Artist Discussion Series: Madonna

[PeterPanfan]

Congrats, Madonna!

MM1, would you mind sending me that song, too please?

[MadonnasManOne]

Congrats, Madonna!

MM1, would you mind sending me that song, too please?

You have a PM.

Justin Timberlake inducted Madonna into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and he gave a really good, and funny, speech. Madonna's acceptance speech was great, and she was clearly the highlight of the event!

[MadonnasManOne]

Ladies and gentlemen...I'm happy to announce that Madonna's new song, "4 Minutes", will be sent to radio, on Monday, March 17th! Reports indicate that the single will be available to download, a week later, March 24th..



You can listen to a clip, at Amazon.com.

http://www.amazon.com/Minutes-Featuring ... 4&sr=102-1

[Lazario]

Well, since there's so much time left to wait for Madonna's new stuff to come out, we'll have to do something to fill up the meantime.

Here's some stuff on YouTube of Madonna being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame:


Part 1 (4:05)
Part 2 (8:20)
Part 3 (8:18)
Part 4 (9:57)


Suffice it to say, Madonna's legacy to music is so huge, she deserved the honor. But about the ceremony... The choice to use so many audio clips of her performing live was a bad decision. Her voice singing live is clearly not as impressive as the studio recordings of the songs.

And Justin Timberlake... Wow, great voice. But, he was a bad choice to induct her. Sorry. It's true. He was basically chosen because he's famous, attractive, successful, and he knew her. He's not that interesting a personality. Unless you keep in mind that that speech was given by a one time Mouseketeer. How many times did he bring up sex during that intro? If you didn't know how great she was, you would think that all she had to her appeal and music was sex. If you ask me, her success had a max of 20% to do with anything sexual in her music and image.

"They're" bad "jokes", Justin. Bad jokes.

[DisneyFreak5282]

I was searching online to find a copy of Madonna's album "American Life" (I have since found it in FYE used), but when I was searching Wherehouse.com, I saw they had a 'limited edition' of "American Life". The description didn't say much and the track list didn't look any different, and from what I saw, there was no 'Parental Advisory' logo on the cover. I know this was not just the clean version, because they had that listed too. Anyone know what's different in this LE? Bonus tracks? DVD? Special casing? Maybe MadonnasManOne can field this one? Haha.

[mlvc6969]

I was searching online to find a copy of Madonna's album "American Life" (I have since found it in FYE used), but when I was searching Wherehouse.com, I saw they had a 'limited edition' of "American Life". The description didn't say much and the track list didn't look any different, and from what I saw, there was no 'Parental Advisory' logo on the cover. I know this was not just the clean version, because they had that listed too. Anyone know what's different in this LE? Bonus tracks? DVD? Special casing? Maybe MadonnasManOne can field this one? Haha.

The Limited Edition isn't anything special and one of her worst limited editions. It comes in a CD sized box which includes a 2-sided 23" x 35" poster, Postage-sized Madonna stamp sheet and a enhanced CD, there is a parental label but it is only on the outer sticker which once the CD is opened it is gone. It contains all the same 11 tracks as the normal CD. This was such a waste of money, you would be better off buying the normal CD. I am a HUGE Madonna fan but this to me is her worst CD and I still to this day can't listen to it all the way through. My favs are Erotica and Bedtime Stories. The new Limited Edition of Hard Candy is pretty nice but not much better but you at least get bonus remixes on that CD. Here is a pic of the Limited Edition American Life CD

[MadonnasManOne]

Thanks for answering that question, mlvc6969. I meant to respond, yesterday, but, I completely got wrapped up in other things.

You are right about the contents of the Limited Edition. It doesn't contain anything extra, other than the different packaging, the fold out poster, and stamps.

I, myself, enjoy the album for what it is. Far from her best, but, I can listen to it all the way through, and do enjoy it.

[DisneyFreak5282]

Thanks for answering that question, mlvc6969. I meant to respond, yesterday, but, I completely got wrapped up in other things.

You are right about the contents of the Limited Edition. It doesn't contain anything extra, other than the different packaging, the fold out poster, and stamps.

I, myself, enjoy the album for what it is. Far from her best, but, I can listen to it all the way through, and do enjoy it.

