Walt Disney Treasures Wave VIII Discussion

[Gurgi30]

So does anyone know if Donald in Mathemagicland will be included on DD Vol 4?

Rumor has it that this will have Donald in Mathmagic Land included in it. Not surprising if true because it doesn't cost them anything to add it.

I'm eagerly awaiting all three sets and while I have them pre-ordered I don't know that I'll be able to wait that long to get them so I'll probably get them elsewhere. While I'd love to see this line continue indefinitely, I'd take one more year that included an education set, the second Hardy Boys serial, and whatever else they wanted to include (Song of the South).

[Big Disney Fan]

So does anyone know if Donald in Mathemagicland will be included on DD Vol 4?

Rumor has it that this will have Donald in Mathmagic Land included in it. Not surprising if true because it doesn't cost them anything to add it.

They will certainly include Mathmagicland. It's part of the official Donald filmography anyway.

[Gurgi30]

Ok. So not a rumor. I don't like to believe anything though until I see it with my own eyes.

[Escapay]

Rumor has it that this will have Donald in Mathmagic Land included in it. Not surprising if true because it doesn't cost them anything to add it.

They will certainly include Mathmagicland. It's part of the official Donald filmography anyway.

We don't know this for sure. Don't state it as if it's fact yet just because it's part of Donald's filmography. After all, the Complete Goofy set omitted some Goofy cartoons that are in his complete filmography: The Reluctant Dragon's "How to Ride a Horse", Saludos Amigos' "El Gaucho Goofy", 1965's "Freewayphobia" and "Goofy's Freeway Trouble", and 1987's "Sport Goofy in Soccermania".

albert

[Heil Donald Duck]

I was really hoping that they would include the three Chip & Dale shorts, like they did with Figaro on the Pluto set....

Personally I have not been a fan of cartoons that weren't theatrically released.

The quality is so much better. But thats dosen't meens that I don't wants to gets my hands on stuff from the Disney anthology TV series and early animated TV stuff.

[Big Disney Fan]

They will certainly include Mathmagicland. It's part of the official Donald filmography anyway.

We don't know this for sure. Don't state it as if it's fact yet just because it's part of Donald's filmography.

But some time ago, some online resources (like AnimatedBliss.com or something) officially made clear the fact that Mathmagicland would indeed be part of Donald 4.

[Escapay]

We don't know this for sure. Don't state it as if it's fact yet just because it's part of Donald's filmography.

But some time ago, some online resources (like AnimatedBliss.com or something) officially made clear the fact that Mathmagicland would indeed be part of Donald 4.

Online sources are always up for debate, even if it comes from an official word of mouth. I'm with Gurgi30 and will wait for the actual disc to come out. After all, Wave 1 originally announced a Buddy Ebsen interview on Davy Crockett, and it got as far as being printed in the case and booklet, but was a complete no-show on the disc.

albert

[Isidro25]

Woah. I'm really surprised at the lack of hype for Donald's unfinished short being included in D4. That alone is worth a buy in my book.

Also, I think Bee on the Beach does deserve to be on the Vault section. While it doesn't contain anything political incorrect, the ending it's probably the cruelest ending ever on any Disney cartoon, let alone Donald. To see the protagonist of your cartoon getting more and more stranded with hungry sharks while the only one that can save him from horrible death laughs at his predicament is just sadistic. Of course, just my two cents.

[Escapay]

UD has confirmed the print run for all three titles is the confusing number of...

39,500

Thanks a lot, Disney. Thanks a lot.

albert

[disneyboy20022]

UD has confirmed the print run for all three titles is the confusing number of...

39,500

Thanks a lot, Disney. Thanks a lot.

albert

So...does this mean there will be 39,500 tins per Tin such or is that the collected number of all 3 tins total such as tin #1 donald could be 15,000 and #2 Dr Syn will be 15,000 and Annette will be 9,500?

[Escapay]

UD has confirmed the print run for all three titles is the confusing number of...

39,500

Thanks a lot, Disney. Thanks a lot.

albert

So...does this mean there will be 39,500 tins per Tin such or is that the collected number of all 3 tins total such as tin #1 donald could be 15,000 and #2 Dr Syn will be 15,000 and Annette will be 9,500?

39,500 each

But if it were 15/15/9.5, I'd be even more pissed off.

albert

[Barbossa]

UD has confirmed the print run for all three titles is the confusing number of...

39,500

Thanks a lot, Disney. Thanks a lot.

albert

Wow, that's low. I wonder if we'll even get any at the local Future Shop next week. I'm going to be getting Donald and Dr. Syn, but I'll pass on Annette. I'm just not familiar enough with her. I know she was a Mouseketeer and all, but you know, I wasn't born in that generation.

