NEW "Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep" game !

[Prince Edward]

I do really hope that we get these Kingdom Hearts-games here in Europe as well! Europeans does not always get all the cool stuff that are offered to people/Disney-fans living in North-America or Japan...

[Disney Duster]

Snow,find a rolling pin,quick.

Well, thanks for the info. Let's see if they're shrunk, and why. I'm okay with The Castle of Dreams, makes it feel more important. I really want to see all the scenes from the movies is beautiful CGI, I'm glad we already know we'll see Aurora sleeping!

I hope they come to Europe for you, Prince Edward. Do you already have the first games?

[Prince Edward]

Snow,find a rolling pin,quick.

Well, thanks for the info. Let's see if they're shrunk, and why. I'm okay with The Castle of Dreams, makes it feel more important. I really want to see all the scenes from the movies is beautiful CGI, I'm glad we already know we'll see Aurora sleeping!\

I hope they come to Europe for you, Prince Edward. Do you already have the first games?

Thank you very much Disney Duster, that's nice of you!:) Yeah, I got Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts II for PS2 and KH: Chain of Memories for Gameboy Advance. Amazing games, especially those for PS2 (I guess it has something to do with the graphics of TV-games opposed to Gameboy Advance - hopefully the graphics of the new DS- and PSP-games will be great, and hopefully we do not have to wait to many years for "Kingdom Hearts III" to be released on PS3). To bad they have not released any of the "Final Mix"-versions of the PS2-games in Europe, but I believe that you do not have them in the USA either?

By the way, some things that are released here in Europe are not released outside Europe; The Sleeping Beauty DVD Giftpack for example. So I suppose that no matter where in the world we live, we are all a little bit "unlucky" sometimes. To bad that Disney-fans/people can't get the same offer all places.

[Disney Duster]

Yes, from what I know, we don't have any of the Final Mixes here, either, but lots of people are hoping and trying to get them over here, and there's always rumors.

Yes, I really want that Sleeping beauty set, I will definately try to order it online to get it.

I guess everyone is a little unlucky. But I kind of like the exclusivity and extra, rare things, as long as the die-hard fans can find ways to get it all! It's like hunting!

[Disney's Divinity]

They finally have some scans of all the new information:

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(They're big, so I kept them as links)

I'm kind of disappointed that they shrunk you so you could fight Lucifer. That's a bit strange.

[pap64]

Man, I really gotta get me a PSP one of these days...

[Ariel'sprince]

The DS game kinda reminds me of Chain Of Memories,I"m glad to see Beast's Castle there .

Snow,find a rolling pin,quick.

Well, thanks for the info. Let's see if they're shrunk, and why. I'm okay with The Castle of Dreams, makes it feel more important. I really want to see all the scenes from the movies is beautiful CGI, I'm glad we already know we'll see Aurora sleeping!

I found in the website that the Fairy Godmother srinked him so he can help Cinderella find parts for her dress,but why can't the Fairy Godmother make her a dress insted?.
I"ll see the cutscenes on YouTube.
Yeah but I also want to see her awake,how does she wake up? or Flora,Founa and Merriweather will already take care of that?.
Snow White and Aurora looks beautiful in those scans .
I thought that Lucifer will be a Heartless,kinda disappointing.

[Ariel'sprince]

I just heard that the Sleeping Beauty world is called Enchanted Kingdom.
Sounds weird.
I wonder what they"ll call Snow White's world.
Anyone knows which world is this?:
http://www.kh2.co.uk/image.php?view=img/SEPP3.jpg
I think it's Castle Of Dreams (Cinderella) but I"m not sure,didn't the King went in a hall like that after Cinderella and Prince Charming started dancing?.
And the castle from the scan with Jaq is definitely Enchanted Kingdom,I saw Sleeping Beauty yesterday and it is that castle.

[Disney Duster]

I'm kind of disappointed that they shrunk you so you could fight Lucifer. That's a bit strange.

But WHY? You said you actually thought it would be fun to help Cinderella get to the ball with the mice! Did you expect not to be shrunken? Cinderella's world in giant would be so cool! What if you had to jump up the dress as you make it and risk falling to your doom? But THANK YOU for the scans!

