The 3 "classic" CE dvd's (Tarzan, Emperor's, Atlan

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The 3 "classic" CE dvd's (Tarzan, Emperor's, Atlan

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I finally got the Tarzan Collectors Edition dvd, and I am thrilled with it!

Now I am starting to consider getting The Emperors New Groove CE....is this worth it? I know the dvd sounds great (it had a lot of the "behind the animation" stuff that I really like) but how's the movie?? Is it good, or is it kinda stupid and corny? Thanks!

Also, if I get the Emperors New Groove CE, I'm probabaly going to want the Atlantis CE dvd to complete the set! aaaargh! I heard that was an awful movie! So I don't know WHAT to do!!
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Please give me some advice!
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both movies are great mermaid kelly! I'm very fond of atlantis, It's the first action disney movie with explosive and action and for been Disney it's a great movie that I never thought they could ever make! If you have a DVD-Rom the Tarzan CE has the tarzan video game for your pc so does the TENG CE. TENG is a hilarious movie! get it! you wont regret it! as for the CE I wasnt very happy with it, the documentaries with the directors was so stupid. I don;t know if they were really acting like idiots or if they were really like that. besides that annoying part the rest of the set was good as far of extras but over all the best CE Disney has made so far has to be atlantis CE!
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The Emperor's New Groove is a great film that I'm pretty sure you'll love. Practically everyone I know who's seen it has loved it, and the DVD's great, too. Atlantis isn't as bad as everyone says, but it's definitely not one of Disney's best. Still, you should get it for your collection, and it's worth watching at least once. The Atlantis: CE is one of the best Disney DVD's ever produced (I'm working on a review for it for this site).
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I'm not sure if others will agree with me here, but if you liked Aladdin and Hercules' humor, you will LOVE Emperor's New Groove. It is my favourite Disney film from the last few years. And the CE is definitely worth it!

I'd say: go for it! :lol: :)

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I wish I had the Tarzan Collectors Edition, The Emperor's New Groove CE and Atlantis CE.
Oh well I hope they re-relase Tarzan because I don't have it.
I have Emperor's New Groove and Atlantis on the regular DVD. :cry:
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The Emperor's New Groove is quite a funny movie and even when it's not being funny, it's entertaining. It's fast-paced and self-aware of the formulas it's using and departing from. Definitely worth getting.

Atlantis, on the other hand, is a genuine stinker, at least as much as a Disney animated film can be. Instead of characters, there are accents - people swing from protagonist to antagonist and back, with no rhyme or reason. The concept is interesting, but the execution of the plot is anything but. I own it, bought it unseen. Do I regret buying it? No. Have I watched it much in the past two years? No, not at all.

So, definitely get The Emperor's New Groove first, and maybe give Atlantis a rental if you ever do that?
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Post by Mermaid Kelly »

Ok... thanks everyone :)

I think I'll go buy Emperors New Groove this Weekend! :D

As for Atlantis, I'll take Luke's opinion and rent it sometime.

Thanks again!!! :thumb:
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Emperor's New Groove is great, as long as you expect something that is completely light-hearted and comedy-based. The first time I saw it, I expected it to be a little more serious than it was (despite the trailers), and I didn't realize how 'fluffy' it would be. But as a comedy, it definately works, and it can be hilarious at times. I don't own the Collector's Edition (yet), but I recommend it nonetheless.

If you haven't seen Atlantis, take my advice: DO NOT BUY IT BLIND. It's one of the very few Disney classics I genuinely dislike. It starts off well enough, but quickly becomes dull. I found it impossible to truly connect or care for any of the characters. As others have said, it had potential, but it wasn't delivered right. As long as you like the film somewhat, the CE would be a good buy, it appears.
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I am with Luke the words Atlantis and Classic do not belong in the same post together.

Only the Black Cauldron keeps it from being the worst Disney animiated movie ever.
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Quote: "Emperor's New Groove is great, as long as you expect something that is completely light-hearted and comedy-based. The first time I saw it, I expected it to be a little more serious than it was (despite the trailers), and I didn't realize how 'fluffy' it would be."


At the beginning of the creative process that led to The Emperor's New Groove it was supposed to be more serious, as far as I understand, and it even had a different name, Kingdom of (or in?) the Sun. The project didn't turn out the way it was supposed to, but there was too much money in it by then to simply abandon it, so they basically took the leftovers and reshaped it into this comedy.
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JimmyJackJunior wrote:I am with Luke the words Atlantis and Classic do not belong in the same post together.

Only the Black Cauldron keeps it from being the worst Disney animiated movie ever.
I'd give that honor to Mulan or Lilo & Stitch way before either of these. But I don't really dislike any of the animated classics that I've seen.

