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a-net-fan wrote:HAHA AND I cant help but laugh at you ppl trying to figure out how Disney is making money off this run! Who cares. I sure dont! Just so they keep releasing waves of Treasures Im going to let them worry about that and just be a fan who is enjoying the product they are offering. :)
Well, lets assume minus all the other costs (subtitling, restoration, authoring, filming, etc) Disney makes $10 profit per sale once retailer, distribution and manufacturing costs are taken out off the price.

That means at a maximum Disney's making $395,000 profit per set. But out of that there's the other costs in assembling and creating and transferring the content mentioned above, which will knock their profits down even more. I really can't see any purely business motivation for Disney to continue, especially as each year, without fail, the number of sets released becomes smaller and smaller.

Disney are a big company, used to doing things BIG! Big numbers, big returns and big profit.
Maybe the idea behind the lower production numbers is they are hoping that it will build some demand for the treasures. You know how ppl get when something is released in a very limited number and is likely to sell out rather quickly......they jump on it nomatter what it is.
But a limited number also limits the turn over and means less profit per sale (as the fixed costs are absorbed by fewer sales).

Disney aren't a charity, and if they could get the same people who work on the Treasures to spend half the time crapping out a Hanna Montanna set or working on the next state of the art Blu-ray Platinum release well, what would you think is most likely to happen?
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You guys are scaring me, so I ordered my copy of Donald Vol. 4 from Amazon.com. While I was there I saw that Mickey Mouse in Black and White Vol. 2 and More Silly Symphonies were in stock so I got those aswell.

How on earth will I get Mickey in B&W Vol. 1 without shelling out loads? :(
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2099net wrote:
a-net-fan wrote:HAHA AND I cant help but laugh at you ppl trying to figure out how Disney is making money off this run! Who cares. I sure dont! Just so they keep releasing waves of Treasures Im going to let them worry about that and just be a fan who is enjoying the product they are offering. :)
Well, lets assume minus all the other costs (subtitling, restoration, authoring, filming, etc) Disney makes $10 profit per sale once retailer, distribution and manufacturing costs are taken out off the price.

That means at a maximum Disney's making $395,000 profit per set. But out of that there's the other costs in assembling and creating and transferring the content mentioned above, which will knock their profits down even more. I really can't see any purely business motivation for Disney to continue, especially as each year, without fail, the number of sets released becomes smaller and smaller.

Disney are a big company, used to doing things BIG! Big numbers, big returns and big profit.
Maybe the idea behind the lower production numbers is they are hoping that it will build some demand for the treasures. You know how ppl get when something is released in a very limited number and is likely to sell out rather quickly......they jump on it nomatter what it is.
But a limited number also limits the turn over and means less profit per sale (as the fixed costs are absorbed by fewer sales).

Disney aren't a charity, and if they could get the same people who work on the Treasures to spend half the time crapping out a Hanna Montanna set or working on the next state of the art Blu-ray Platinum release well, what would you think is most likely to happen?
I see your point...I really do but I just dont understand why you or anyone else would really care or even go as far as to show such concern over how much of a profit Disney is making on this series. It seems so backwards to hear this kind of talk coming from the fans. :) I always read on the forums about how ppl get angered saying Disney is only thinking about the money when making decisions about the products it releases. Weather it be the Old Disney films it chooses to release or what is shown on the Disney Channel now, or the Disney Park attractions it chooses to keep open, tamper with or shut down completely. You are right, the company isnt a charity so obviously they are making enough of a profit to continue with the series. Why speculate why the company continues to cator to the select group of Disney Fans who love and support this series. JUST ENJOY IT and be GREATFUL. Who knows, maybe the only reason these continue to be released is due to some of the big names associated with the project; Leonard and Roy Disney. This just might be nothing more then a labor of love from them. Im just going to keep supporting and enjoying what they give us and I hope everyone else will too. :D
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a-net-fan wrote:HAHA guess it could be started anytime! One person who posted said Leonard mentioned ZORRO being included in the next Treasures wave.
Which I, for one, am hoping turns out to be true! The 4 hour-long episodes (plus a wealth of bonus features) would make a perfect Treasure release.

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Why would they release Zorro in the WDT line since the first season is out to buy on dvd and S2 has just started to be released for DMC?

I think for there to be another wave there is going to have to be an amazing sales figure coming in off the new wave. I think we were thrown a bone here b/c Donald wasn't complete yet and they had the Dr Syn release ready for some time now but just never released it. I've been w/the WDT line since the beginning, and if we get more waves then i'm all for it. I would like another Disney Rairities and the Education shorts, but if this is it then i'm happy w/what we have gotten.

I'm thinking at some point they will stop the WDT series and start up w/releasing compilations on blu-ray.
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chadhobbick wrote:Why would they release Zorro in the WDT line since the first season is out to buy on dvd and S2 has just started to be released for DMC?
Because there are 4 hour long episodes made outside of the seasons as the poster above yo just mentioned and I agree with him/her with my fingers crossed for next year.

Anyway, I asked HMV to hold a copy of Dr Syn for me and then did and I'm picking it up after school tomorrow!
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Flanger-Hanger wrote:
chadhobbick wrote:Why would they release Zorro in the WDT line since the first season is out to buy on dvd and S2 has just started to be released for DMC?
Because there are 4 hour long episodes made outside of the seasons as the poster above yo just mentioned and I agree with him/her with my fingers crossed for next year.