Yes that's the Castle of Dreams, Sprince. That's the part of the ballroom where the Prince stands for the girls to come up to him. There's the steps and the red curtain in the back. Trust me, I know!

[Ariel'sprince]

But THANK YOU for the scans!

Hey! that's from the website I got the information from! if he haven't found those picture before I did I whould have post them.
It's that room? but it's not supposed to bigger? it's seems small.
So how's Enchanted Kingdom?.
And in Agrabah they"ll finally let the characters into the palace?.

[Disney Duster]

Well, that's okay Sprince, it's just whoever brings it to our attention first should get thanked for doing so, but we know you always post what you can find that's good. Thanks for all the info you're giving that's not pictures! Glad to know about the Fairy Godmother!

Enchanted Kingdom's okay with me. It fits the film, like Castle of Dreams really fits Cinderella's theme of dreams coming true.

[Ariel'sprince]

Well, that's okay Sprince, it's just whoever brings it to our attention first should get thanked for doing so, but we know you always post what you can find that's good. Thanks for all the info you're giving that's not pictures! Glad to know about the Fairy Godmother!

Enchanted Kingdom's okay with me. It fits the film, like Castle of Dreams really fits Cinderella's theme of dreams coming true.

Oh,you"re wellcome but why can't she make a dress for Cinderella?.
Well,Castle Of Dreams but I thought that the Sleeping Beauty world will be something like Sleeping Beauty or Magical Castle,not Enchanted Kingdom (Kinda reminds me of Enchanted).
Keep in mind that it may not be the final names-The Land Of Dragons original name was supposed to be Ancient China and Beast's Castle original name was supposed to be Fable Countryside.
I wonder if Alice's homeworld and Belle's village will be in the game too.

[Disney's Divinity]

I think they give original names over actual locations to avoid any misunderstanding that these are different worlds. I mean, otherwise people would wonder why Greece, Africa, and London aren't on the same world.

Also, Beast's Castle and The Land of Dragons were never named anything else. "Fabled Countryside" and "Ancient China" were false info. that came out (along with rumors of The Black Cauldron and The Great Mouse Detective worlds; they were called Prydain and Victorian London, respectively), though I do like FC a bit better than Beast's Castle.

I'm kind of disappointed that they shrunk you so you could fight Lucifer. That's a bit strange.

But WHY? You said you actually thought it would be fun to help Cinderella get to the ball with the mice! Did you expect not to be shrunken? Cinderella's world in ginat would be so cool! What if you had to jump up the dress as you make it and risk falling to your doom? But THANK YOU for the scans!

What I meant was that I thought it would be fun to help her get to the ball in her carriage. As in the Heartless appear on the road around the carriage and you have to keep them from hurting her. That would be a little strange in-game, I suppose, but it's something I've always imagined. And I always assumed that if they did use Cinderella, the animals would have very small, non-speaking parts (similar to the apes in Tarzan ).

Of course, that idea wouldn't really work at this point, as I think they've said there's a new enemy in this game that was before the Heartless or the Nobodies. From what KHUltimania says, they seem to be "unbirth." Fan translations aren't always perfect though.

Also, I am actually a General Moderator at that site, so I kind of knew all the information before you posted it. I would've tried posting it myself, but I was a bit lazy (and KH threads never seem to be that popular around here). I only posted the pictures because they're more exciting than anything else.

[Disney Duster]

Oh well...when you said it I swear you meant it would be cute, fun or something light-hearted. Well, that would have been cool. I'm excited for giant Cinderella world. Giant Lucifer just makes sense as a really big, dangerous, evil threat. I'm still hoping the evil stepsisters ruin the dress (and all your hard work!) and you get to find the things you need for the transformations, and help make those. There probably will be some carriage riding.

[pap64]

One thing that is confusing me about the PSP game...

Its supposed to be a prequel to Kingdom Hearts 1, right? If so, why is Roxas a playable character?

SPOILERS FOR KINGDOM HEARTS 2!!!!






