Pinocchio Platinum Edition Discussion Thread

[goofystitch]

Sorry to go off topic, but geniuswalt, how is The Art of Disney? I've been thinking about importing a copy for a while, but I haven't been able to find a review or anything in English about what is on it.

[geniuswalt]

I don't mind at all.
I wanted to buy a copy but it's way too expensive for me (and I already have the exhibit catalog too boot). So I was lucky enough to find it online for free

I watched it today and while it's stunning for the art shown and for some
info in it, it is in many ways fairly fluffy Disney PR stuff. But I'm glad I have it nonetheless.

[PatrickvD]

So Germany is getting some type of Blu-Ray Boxed set:



was this already posted somewhere?

[Rudy Matt]

...but you have to get away that screen grabs on computers AUTOMATICALLY represent the image as it appears as viewed on a television. The two formats have totally different colour spaces. Unless you know how the screen grab was taken, and with what settings, its next to meaningless as it has no context.

You also have to get away from the idea that what you're used to is also something that will have been altered, probably quite dramatically, for television/home viewing. Yes, in doing so, they obviously sought to replicate the original as closely as possible on the less capable system, but you can't just take those transfers and re-use them on purely digital media.

You have too much common sense and education, 2099 -- don't you know that your first response to any seeming difference between screengrabs from a 1992 videotape and a 21st century highdef restoration is supposed to be emotional outrage?

[wildphantom]

I don't have a major opinion on the blu-ray master of Pinocchio as I haven't seen it yet - and none of you have either.

I'll chime in once I've seen it.

Pinocchio is my favourite film maybe of all time and I have seen it so many times its ridiculous.

Whoever it was in this thread that reckons blu-ray is a scam just loses credibility for me straight away. Whatever mate.

Anyone who has the blu-ray of Sleeping Beauty knows what a staggering job they did on that. It looked like you were looking at the cells they painted on! Its the best the film has ever looked, regardless of small subtleties many might whinge about.
If you prefer to watch your original VHS over the BR presentation then fine. Matter of preference.

Next you'll be telling me that the DVD of Zulu looks better than the blu-ray.

Based on the trailer for Pinocchio alone on blu-ray (and i don't expect the trailer footage to be representative of the final product) the animation style was more evident than we've ever seen it due to what high-definition can show due to said resolution. The Monstro clips looked staggering. The pastel textures that were painstakingly used were there for all to see - something DVD would never be able to show to the same extent.

I may chime in next month and criticise the new transfer; but I doubt it somehow.

If they go back and play with the original animation (Lion King DVD release) then I have a problem.

But that PC screenshot comparison I saw with and without the shadows - are you kidding me? You are judging the new master, of which you haven't seen, on HD grabs from something that probably isn't representative of what you're actually going to see in March.

The proof will be in the pudding - I expect another astonishing transfer.
Those that refuse to convert to blu-ray, more fool you. Walt would have loved a format that could reveal a level of detail not seen outside those that actually made the films.

[Rudy Matt]

People won't have a choice to convert to High Definition.

Like the death of VHS, it will happen eventually. Just a matter of time.

[Widdi]

People won't have a choice to convert to High Definition.

Like the death of VHS, it will happen eventually. Just a matter of time.

Again, not necessarily.

I will embrace Blu Ray when and if it becomes the dominant format, until then I, like millions of others right now, can't afford to risk my money on a technology that could be dead in a year or two.

Blu Ray is not the innovation DVD was. Is it a better format? Yes, is it an improvement that so drastically improves over its predecessor? Not in the least.

DVD was a turn in the road. Take it or, you die. Blu Ray is just an alternative route.

[wildphantom]

People won't have a choice to convert to High Definition.

Like the death of VHS, it will happen eventually. Just a matter of time.

Again, not necessarily.

I will embrace Blu Ray when and if it becomes the dominant format, until then I, like millions of others right now, can't afford to risk my money on a technology that could be dead in a year or two.

Blu Ray is not the innovation DVD was. Is it a better format? Yes, is it an improvement that so drastically improves over its predecessor? Not in the least.

DVD was a turn in the road. Take it or, you die. Blu Ray is just an alternative route.

Out of interest, when did you decide DVD was doing well enough to join that bandwagon?

Blu-ray is out-pacing where DVD was in its life-cycle - it isn't going anywhere.

Hasn't Dark Knight shifted 3 million copies on blu-ray already? Astonishing numbers for a format this new.

