Loss of Quality in the Platinum Editions?

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That is easily the best post on page 10 :lol: and very true as well.

However, assuming that 101 Dalmatians will be the last PE film released on blu-ray, it will once again miss out on the "fuller" extensive treatment the earlier dvds/blu-rays recieved. Seems like this film is doomed to be a less-than-great-yet-fairly-decent dvd.
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The new release slate is different than the old one, since this time around, they're starting with SB. Maybe 101 will get released in only a few years?

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ajmrowland wrote:The new release slate is different than the old one, since this time around, they're starting with SB. Maybe 101 will get released in only a few years?
...or, because it was the PE released last without a concurrent Blu-ray, it might still get the shaft. It's not like they're doing a whole new release slate. To our knowledge so far, it's following the same as the original except with Fantasia thrown in to even it out.
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I have a feeling that The platinum editions might be having a major step up in quality. I mean from the specs, were having a documentary that is almost an hour long, an audo commentary, what will hopfully be a good restoration, trailers,deleted material ,and the sweatbox featurette. And for Snow white they can add all of the old bbonus meaterials ,plus new new video clips. And fantasia can just add everything from the old release. Batb and tlk will need ragor to have make their platinum editions bettter. Alice will just need most of the laserdisc mateial and a good hour or so documentary, and a documentary. Aladdin (if included) was so good any new extras will make it even better.
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schoollover wrote:I have a feeling that The platinum editions might be having a major step up in quality. I mean from the specs, were having a documentary that is almost an hour long, an audo commentary, what will hopfully be a good restoration, trailers,deleted material ,and the sweatbox featurette. And for Snow white they can add all of the old bbonus meaterials ,plus new new video clips. And fantasia can just add everything from the old release. Batb and tlk will need ragor to have make their platinum editions bettter. Alice will just need most of the laserdisc mateial and a good hour or so documentary, and a documentary. Aladdin (if included) was so good any new extras will make it even better.
I really hope you're right... right now I'm waiting to see what specs the new Snow White release will have, and that will determine whether or not I get the previous dvd release. And so far, Disney seems to have said that their "brand new" releases of old previous editions will be lame and completely lackluster..

(and that jumbled mess makes little sense to me because I'm tired x_x)
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Of course they are. Disney wants to sell the same movies to you again either on the same format (DVD), or pushing the new Blu-ray format to film enthusiast early-adaptors.

There's no magical "Disney listened to the complaints" type miracle. It's just Disney seeking to sell more copies of the release. It's just business sense.

Note that most of their normal DVDs are still somewhat lacking, especially the ones they know that they'll want to try and sell you again in a few months/years.

HSM3 is appallingly lacking in features, especially on the Blu-ray. Not only could all the Blu-ray exclusives be put on the DVD, but the Blu-ray could of had a lot more features itself - a Commentary? PiP rehearsal footage alongside the dancing sequences? The seemingly standard now "learn to dance" supplement? The ability to select the theatrical or extended edition of the film?
Most of my Blu-ray collection some of my UK discs aren't on their database
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All those will likely be included on some future edition to get the kid's parents to buy it again for them. You'd have to be stupid to waste your money on this release knowing Disney's past methods for this franchise.
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You'd be wasting your money for buying any release of that sad, sad film. get HSM2 instead, it's by far the best! (i seem to be the only one who thinks so)

I think the only PEs that suffered horribly were Peter Pan, The Jungle Book and 101 Dalmatians. 11 outta 14 is pretty good.
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yukitora wrote:You'd be wasting your money for buying any release of that sad, sad film. get HSM2 instead, it's by far the best! (i seem to be the only one who thinks so)

I think the only PEs that suffered horribly were Peter Pan, The Jungle Book and 101 Dalmatians. 11 outta 14 is pretty good.
The incorrect aspect ratio on the Jungle Book (severed heads, anyone?) was by far the biggest Platinum Edition blunder. Guess Disney is hoping
we'll buy the super spiffy correct-aspect-ratio bluray when it comes out :roll:
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geniuswalt wrote:The incorrect aspect ratio on the Jungle Book (severed heads, anyone?) was by far the biggest Platinum Edition blunder. Guess Disney is hoping
we'll buy the super spiffy correct-aspect-ratio bluray when it comes out :roll:
It's the Original Theatrical Aspect ratio, so it is the correct one.
And most of the Platinum Editions were a bit uninspired. "Let's put in a making of that's around 45 minutes long, a featurette focused on one thing, and some deleted scenes. Maybe an audio commentary". Let's hope Disney does hold up the standard they gave us with the Sleeping Beauty Blu-Ray.
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i love the platinum collection dvd's but i have to agree they have gone down drastically in quality. in my opinion the first few were rather good in bonus features, but the later ones concentrate too much on new versions of the songs performed by teens and games. i'd rather see in-depth commentaries on how the film came about.
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KubrickFan wrote:
geniuswalt wrote:The incorrect aspect ratio on the Jungle Book (severed heads, anyone?) was by far the biggest Platinum Edition blunder. Guess Disney is hoping
we'll buy the super spiffy correct-aspect-ratio bluray when it comes out :roll:
It's the Original Theatrical Aspect ratio, so it is the correct one.
And most of the Platinum Editions were a bit uninspired. "Let's put in a making of that's around 45 minutes long, a featurette focused on one thing, and some deleted scenes. Maybe an audio commentary". Let's hope Disney does hold up the standard they gave us with the Sleeping Beauty Blu-Ray.
It may be the original theatrical aspect ratio but it still was a matted version.
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geniuswalt wrote:It may be the original theatrical aspect ratio but it still was a matted version.
let's see, where to begin.

