Wall-E - Pixar's next film (after Ratatouille)

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When we saw WALL-E there were trailers for:

Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa - eh. Looks funny enough based on the trailer, but I never bothered seeing the first one.
The Tale of Despereaux - really really want to see this, it looks really good!
Journey to the Center of the Earth - zzzz
Bolt - feelings are mixed, there's more that I dislike about it than more that I like. I want the radioactive bunny and tetchy cat again...

I was hoping to see the Igor trailer again (saw it with Prince Caspian in theatres), but unfortunately they chose not to show it.
Ours had those but also a Beverly Hills Chihuahua trailer. I chose to get my snacks during BHC trailer since I probably would have gotten sick otherwise... Why does Disney even make that crap? Madagascar 2 looked stupid too. The first movie was OK but the rule with animated sequels I think applies here... I don't want to look at animals' butts for 30 seconds. I mean seriously!
If there were any more I missed them since I left when I saw Beverly Hills Chihuahua's start and got back in the middle of BOLT's.

So I take it previews aren't mandated with the film? I woulda figured all theaters would show the same previews, and that the studio would dictate which ones... but maybe not?
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drfsupercenter wrote:I don't want to look at animals' butts for 30 seconds. I mean seriously!
Really? I had the 'pleasure' to see them in IMAX and then again on a normal screen all in the same day. Perhaps you should try it. :roll: :wink:


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Wall-E was in the IMAX?

Or are you talking about a different movie? If it was I hate myself for not seeing it in the IMAX!
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drfsupercenter wrote:Wall-E was in the IMAX?

Or are you talking about a different movie? If it was I hate myself for not seeing it in the IMAX!
No, the Madagascar trailer was in IMAX with Kung Fu Panda then I saw the bouncy animal butts on normal screen with Get Smart.

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Yeah, I saw Get Smart too... awesome movie...

Kung Fu Panda looked like just a stupid movie... I hate DreamWorks these days because they ripped off Pixar on three occasions and come up with lame original movies (though Shrek was OK... Only the first, not either of the sequels)

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OK, I just saw this in theaters last night and was wondering a few things.

One: The movie itself is 2.35:1, right? I saw the preview for BOLT and saw that it had... nonstandard sized pillarboxes. It was wider than 1.85 but narrower than 2.35. So what aspect ratio are they planning to release BOLT in? 2.20:1 or something?

Two: Is there a list of all the Pixar references that were in the film? The only ones I noticed were the trash cubes (referencing Monsters, Inc.) and a Pizza Planet truck that was one of the broken down vehicles on Earth.

Three: No Wilhelm scream? So that means the rumor is true that Ben Burtt won't keep using it?

Four: What was that movie that Wall-E kept watching? (The one on the VHS that EVA almost destroys) I thought it was Mary Poppins at first but I'm pretty sure it isn't. And is the music that plays in the background also from whatever movie that is?

And what did you guys think of it? I thought the animation looked amazing, but the story was a bit... odd, to say the least.

And by the way - I noticed that the Presto short was actually pillarboxed to preserve the 1.33:1 (at least close to it) aspect ratio - so if it's ever released in widescreen, I'll know it isn't OAR!!
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Four: What was that movie that Wall-E kept watching? (The one on the VHS that EVA almost destroys) I thought it was Mary Poppins at first but I'm pretty sure it isn't. And is the music that plays in the background also from whatever movie that is?

And what did you guys think of it? I thought the animation looked amazing, but the story was a bit... odd, to say the least.
The movie was 'Hello Dolly.'

I loved Wall*E and though that it was an amazing film. Will win for best animated picture for sure!
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drfsupercenter wrote:Is there a list of all the Pixar references that were in the film? The only ones I noticed were the trash cubes (referencing Monsters, Inc.) and a Pizza Planet truck that was one of the broken down vehicles on Earth.
Here's a pretty detailed list of references in the film, and I'm sure more will be found when the film hits DVD/BD:

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/06/27/wall-e-easter-eggs/
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Oh, very interesting!

How did they get those pictures? Is there some bootleg I should try to find? :lol:

Also, is there a list of "product placement"?

The ones I noticed were the Rubik's Cube and the iPod, among others.
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Saw the movie two days ago. I really like it. Not much dialogue yet it was able to tell a story.

Oh and still can't get out the fact that Wall E reminds me of R.O.B.
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I felt the same way!

Being a big Nintendo fan I felt like I'd seen Wall-E (the character) before... LOL

I personally didn't like it as much as Toy Story and The Incredibles but it's definitely up in the top... 3?
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drfsupercenter wrote: Three: No Wilhelm scream? So that means the rumor is true that Ben Burtt won't keep using it?
I think Burtt's tradition of using the Wilhelm Scream only applies to his Lucasfilm projects. I'm sure Burtt never said that every project of his would contain it; Munich didn't have it either.