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Atlantis, Mulan, and The Black Cauldron are all great movies. These 3 movies are in my top 10 favorites. Disney needs variety. Disney can not have fairy tale movies over and over. It would get people bored and would not attract new people into watching them They are also eay better then The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh. Nonetheless, all the animated classics deserve 2-disk treatment!!
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I'm glad you got the special edition of "Tarzan", Kelly! It certainly is one of the DVDs ever!

As for the others, they are great movies and their DVDs are even better, but I wouldn't recomend a blind buy.
"The Emperor's New Groove" is darn funny, and it pays homage to Chuck Jones and the classic Looney Tunes cartoons. The DVD has lots of bonuses, but it leaves something to be desired, because it includes almost nothing of the original version of the film, "Kingdom of the Sun" (a good handful of scenes were already completed, like Yzma's musical number, "Snuff Out The Light" - a shot of this scene can be seen in the original trailer).

As for "Atlantis", I know it is a flawed film, but I really love the sense of adventure in it. It has breathtaking action scenes (though I wish they could be longer), a great score and wonderful animation. It is completely different from everything Disney has ever produced.
But the DVD... oh, the DVD! Even if you don't like the movie, the DVD is worth the price alone. It has a demo DTS track which puts to shame a lot of action movies out there and TONS and TONS of extras! The making of alone has 2 HOURS! Plus, there are lots of aditional featurettes, animation tests, deleted sequences, countless galleries... If you like this kind of stuff, you won't regred getting it!
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castleinthesky wrote:Atlantis, Mulan, and The Black Cauldron are all great movies. These 3 movies are in my top 10 favorites. Disney needs variety. Disney can not have fairy tale movies over and over. It would get people bored and would not attract new people into watching them They are also eay better then The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh. Nonetheless, all the animated classics deserve 2-disk treatment!!
im with u....disney needs variety...MULAN IS ONE OF THE BEST DISNEY MOVIES HANDS DOWN imo
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JimmyJackJunior wrote:I am with Luke the words Atlantis and Classic do not belong in the same post together.

Only the Black Cauldron keeps it from being the worst Disney animiated movie ever.
I thought Atlantis was good. Why was it bad in your opinon and why shouldn't it have been in the antimated series?
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JaYDiSNeY wrote: im with u....disney needs variety...MULAN IS ONE OF THE BEST DISNEY MOVIES HANDS DOWN imo
We will have to agree to disagree, there :P

I like ENG, and think Atlantis is ok. I'm getting the CE for Atlantis (and will get Tarzan off eBay sometime), but I got the regular edition of ENG. For one, I like it, but don't love it... and I didn't think that the CE looked a lot more 'worth it' than the regular, unlike Atlantis & Tarzan. I don't actually have the ENG CE though, so I can't say for sure, but that's just my take.

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Luke wrote:Atlantis, on the other hand, is a genuine stinker, at least as much as a Disney animated film can be. Instead of characters, there are accents - people swing from protagonist to antagonist and back, with no rhyme or reason. The concept is interesting, but the execution of the plot is anything but. I own it, bought it unseen. Do I regret buying it? No. Have I watched it much in the past two years? No, not at all.
Gasp! As much as it pains me, I have to disagree with Luke on this one (I know, please forgive me Luke - I know not what I do). In fact, I could not disagree more.

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I will admit that some of the characters are caricatures , but I find this part of the charm. It harks back to the old adventure stories that were full of people with various expertise or qualities. This dynamic served Gilligan's Island well for years (ok, not helping my case am I? :P)! In fact, I would say it was far more interesting have these types of characters, rather than say...Mulan or Pocahontas, which was going soooo far out of their way so as not to be culturally offensive that they come off as bland.

Ok, even if you disagree with me on the above point, to go so far as to call the film a stinker I think is a bit harsh (I won't say it is wrong, because that would be a little too Ernest Risterish). :) I think Disney really needed a good adventure tale, which seemed to have died along with Disney's successful non-comedy live action movies. And from go to woe, Atlantis is one of the best adventures yarns ever put down on animated films. It has all the elements (maybe a little cliché, but that is half the fun).

The animation itself is also quite stunning. As a comic-book fan, the Mike Mignola inspired characters were brilliant, and the design of the various set pieces were quite stunning.

I would have like to have seen more of the characters and adventures. Judging from the Milo Returns DVD, the series would have been great.

Anyhoo, I bought it blind and not only did I love the movie, but the DVD is a fantastic buy. It is probably one of the most comprehensive looks at the making of an animated film you are ever going to get.

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This film is simply fun. I enjoyed the fact that the animators and writers just let go and had a bunch of silly stuff happen. And there was a cow joke.

Once again, the DVD is brilliant, and is in much the same format as the above. Perhaps the only thing missing is details of the partially completed "Kingdom of the Sun", which was deemed to boring and serious for the punters. I would have like to have seen some of the completed animation, or a doco on how the changes were made and came to be the film I know and love. Otherwise, a damn near perfect set.
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