Matted=original theatrical aspect ratio for DAC from 101 Dalmatians to Fox and the Hound + Great Mouse Detective. You want the original animated ratio? That's a whole other story.

I'd rather not argue, yet again, about this but feel free to search for the other thread of this topic. Or read UD's article on aspect ratios (does anybody here even know about the main page?).
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I thought
Snow White to Peter Pan are 1.33/7:1
Lady & the Tramp and Sleeping Beauty are 2.55:1
One Hundred and One Dalmatians to The Fox and the Hound are Dual 1.33:1 and 1.75:1
Black Cauldron is 2.20:1
Great Mouse Detective to Home on the Range except Dinosaur, Atlantis and BB are 1.66:1
Chicken Little on is 1.85:1

I don't really care, as long as both versions are offered for '61-'81 going forward, though with Blu-ray, I doubt that.
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cms382 wrote:I thought
Snow White to Peter Pan are 1.33/7:1
Lady & the Tramp and Sleeping Beauty are 2.55:1
One Hundred and One Dalmatians to The Fox and the Hound are Dual 1.33:1 and 1.75:1
Black Cauldron is 2.20:1
Great Mouse Detective to Home on the Range except Dinosaur, Atlantis and BB are 1.66:1
Chicken Little on is 1.85:1

I don't really care, as long as both versions are offered for '61-'81 going forward, though with Blu-ray, I doubt that.
All correct but Mouse Detective is matted to 1.66:1. Oliver is true 1.66:1 and Little Mermaid is 1.78:1 (more on the sides than the 1.66:1 release).

But there are many other topics for aspect ratios and this should just be about the PEs.
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Since I got a lot of Disney DVDs in a short amount of time last fall, I didn't really notice the quantity/quality of the bonus features, though I did watch them. I was bummed to pop in the more recent releases again and see that they were lacking compared to Aladdin, Alice, and Pocahontas. (I have no Platinums before TLM except for Aladdin)

I think all of the "what might have been" things have overtaken the "what was" things, and that's not a good thing.

Pinocchio looks promising though, and Sleeping Beauty was a delight on Blu-Ray.
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cms382 wrote:Since I got a lot of Disney DVDs in a short amount of time last fall, I didn't really notice the quantity/quality of the bonus features, though I did watch them. I was bummed to pop in the more recent releases again and see that they were lacking compared to Aladdin, Alice, and Pocahontas. (I have no Platinums before TLM except for Aladdin)

I think all of the "what might have been" things have overtaken the "what was" things, and that's not a good thing.

Pinocchio looks promising though, and Sleeping Beauty was a delight on Blu-Ray.
Snow White, BatB, and the Lion King are rather rich in supplements, though the latter has a lot less than the Laserdisc, and often repeats itself, the Virtual Safari is fun.
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I just sat down tonight at watched "The Lion King: Platinum Edition" and all of it's wonderful bonus features. I know TLK's Platinum Edition release often gets a lot of ridicule, but I think it's actually quite good. Yeah, the menus are a bit annoying and they way everything is all separated out - but still, there is a lot of good stuff there. There isn't a specifically titled "Making Of" segment, but with all the bonus features that are present - it pretty much tells the story of how the film was made, and more. In my opinion, TLK is one of the better Platinum Editions in terms of content and bonus features. It just reminded me about how I sat down a couple nights ago to watch the Pinocchio Platinum Edition. It makes me so sad/angry to see what a far cry the past 3 or 4 Platinum Edition releases are from the first 6 or 7 PE releases.
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Simba3 wrote:I just sat down tonight at watched "The Lion King: Platinum Edition" and all of it's wonderful bonus features. I know TLK's Platinum Edition release often gets a lot of ridicule, but I think it's actually quite good. Yeah, the menus are a bit annoying and they way everything is all separated out - but still, there is a lot of good stuff there. There isn't a specifically titled "Making Of" segment, but with all the bonus features that are present - it pretty much tells the story of how the film was made, and more. In my opinion, TLK is one of the better Platinum Editions in terms of content and bonus features. It just reminded me about how I sat down a couple nights ago to watch the Pinocchio Platinum Edition. It makes me so sad/angry to see what a far cry the past 3 or 4 Platinum Edition releases are from the first 6 or 7 PE releases.
Actually, it's more like how much of a far cry the last 5 or 6 PE releases are from the first 3 or 4. Sleeping Beauty, though, still has lots of good stuff, and I'm happy with that one.
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I've always thought in terms of material "The Lion King" had a really solid DVD release... the only problem is that it's all chopped up and scattered across the most confusing menu system I've ever seen.
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