Thanks! I really enjoy this album, which is weird, because not a lot of people like this one. Also, after listening to this album all the way through many times (which I can easily do and enjoy), I'm wondering, what was so horrible that made this album earn a "Parental Advisory" label? Sure, she says "f**k it" a few times on the first track but that's it. Would it be accurate to say that in the edited version of the album that the only thing that is changed is the fact that they take out "f**k it" from the title track?

[MadonnasManOne]

Also, after listening to this album all the way through many times (which I can easily do and enjoy), I'm wondering, what was so horrible that made this album earn a "Parental Advisory" label? Sure, she says "f**k it" a few times on the first track but that's it. Would it be accurate to say that in the edited version of the album that the only thing that is changed is the fact that they take out "f**k it" from the title track?

That "F" word is the reason it earned the "Parental Advisory" label, and is the only thing changed in the edited version.

Also, August 16th, Madonna turned 50! So, a late "Happy Birthday" to her. She sure is an inspiration! I'm 33 years old, and feel like an old man. She's 50 years old, and keeps on going like the Engergizer Bunny! Amazing woman!

Some articles talking about her 50th Birthday:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,404929,00.html

http://www.local12.com/entertainment/en ... dd95000072

http://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/uk_na ... _birthday/

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll ... /808180307

[DisneyFreak5282]

Also, August 16th, Madonna turned 50! So, a late "Happy Birthday" to her. She's 50 years old, and keeps on going like the Engergizer Bunny! Amazing woman!

Happy belated birthday, Madonna! You look about half your actual age!

[DaveWadding]

http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM ... Hv0qOYYsxA

Madonna's McCain comparison slammed
8 hours ago

Madonna's comparisons of Republican presidential hopeful John McCain with Adolf Hitler and Robert Mugabe are "outrageous, unacceptable and crudely divisive all at the same time", his campaign said.

The 50-year-old pop star, who is no stranger to controversy, juxtaposed images of the German dictator and Zimbabwe's president with Mr McCain as she kicked off her world tour at Cardiff's Millennium Stadium on Saturday night.

Towards the end of the song, images of John Lennon, Nobel prize winner Al Gore and Mahatma Gandhi were shown with Mr McCain's Democratic rival Barack Obama.

McCain campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds said: "The comparisons are outrageous, unacceptable and crudely divisive all at the same time.

"It clearly shows that when it comes to supporting Barack Obama, his fellow worldwide celebrities refuse to consider any smear or attack off limits."

The McCain campaign has previously portrayed Mr Obama as a celebrity, comparing him with Britney Spears and Paris Hilton in an attempt to highlight his lack of experience.

The latter hit back with her own video in which she described Mr McCain as a "wrinkly white-haired guy" from the "olden days".

During the Madonna concert, the images were flashed on screen during a video interlude on the opening night of her Sticky and Sweet world tour.

As the song Get Stupid played, around 40,000 fans first saw images of destruction and global warming, before photographs of the dictators and the 71-year-old Arizona senator were shown.

The video segment was also condemned by Mr Obama's campaign, but they did not miss the opportunity to attack their rival's attack adverts. "These comparisons are outrageous and offensive and have no place in the political process," Obama campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor said. "We hope that John McCain will offer a similar condemnation as his allies increasingly practice sleazy swift boat tactics."
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She sure knows how to stir shit, doesnt she?

[James]

Madonna's getting a lot of negative publicity atm, especially in Australia. Her CD has sold dismally (compared to her other albums, and COADF), and tour has done badly, with critical reception very negative towards it, as she does nothing new, and really ruins her classics.
Hmm, i agree, I'm pretty over Madonna.
-James

[MadonnasManOne]

Madonna's getting a lot of negative publicity atm, especially in Australia. Her CD has sold dismally (compared to her other albums, and COADF), and tour has done badly, with critical reception very negative towards it, as she does nothing new, and really ruins her classics.
Hmm, i agree, I'm pretty over Madonna.
-James

You are letting negative publicity towards Madonna decide what you think of her? Silly.

It's nothing new, and Madonna won't miss those who say they are "over" her. She'll keep on ticking. Who cares what the critics say? People who let critics decide what they like and don't like are pretty fickle, I say. Don't let the door hit your backside on the way out!