Anyway, I asked HMV to hold a copy of Dr Syn for me and then did and I'm picking it up after school tomorrow!


Yep and those 4 Hour long episodes will fit perfectly in the treasures series. I cant wait!

Also wanted to say how much im enjoying reading the reviews of this waves treasures on the UD site! Great job...2 down 1 more to go!!! Im really sad to read tho that the the Disney Family Album episode with Annette wasnt included as a bonus feature on her volume as was previously announced. This was one thing I was really looking forward to seeing again. Besides that tho, from the review, everything else sounds great about it! Im even anxious to check out Dr Syn after reading the review on it. :)
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Flanger-Hanger wrote:
chadhobbick wrote:Why would they release Zorro in the WDT line since the first season is out to buy on dvd and S2 has just started to be released for DMC?
Because there are 4 hour long episodes made outside of the seasons as the poster above yo just mentioned and I agree with him/her with my fingers crossed for next year.

Anyway, I asked HMV to hold a copy of Dr Syn for me and then did and I'm picking it up after school tomorrow!
Flanger-Hanger:

Your response took the words right out of my mouth!

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chadhobbick wrote: I'm thinking at some point they will stop the WDT series and start up w/releasing compilations on blu-ray.
If you mean re-releasing stuff like the shorts,hopefully they'll also put the same releases out on DVD as well, (like they are doing with the Platinums) for those who missed the OOP ones the first time (such as Silly Symphonies Vol 1, Mickey In Color 1 and 2, Complete Goofy, etc.)

After all, they've always said the content wasn't limited, just the tins.

Why let the Amazon and e-bay resellers make all the coin? :D
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I got my copy of Chrnological Donald Volume 4 at Target earlier today. They only had two copies of each treasure left.
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chadhobbick wrote:...I think for there to be another wave there is going to have to be an amazing sales figure coming in off the new wave. I think we were thrown a bone here b/c Donald wasn't complete yet and they had the Dr Syn release ready for some time now but just never released it. I've been w/the WDT line since the beginning, and if we get more waves then i'm all for it. I would like another Disney Rairities and the Education shorts, but if this is it then i'm happy w/what we have gotten....
I think Disney ought to release the balance of The Swamp Fox and Elfego Baca! Where the Treasures have given us the (nearly, or as much as is available) full library of character favorites, three complete Mickey Mouse Club serials, the full Davy Crockett series, and two complete versions of Dr. Syn, I think the release of SF and EB's remaining episodes would be an obvious concluding step.

Before viewing these Treasure editions, I had only caught a glimpse of The Swamp Fox when it was aired long ago on the subscription-based Disney Channel. And I had never seen or heard of Elfego Baca before its Treasure press release. Still, I purchased the DVD set, and enjoyed them both -- especially Elfego Baca!

Please, Disney, release the rest of The Swamp Fox and Elfego Baca!

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I purchased all three of the new wave of Treasures this morning at Best Buy. I arrived around 10:30 (The store opened at 10:00.), and at that point saw these totals on the shelves:

qty 5 - Donald Vol 4
qty 4 - Annette
qty 3 - Dr. Syn

I also purchased another Donald and Dr. Syn on behalf of my mom. After doing a couple things around the store, I later noticed that the remaining Dr. Syn had been purchased.

As an interesting side note, this particular Best Buy has eleven copies of Donald Duck, Vol. 1! It also has two each of Oswald and Mickey Mouse BW Vol. 2.
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The Certificate number for my Donald DVD was 23,601.
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Dr. Syn finally shipped from Amazon today so all three are on their way. It's nice to know I won't have to go out of my way to find them and I have a feeling these won't last long this year.
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It's interesting to see from Amazon's sales rank, that Dr Syn is outselling Donald 4.
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I went just before opening, seemed to have equal amounts of each title (5) I bought one of each, the other person who waited at opening bought out the remaining Dr. Syn copies and was looking for more
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ichabod wrote:It's interesting to see from Amazon's sales rank, that Dr Syn is outselling Donald 4.
That's true, but wasn't Dr. Syn also one of the highest pre-ordered movies back when they announced it the first time? I haven't seen it so I'm eagerly waiting for it. Of course I'm eagerly awaiting them all but this one really intrigues me.
Tolhurst wrote:I went just before opening, seemed to have equal amounts of each title (5) I bought one of each, the other person who waited at opening bought out the remaining Dr. Syn copies and was looking for more
Let the speculator rampage begin. In all honesty, I hope everyone that wants one gets theirs because I'm sure this isn't the only person doing this. This set could get expensive soon.
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David S. wrote:
chadhobbick wrote: I'm thinking at some point they will stop the WDT series and start up w/releasing compilations on blu-ray.
If you mean re-releasing stuff like the shorts,hopefully they'll also put the same releases out on DVD as well, (like they are doing with the Platinums) for those who missed the OOP ones the first time (such as Silly Symphonies Vol 1, Mickey In Color 1 and 2, Complete Goofy, etc.)

After all, they've always said the content wasn't limited, just the tins.

Why let the Amazon and e-bay resellers make all the coin? :D
I do hope they release the B&W mickeys chronologically if they do blu ray sets down the line
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