Although, I certainly think this movie could've used it and would've been a nice touch and a cool tribute to all his works in the past. Unfortunately, Wall-E made it pretty clear about what Pixar's thinks of their easter eggs, which was just one problem I had with the movie. It felt as if they just didn't care about their traditions and just threw their easter eggs in the most obvious places just so die-hard fans wouldn't get upset about Pixar not keeping up their traditions. I thought it was pure laziness on Pixar's part.
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Hm, I guess you're right... I'm a big fan of The Incredibles and still haven't found any Easter Eggs just by looking. I should go to a site one of these days that makes it more evident.

The Bug's Life references in Toy Story 2 are pretty easy to find if you're like me and saw TS2 50 times or more... LOL

And if they could put a Wilhelm scream in Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin, why not Wall-E? :P
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TM2-Megatron wrote:Why is something "real" simply because a human feels it...or are you simply referring to all intelligent organic life in general?
Yup. I dunno, maybe because animals and humans are the ones who actually are real and have felt real love, and robots are artificial through and through? So that means their love is artificial, too. A fact.
TM2-Megatron wrote:Take a naturally-occuring and intelligent silicon-based lifeform, as an example. From our point of view, it would be composed of entirely inorganic material, yet still technically be a form of life. Or, on the flip side, an artificially-engineered (yet totally organic) intelligent being... with DNA written from scratch instead of evolved over millenia. What's your view on the feelings of that individual?
I didn't understand this. Do you mean...like...a robot that was not made by man? Or a robot made my man that we know has started doing things we didn't make it possible to do? Well, that's life, a soul my friend, capable of feeling love. Oh wait a minute. I read you don't believe in souls. Well. We aren't going to get anywhere since I'm right that we have souls and you disagree.

But one thing's for sure. Love that humans feel is different and more special than the simulated love between simulated things. I won't let Pixar or anyone tell me any different.

As for AI...yea, I would be the first group lobbying against that being made in the first place. The movie itself should tell people it's not a good idea. But if AI was made, yes, I would let them live out there fake lives as fake humans as they fake want to. And remember, if a robot does something it wasn't built to do, something that has to do with feeling and thinking...that's magic or divinity or energy or some kinda soul. So yea I would let that go.

SO if in Wall-E the robots magically gained real soulful feelings, Ok. But it sure looks like they tried to write off unmagical unfeeling man-made robot love as the same love people feel.
PeterPanfan wrote:I don't know why some people are saying that Wall-E didn't "come back." He remembered who Eve was, and held her hand.
Ok, you didn't read that right (or carefully...?). I said Wall-E did come back. But it didn't make sense that he came back when Eve touched him, because he had never touched her before. If you forget someone and that you love that someone, you have to remember you love them before you like that they touch you, if you never touched them. Because you can't remember that you touched them...because you never did.

Unless, as I said, there's this whole magical impossible thing going on.

But I never got the impression WaLL-E was fantasy.
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PeterPanfan wrote:I don't know why some people are saying that Wall-E didn't "come back." He remembered who Eve was, and held her hand.
Ok, you didn't read that right (or carefully...?). I said Wall-E did come back. But it didn't make sense that he came back when Eve touched him, because he had never touched her before.
Wall-e didn't remember EVE because they touched hands, he remembered because there was the spark between them. She hummed him the song from Hello, Dolly! which reminded me of the time my cousin went into a coma and only when we played her our favorite songs did a few memories start coming back to her. So EVE was trying to get Wall-e to recall the songs he had showed her.
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drfsupercenter wrote:Kung Fu Panda looked like just a stupid movie... I hate DreamWorks these days because they ripped off Pixar on three occasions and come up with lame original movies (though Shrek was OK... Only the first, not either of the sequels)
In fear of creating the most derailed thread in the existence of the interwebs (and in a DISNEY forum no less) I will say this; Kung Fu Panda is a great movie and perhaps the best Dreamworks movie to date.

A shocker don't you think? But yes. And I ain't talking out of blind fanboyism. I haven't been impressed with Dreamworks' offerings since Shrek 2. Sharktale was way too shallow and too proud of its A-list cast, Madagascar was an OK movie with stupid references, Over the Hedge was good but I felt it belonged as a TV movie and not as a theatrical one, Flushed Away was a pain to watch, especially since it was made by Aardman. Shrek the third was perhaps the worst movie of 2007 and the worst Dreamworks has ever done and Bee Movie was OK, but like a reviewer said it feels like a TV movie.