It won't become the dominant format for a good few years yet.

But it will happen.

If you're an animation fanatic I'd beg, borrow, steal - anything to get on board. It is nirvana for film fans.

[Sotiris]

I wanted to buy a copy but it's way too expensive for me (and I already have the exhibit catalog too boot). So I was lucky enough to find it online for free

Could you please give me the link? I want it also!

So Germany is getting some type of Blu-Ray Boxed set:

This is so bloody unfair The US release gets a worthless plush (no offense to those who actually like them) and Germany gets a cool boxset.

[Rudy Matt]

Why is it unfair?

Look, because Europeans have less disposable incomes, for myriads of reasons (social, political, and economic that we don't want to get into, right?), Disney has to fight harder for their money.

And if you want what they're getting, you can spend the money to import it.

I don't get this "fairness" business. What I understand is the free market.

[SpringHeelJack]

It's a box. I could care less. An okay box, but still a box and something I wouldn't have on my shelf anyhow.

[CampbellzSoup]

People won't have a choice to convert to High Definition.

Like the death of VHS, it will happen eventually. Just a matter of time.

Again, not necessarily.

I will embrace Blu Ray when and if it becomes the dominant format, until then I, like millions of others right now, can't afford to risk my money on a technology that could be dead in a year or two.

Blu Ray is not the innovation DVD was. Is it a better format? Yes, is it an improvement that so drastically improves over its predecessor? Not in the least.

DVD was a turn in the road. Take it or, you die. Blu Ray is just an alternative route.

That's why I invested in a PS3 so I can play games AND get more out of Blu Ray...and you knwo what if it dies at least I lived in the now, and got the most out of my titles that I could.

[2099net]

It's a box. I could care less. An okay box, but still a box and something I wouldn't have on my shelf anyhow.

But inside the box are diamonds, rubies and pearls. Perhaps.

I notice the box is in English ("Special Edition"), but the cover is not. Meaning it may appear in other European countries too.

[CampbellzSoup]

Notice how it also says 3 disc special edition

[geniuswalt]

Notice how it also says 3 disc special edition

That's because, as previously announced, they'll include the SD DVD.

[KubrickFan]

Next you'll be telling me that the DVD of Zulu looks better than the blu-ray.

I wouldn't use that title as an example for Blu-Ray, because it was rather heavily DNR'ed, and all the fine detail (as a result of removing the grain) has been gone. Judging from the caps floating around it looks too artificial.

[CampbellzSoup]

Oh rats...I wonder why we keep getting the DVD version with our Blu Rays...although I'm not making an issue of it!

[Flanger-Hanger]

It's a box. I could care less. An okay box, but still a box and something I wouldn't have on my shelf anyhow.

A blu-ray's a blu-ray but the box could be anything! It could even be a blu-ray! You know how much I wanted one of those! I'll take the box.

[The_Iceflash]

Again, not necessarily.

I will embrace Blu Ray when and if it becomes the dominant format, until then I, like millions of others right now, can't afford to risk my money on a technology that could be dead in a year or two.

Blu Ray is not the innovation DVD was. Is it a better format? Yes, is it an improvement that so drastically improves over its predecessor? Not in the least.

DVD was a turn in the road. Take it or, you die. Blu Ray is just an alternative route.

Out of interest, when did you decide DVD was doing well enough to join that bandwagon?

Blu-ray is out-pacing where DVD was in its life-cycle - it isn't going anywhere.

Hasn't Dark Knight shifted 3 million copies on blu-ray already? Astonishing numbers for a format this new.

It won't become the dominant format for a good few years yet.

But it will happen.

If you're an animation fanatic I'd beg, borrow, steal - anything to get on board. It is nirvana for film fans.

People were saying the same about PS3's sales initially when comparing it to PS2's sales in the beginning. That don't mean anything.

Blu-ray is an alternate route. I know many are overly optimistic but Blu-ray isn't the second coming of DVD. We won't see history repeat itself. Just like people who were/are thinking the PS3 is the second coming of the PS2.

I also would like to know where you bought your crystal ball.

[The_Iceflash]

It's a box. I could care less. An okay box, but still a box and something I wouldn't have on my shelf anyhow.

A blu-ray's a blu-ray but the box could be anything! It could even be a blu-ray! You know how much I wanted one of those! I'll take the box.

I love family guy.