Please help: confusion about PE line

[Ariel'sprince]

Well, I agree with Barbossa. That's just the way Disney does things. Also, the chart above is supposedly from Brazil...(I think). This could only be a suspected schedule from there and not from the US or any other part of the world.

Here it is from UD's hompage, a posting from September 12:

September 12, 2008 - Disney has announced a number of DVDs scheduled for release this December. The Little Mermaid II: Return to the Sea Special Edition will street on December 16th with two games, a Jodi Benson-narrated virtual storybook, a new deleted song, and the new Underwater Mer-Venture Challenge game. On the same day, it will be available in The Little Mermaid Trilogy ($50.00 SRP) box set with its 1989 predecessor's Platinum Edition and the recently-debuted Ariel's Beginning plus 3 exclusive lithographs. All three movies will dramatically return to the Vault on January 30, 2009. Cover art has been posted here. Also arriving on December 16th in the same vein is another 3-Movie Collection holding the 1953 classic Peter Pan's Platinum Edition, the Pixie-Powered Edition of 2002 sequel Return to Never Land, and upcoming DTV Tinker Bell. Likewise, Peter and Return will go out of print in January.

Well,if you say so,thought I whould actually be happy if it is 2010.
And I think that the Vault makes films special.
And yeah,The Little Mermaid will be released on Blu-Ray on October 2014.

[singerguy04]

I may be true that the PE edition as set up by sales numbers but I'm willing to bet a lot on the notion that the films are also selected by popular demand. I'm pretty sure this is why Pinnochio was selected.

I think the bottom line that we all should probably face is that the PE line's original idea has changed into something new. The whole top 10 best sellers thing has failed and now it's a popularity contest between the films. If a character provokes interest or something special concerning the original film is going on, then it'll be released as a PE.

also 2012 will be Aladdin's 20th Anniversary, isn't that convenient.

[Tyler342814]

I have a question. Do you guys know if the sequels of these movies will ever come out on Platinum edition.

I really want cinderella II, and III on platinum edition.

[DisneyFreak5282]

So DisneyFreak, you think Disney should not vault their DVDs, and instead keep them out forever?

No. What I meant was if Disney were to release the DVDs, and keep them in print until they had a general idea of when they were going to re-release it, it might be easier for fans AND consumers. Plus, Disney wouldn't have to worry about bootleggers as much as they do.

For example, I'm sure when Snow White went out of print in January 2002, Disney couldn't say "Okay, we're going to put this out of print on January 31, 2002, but don't worry! We will be re-releasing it on October 6, 2009!" Had Disney kept Snow White in print until about 2003 or early 2004, it might have sold better because that's when DVDs REALLY started to catch on. I'm not saying Snow White didn't sell well, but Disney could have made even more money if they kept it in print longer.

This would also be easier for fans and because they would have more time to get it, because not everybody's made of money and can rush out and get it right away. This also works on the other end, because it's not fair to those who couldn't get the DVD while it was in print, and like I said before, not everyone's made of money, and they can't shell out $50 - $75 on eBay for a legit copy. This brings up the issue of bootleggers. Disney wouldn't have to worry so much about them if they had kept the DVD in print a little while longer. More people would have time to get their hands on it, and not as many bootleggers would be profiting from the people who are oblivious and can't spot a bootlegger if it was spelled out in front of them.

The same goes for Song of the South. I'm sorry to be beating a dead horse, but if Disney wants to stop the bootleggers they should just release the movie already. Those who are offended by it don't have to buy it. Last time I checked, people DO have a choice of which DVDs they buy and which movies they watch.

[tlc38tlc38]

I have a question. Do you guys know if the sequels of these movies will ever come out on Platinum edition.

I really want cinderella II, and III on platinum edition.

Who knows with Disney what they will do....but, I really, really, really, really don't see them releasing those titles under the PE line. Their not considered "classics".

However, you may get a special edition release in the future.

[Disney Duster]

I see Disney Freak. Well, if your only problem is that they need to be out longer, I agree, all those things you talked about were really good reasons.

Tyler, Disney's Platinum line is only for Disney Animated Classics, there's an offcial list, and in concience, that's the only way it should be. Disney Animated Classics are only animated movies made by the Disney theatrical animation studios for theaters.

Cinderella is too good to be joined by it's inferior sequels, even if Cinderella III was really, really good, and the best and most true classic of the direct to videos. Bringing the lesser sequels to the line Cinderella's in would be like bringing Cinderella down levels.

[Jan<3]

Cinderella II and Cinderalla III will never be released as a Platinum Edition. Platinums are reserved for DACs only. The sequels of Platinums usually get Special Edition releases.

I have to say, I would rather have Fantasia be October 2009 release than Snow White. Probably because I already have Snow White... but I don't want to wait until March 2010 for it.

However, I am very excited about Pinocchio next March.

[Ariel'sprince]

I would rather have Fantasia be October 2009 release than Snow White. Probably because I already have Snow White... but I don't want to wait until March 2010 for it.