If I am not mistaken, Roxas is Sora's Nobody. He was born when Sora gave his heart in order to bring Kairi back to life in Hollow Bastion. This event happened near the end of the first game.

If Birth by Sleep is a prequel to the first game why does Roxas exist? Technically, Sora doesn't even encounter the keyblade!





SPOILERS FOR KINGDOM HEARTS 2!!!!

Unless, Birth by Sleep is a prequel to Kingdom Hearts 2, taking place after the end of Chain of Memories and before Kingdom Hearts 2, before Sora woke up.

[Ariel'sprince]

Actually,Disney Duster,I think that you need to look for items for the tranformation of the dress in the game and that's why the Fairy Godmother shrinked him.
About Lucifer-I think it makes sense to make him that big,how can you fight him in normal size? he"ll jump on Ven and scratch his head? a fight with the stepsisters can be like the fight with Lock,Shock and Barrel.
Disney's Divinity-They never named those world that way? but I remember people after actual screenshots came,not when they thought there will be Black Cauldron and Great Mouse Detective worlds.
Also I like when it's not actual locations and Disney always said that every Disney film is in another world (Like in the Disney Princess line) but I more like it when they give actual name like Atlantica and Halloween Town insted of Enchanted Tower or Magical Kingdom.

[Ariel'sprince]

pap64-He's not Roxas,his name is Ven and he's a whole different character,he looks a lot like Roxas but it's not him.
Birth By Sleep is a prequel to the first game (10 years before the original game (And Aurora,Cinderella and Snow White still looks same after 10 years)) and 358/2 Days tells Roxas's story,it's a tie in between Chain Of Memories and Kingdom Hearts II.

[pap64]

pap64-He's not Roxas,his name is Ven and he's a whole different character,he looks a lot like Roxas but it's not him.
Birth By Sleep is a prequel to the first game (10 years before the original game (And Aurora,Cinderella and Snow White still looks same after 10 years)) and 358/2 Days tells Roxas's story,it's a tie in between Chain Of Memories and Kingdom Hearts II.

That means that in the Disney universe the characters are timeless!

[Disney's Divinity]

Yeah, Ariel'sprince is right. The guy in Birth by Sleep may look very similar to Roxas, but his name's Ven. Many people have guessed that Ven, Terra and Aqua have a relation to Sora, Riku and Kairi, and I would guess that they do. Even their names are similar (Ven = Wind, Terra = Earth, Aqua = Water [those are probably obvious to you]; Sora = Sky, Riku = Land, Kairi = Sea or the Separation between Land and Sky).

As for the 10 year gap, I suppose that when the princesses appear in Hollow Bastion, they're much older than they appear hear. Cinderella and Aurora in particular look more mature in the original game. So the events of the movies probably happen in BbS and Kingdom Hearts is them 10 years later (as Queens). And they really wouldn't change that much in 10 years; Cinderella and Aurora had grown as much as they were going to and you don't get excessive wrinkles in your 20s. Snow White's the only one who's questionable, but maybe she never gets any taller/bigger.

This might be why Beast's Castle, Agrabah and Wonderland haven't been shown in BbS, as Jasmine, Alice and Belle would all be children 10 years earlier.

Disney's Divinity-They never named those world that way? but I remember people after actual screenshots came,not when they thought there will be Black Cauldron and Great Mouse Detective worlds.

People just started to use that to talk about them. It was sort of how, before info on KH2 came out, everyone had special labels for all the characters seen in images and secret endings. TEU = The Enigmatic Unknown (which turned out to be Roxas), BHG = Blonde-Hair Girl (which turned out to be Namine), etc.

[Jack Skellington]

I do really hope that we get these Kingdom Hearts-games here in Europe as well! Europeans does not always get all the cool stuff that are offered to people/Disney-fans living in North-America or Japan...

Prince Ed, the PSP is region free, if you don't find it on your local game store, online is your best bet !

I'm mostly excited about Snow White's world not because of the midgets or the pathetic title character either, I just want to see the Evil Queen and visit my dream house (her castle !), so I hope I see some scans of her and her spooky residence.