Good to see that Donald in Mathmagic Land made it onto Volume 4.

Anybody know when we can expect an announcement/press release about next year's Treasures?

[PrincePhillipFan]

Woah, I'm shocked Disney has given such a low number release. Especially since the Donald cartoons are the biggest sellers probably than any other Treasures. I better make sure I get my copy then ASAP, although other than my local Best Buy, no other place seems to carry new Treasures when they're released.

[chadhobbick]

I wish that they would include a survey in each tin where you had a code, like w/DMR, where you could go online and vote for the next wave of WDT. Each tin has a specific code that lets you vote, and you have until 1/30/2009 to vote so they would have time to get stuff together. Since we, the fans, are purchasing these they should ask us to give a little say in what we would like. They could have a list of six options that they are considering and let us vote on what we would like to see or would most likely support, even have a suggestion box to help them out.

I'm so fricking excited to watch the complete Annette serial. It's been like 6 years since I had started watching it on Vault Disney and then they upped and skipped the rest of the serial.

[disneyboy20022]

Well I just put my order in via amazon.com...I think I used the link so that UD will see the total..I ordered a Pokemon Game for the DS Hellboy II 3-disc and the three Tins...

Luke PLMK if $117.95 shows up as I think I followed the correct directions so that UD/DVDizzy Will get there cookie...but if not PLMK and lmk what I need to do to make sure that all of the items in the one order I made that some of it goes to UD/DVDIZZY

[2099net]

Anybody know when we can expect an announcement/press release about next year's Treasures?

You expect a next year when each set is down to the lowest ever print run of 39,500?

Even BBC Classic Doctor Who DVDs sell this much (and often more, much more - especially if you include US and Australian sales which aren't officially counted in the UK budgets when comissioning the discs) and I've long been hailing them as a triumph of content over sales.

I really doubt the Treasures sets will be turning in much of a profit, if at all. They need restoration, special supplements filmed/commentaries recorded. They've stayed the same price each wave (this in real terms becoming cheaper due to inflation), they still have the tins (with all the added hassle of dented tins being returned) and the print run each and every year continues to drop, except for odd exceptions* (indicating that they're selling less and less copies of each title each year too - or at the very least the same number of copies have a much longer shelf life)

* What was it with Oswald's Print run? Was the world gasping for Oswald on DVD?

[MK Sharp]

Presumably the logic is that if each wave sells out by the time the next waves comes around, they've picked the right number. Thus pressing 50,000 of Chronological Donald Vol 3, which is now unavailable from Amazon and other e-tailers, was a success; whereas there are still new copies of Chronological Donald Vol 2 kicking around from 2005, which suggests that 125,000 was too many.

As for the huge number of Oswalds... blind optimism? Maybe the amount of media interest in the story of how Oswald was returned to the Disney fold misled them, making them overlook the difference between a quirky news story and the public's actual desire to watch 80 year old silent cartoons.

Given that the vast majority of Treasures aren't released outside of the USA, those of us in other countries have to import from the States. Disney are undoubtedly aware of this, which suggests they're anticipating global demand for these titles to be less than 40,000.

Still, fingers crossed the Aussie dollar doesn't slump against the greenback in the next few days - as things stand, the cost of Wave 8 has just dropped back under A$100.

[2099net]

Yeah, but when you're talking about 39,500 WORLDWIDE (more or less, some Treasures are released overseas much later) it's a laughably bad sales figure - especially considering the work and research and filming which needs to be undertaken.

Let's face it, they could slap 5 episodes of Hannah Montanna on a disc, with a short Disney Channel EPK promotion and a music video or two and sell 39,500 copies in less than an hour of it going on sale. And the creation of the DVD wouldn't be as time consuming or costly either. And then they could pimp out the disc to other territories for local releases.

[MK Sharp]

Be fair, though, you can't entirely blame Disney for the lack of interest in the product. Even the most obviously commercial of this year's three titles, Chronological Donald 4, is still a niche interest title really. There just doesn't seem to be much interest in the classic Disney shorts anymore. That's true even on this forum. It's called UltimateDisney, but you'd be lucky to get more than a dozen members interested in a topic about the shorts.

I'd go so far as to say that both the audience at large and the corporation have lost sight that it was all started by a mouse.

[2099net]

No, what I'm saying is I don't expect Disney to continue releasing the Treasures sets for little or no profit, when the same resources and staff could work on obviously more profitable releases.

Although, Disney's not exactly doing that much on their "lesser" animated classic re-releases either.