And Fantasia PE will be released a few months after that.
Snow White is more marketable since it's a Princess movie so they"ll release it in October 2009.
Look at Sleeping Beauty for exmaple-They merchandise of the PE and the whole Jeweled Princess products that promotes the Platinum Edition (Thought the Sleeping Beauty PE marketing is very weak,espically comparing it to the Cinderella PE,Little Mermaid PE and Enchanted Tales,I think that even the small Enchanted marketing had more merchandise then Sleeping Beauty,for example-Mattle only made 2 Aurora dolls and Disney aren't even making a DS game,it could be because Aurora also had her marketing for Enchanted Tales and next year both Snow White and Tiana will have their marketing and after that both Belle and Rapunzel will have their marketing but still,very weak marketing).

[PeterPanfan]

Yes, because all marketing relies on Mattel only dolls and Nintendo DS games.

[Ariel'sprince]

It's a few exmaples for the marketing if you want more then there aren't a lot of toys for the PE,they don't have Sleeping Beauty party supplies on many websites,and more.

[DisneyFreak5282]

I see Disney Freak. Well, if your only problem is that they need to be out longer, I agree, all those things you talked about were really good reasons.

Yeah. That, and the fact that they re-release under the Platinum Line. I understand that they are going to re-release the films, but I feel that once a film is released as a Platinum, it's done being a Platinum. PEs should be a one-time thing, and movies should only be released once under that line. The films that they want to re-release as PEs should just be deemed "2 Disc Set" (like the 2003 releases of SB and A Bug's Life) or "Special Edition" or "Masterpiece Edition". Films should be released ONCE as PEs, in order to make room for other films in that line.

[singerguy04]

I completely agree with the above statement. BVHE should really try creating a brand new line that is on par with the PE's but more open to all of the DAC's. An example being the Disney Masterpiece collection of the 90's or the Black Diamond collection.

[SpringHeelJack]

I completely agree with the above statement. BVHE should really try creating a brand new line that is on par with the PE's but more open to all of the DAC's. An example being the Disney Masterpiece collection of the 90's or the Black Diamond collection.

True, but that's not a good comparison, because back then didn't need to do jack-squat for special features. They just threw the movie on a cassette, occasionally remastered the picture / sound, and people were thrilled. I'd love for every movie to get an excellent treatment, but let's face it, more people are going to buy a snazzy two-disc "Cinderella" than they will a two-disc "Melody Time" that had the same time, money, and effort put into it. It's just good fiscal sense.

[Disney Duster]

Oh, then I'm not down with that!

The Platinum line is special. If all the DAC's end up as Platinums...they won't be Platinum!

Can you imagine The Sword in the Stone, Dinasaur, or Chicken Little as Platinums. Yup, those last to have become offcial DAC's. People may like those films, but popular, great classics they are not. Well, maybe The Sword in the Stone is debatable, but I don't think Disney themselves thought the movie was really great.

I want my favorite films released again and again as the special, deserving Platinums they are! A film doesn't lose it's specialness, it's Platinumness! Once a Platinum, always a Platinum! Well, we'll see with Aladdin, but maybe they thought Aladdin was "a mistake". It's not though, and should still be one.

[tlc38tlc38]

It really amazes me that THE MANY ADVENTURES OF WINNE THE POOH isn't in the Platinum Edition line seeing as how popular and well known the characters are.

I would love to see WINNIE join the line, along with DUMBO!!

[disneyboy20022]

Okay I consider Fantasia 2000 it a sequel...however this movie is being release under the Platinum Line....though I really don't see them re-releasing any other sequels to the Platinum Edition Line other than Fantasia 2000....besides we get a possible decent release of Destino...

but I wouldn't expect to see the Cinderella Sequels being re-released any time soon as they went back in the vault Jan 2008....

[tlc38tlc38]

Okay I consider Fantasia 2000 it a sequel...however this movie is being release under the Platinum Line....though I really don't see them re-releasing any other sequels to the Platinum Edition Line other than Fantasia 2000....besides we get a possible decent release of Destino...

but I wouldn't expect to see the Cinderella Sequels being re-released any time soon as they went back in the vault Jan 2008....

FANTASIA 2000 isn't being released under the PE line. It's just being released on Blu-ray & DVD the same time as FANTASIA, which IS under the PE line.

[Widdi]

Okay I consider Fantasia 2000 it a sequel...however this movie is being release under the Platinum Line....though I really don't see them re-releasing any other sequels to the Platinum Edition Line other than Fantasia 2000....besides we get a possible decent release of Destino...

but I wouldn't expect to see the Cinderella Sequels being re-released any time soon as they went back in the vault Jan 2008....

FANTASIA 2000 isn't being released under the PE line. It's just being released on Blu-ray & DVD the same time as FANTASIA, which IS under the PE line.

Nope, Fantasia 2000: Platinum Edition is being released at the same time as Fantasia: Platinum Edition. Disney has officially announced this.

[tlc38tlc38]

FANTASIA 2000 isn't being released under the PE line. It's just being released on Blu-ray & DVD the same time as FANTASIA, which IS under the PE line.

Nope, Fantasia 2000: Platinum Edition is being released at the same time as Fantasia: Platinum Edition. Disney has officially announced this.

my bad...just reread the press release. i just kind of found it odd for disney to release 2 PE dvd/blu-ray on the same day.

[blackcauldron85]

....besides we get a possible decent release of Destino...

I don't have the press release in front of me, but it didn't say that Destino will be on one of the Fantasia movies' DVDs, right? I'm still hoping for a stand-alone release for Destino...