But Kung Fu Panda impresses on many levels. The character design is a tad uninspired, I give you that, but everything else is flawless. The action sequences are very captivating and well choreographed and the characters are likable. But what surprised me the most is the heart the film has. Yes, a Dreamworks CG movie has heart for once. In my eyes at least its very sincere and heartfelt. There were two scenes where I nearly cried due to how powerful and touching they were. And once again, I am talking about a DREAMWORKS MOVIE!.

Plus, the story is cliche (unlikely character becomes a legendary savior thanks to the will of his heart), but is well developed and presented. There's actual character development involved. In fear of sounding like a broken record, this sort of thing has never been seen on a Dreamworks movie.

Finally, the movie is pretty much timeless. There are very few pop culture references, and most importantly...NO FART OR POOP JOKES! There are still some butt and belly references (one I felt was not necessary) but on the whole they created a movie that people will appreciate 10 or even 20 years in the future (that is if Wall.E is to be believed, we will still be slim and Earth will still be around :P).

This doesn't mean its flawless, though. Jack Black does a good job with Po, but at times he sounds too much like Jack. The other voice talent is great, but the cast behind the Furious Five is wasted as the characters don't get the treatment they deserve. And there are still some Dreamworks elements they couldn't help but sneak in, like a preachy message near the end.

But on the whole, considering their track record Dreamworks has created a rock solid and just plain fun movie. To EVERYONE on this forum; don't let your Dreamworks hate or Pixar/Disney devotion ruin what is one of the most fun CG movies you'll see in years.

Sorry for derailing the thread, but it needed to be said.

As for the KFP vs. Wall.E comparisons some people are doing, they are too different and both have their charms and quirks.

KFP is the summer's pop-corn flick. Even if it actually focuses on its story more than some of its predecessors its still a movie aimed to entertain. Wall.E on the other hand aims to both entertain and enthrall with a haunting setting and a deep storyline.

If you just want mindless fun, KFP is your best bet. If you want to get your senses estimulated, Wall.E is highly recommended.

There, I brought the thread back on track :D .
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magicalwands wrote:Wall-e didn't remember EVE because they touched hands, he remembered because there was the spark between them. She hummed him the song from Hello, Dolly! which reminded me of the time my cousin went into a coma and only when we played her our favorite songs did a few memories start coming back to her. So EVE was trying to get Wall-e to recall the songs he had showed her.
From what I remember she sang the song but he didn't come back. Then they touched hands and he came back. That's not him remembering the songs, that's...I don't know what that is..."magic".
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Pretty sure holding hands didn't work... there was an electrical spark.
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magicalwands wrote:Wall-e didn't remember EVE because they touched hands, he remembered because there was the spark between them. She hummed him the song from Hello, Dolly! which reminded me of the time my cousin went into a coma and only when we played her our favorite songs did a few memories start coming back to her. So EVE was trying to get Wall-e to recall the songs he had showed her.
From what I remember she sang the song but he didn't come back. Then they touched hands and he came back. That's not him remembering the songs, that's...I don't know what that is..."magic".
EVE was disappointed he forgot everything. Then she held his hand just to see if she could feel him rather than never, like you would with someone who just passed away, she was imagining how it could have been if she held his hand when he did remember. She then proceeded to be close to him one last time, face to face literally, and she sort of kissed him with the spark. Then that spark brought back all of Wall-e's memories, EVE thinks he still is cleared of his brain but as she pulls back her hand it's stuck; Wall-e is holding on.

Off-topic: I found the writing for that scene to be so genius on Stanton's part!
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Well in that case magicalwands and Okie Tigger, there is no problem because the spark brought back his memories.
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Here's how I see that scene...

You know how when you connect two computers you can transfer files, programs and any data the computers may have? Well, when EVE " kissed" Wall.E and brought him back that spark may have activated a piece of data which triggered all of Wall.E's memories, emotions and personalities.

EVE's memories of Wall.E (which she had saved as proven by the scene in which she views the security camera's data) must have somehow transferred to Wall.Eand thus recovered his old data.

Might seem far fetched, but its the only way to make the scene " believable" for those that don't want to put their brains aside for a minute.

One other thing I just realized about Wall.E...

Remember the movie " Short Circuit"? The reason Johnny 5 became human or " alive" was because he got struck by lightning and his circuits got fried. In other words, he became human when he started malfunctioning.

So maybe the reason Wall.E was so human and alive was because he started malfunctioning sometime during the course of 700 years. He could have started as just another working robot, but slowly evolved into the lovable robot we know today. It would explain why Wall.E became a " soul less robot when EVE repaired him.

Its like both movies are saying that only reason these robots became "human" was because they were malfunctioning. Humans are imperfect creatures, so...Take that as you will.
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