As for her comparisons of John McCain, and George W. Bush before, well, I'd say they are pretty spot on. Those who actually pay attention to what the images mean, rather than just letting media tell you, will understand.

Oh, and as for Barack Obama, I'll never understand why Madonna would link him with people who are actually worthy of praise. I don't understand what anyone sees in Barack Obama?! I'm sad to say, but, it looks like I may actually sit this election out. For the first time since I was of voting age, I honestly don't believe I'll vote. I won't for John McCain, and I don't want to vote for Barack Obama. I don't have any other choice, but to withhold my vote, which really sucks.

[James]

Haha no im not MM1. I can see that Madonna is getting tired, and her new album (from what I've heard) isn't new enough, innovative enough or fun enough for me to like.
And from watching bits of the tour, doesnt seem as good as her previous tour.
So yeah, not liking her too much, i just dont like her personally or professionally anymore.
-James

[DaveWadding]

As for her comparisons of John McCain, and George W. Bush before, well, I'd say they are pretty spot on. Those who actually pay attention to what the images mean, rather than just letting media tell you, will understand.

Because John McCain has scapegoated, visually identified and then tried to systematically eliminate an entire class of people...

[DisneyFreak5282]

Quick question - what's different about the Limited Edition of Madonna's album "GHV2" than the regular edition?

[DaveWadding]

Because, hey, you know you can't keep me out of a Madonna thread:

Amazon mp3 is selling her album Ray of Light for TWO DOLLARS today.

I've even done the honors of UD-izing the link.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... eimprovemz

[MadonnasManOne]

Because, hey, you know you can't keep me out of a Madonna thread:

Amazon mp3 is selling her album Ray of Light for TWO DOLLARS today.

I've even done the honors of UD-izing the link.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... eimprovemz

That's a great price, for a great album! For those who don't have it, they should certainly pick it up!

[blackcauldron85]

Pop star Madonna and Guy Ritchie are to divorce after nearly eight years of marriage, their PR representatives have said in a statement.

http://community.livejournal.com/ohnoth ... 28642.html

[Lazario]

You know, I believe I did a blog about this. There were rumors they were divorcing and celebrities talking like it was a definitive on Vh1, while the "official" word through the press was that they weren't breaking up and that the relationship was strong.

Really makes you think now, with all the strange songs on Hard Candy. Songs about long-distance relationships ("Miles Away") and relationships where the man was kind of cheating on her ("She's Not Me"). And of course, her musical sexcapades with Timberlake. In my opinion, she's either menopausing (and I can say that because I know women who make menopause references like that all the time) or going through a midlife crisis. Mix those with the fact that she's a huge celebrity / star...

I think she's losing her mind. Not because she's having a breakdown like Britney. But I think she's becoming deluded. For instance, all the kind journalists talking about how good and sexy she looks at 50. With all the makeup on, yeah she can made to look very pretty. And she has a very girlish voice. But she's not the same woman as she used to be. Not in any way.

It's kind of like a power trip. And she wants to prove she can still rock the pop music scene like she used to. But if it's any kind of victory at all, it's hollow. She's a mother (of 3, I think), has a series now of disastrous marriages and flings... She's completely irresponsible. Which might not mean much to people who just want to put on her CD and dance or whatever. But I think it's important to be critical of anyone in the public eye who is making a very negative reputation for themself. The whole "Sex" phase back in the 1990's was one thing. But this new "Candy" phase is really sad.

Now, Christina Aguilera could pull it off. She's got youth, she's making waves in an original way, and when she makes a social or political statement, she does it with full sensitivity and sincerity. Madonna's whole "Get Stupid" may have been done before the election results, but it's hugely offensive to me personally. Not to mention a pale imitation of her very effective shock music video for "American Life." Instead of being ahead of the curve and commenting on something dark in our culture - she's a product of what's dark in our culture. I think she's become corrupted. And is desperately trying to hide the aging process.

I don't consider her an inspiration anymore.

Though I also don't blame her for this divorce. I never really believed their marriage. The age difference alone was pretty obviously troubling. And it is pretty shady in a way of him to cash out so much from her. I mean, if he had claimed it was damage done to his career... okay. I'll buy that.