow your logic here... Toy Story is an entirely different animal. You can say most sequels don't perform as well as their predecessors, I can agree with you there. obviously, though, it's not always the case (I can cite the Austin Powers trilogy from your very list as evidence of that). But I'll even agree that TS2 probably wouldn't be as successful (who knows, though), but by no means does that mean it would flop. And, like everyone has been saying, quality and profit don't always share a strong corrolation.

I will agree, however, that if TS3 WAS a flop, it would be highly embarassing for Disney (a point I made a month or 2 ago, the last time this was discussed). Disney runs a risk here... they don't want to look like they can't keep up the game w/o Pixar. I think that's probably why they are holding off on this project for a few years.

-Aaron