PlayStation 3, I Got Mine!!!!!!!!!

[Vee]

Personally I would rather die than buy a PS3. RIIIIIIIDGE RACEERRRRR!

I'll be gunning for the Wii myself. Nintendo know what they're doing.

Honestly, Sony seems to be killing itself with this. The PS3 is essentially a blu-ray/DVD player that also happens to play video games. Its in-box title is a movie, for crying out loud. There are only a handful of launch games, and they're all looking pretty dire, and yet Sony are convinced that people will buy the PS3 "even if there are no games for it". Yeah, way to respect your consumers, Sony. Losers.

Then there's the whole money thing. I can not afford the kind of horrendous prices Sony are asking for the PS3 console itself, and I certainly could never afford to buy any of the similarly horrendously-priced games. Oh, wait. Except that you don't actually buy the game. You buy the license to play the game, and the software itself actually isn't your property at all. This means that if you buy the game and hate it, you can't sell at your local GameStation or whatever. That'd be illegal, because the game is property of Sony and it's not yours to sell. This also means that all profits go to Sony and nobody else - Sony makes no money from second-hand purchases of games, only the game store gets the profit from a second-hand sale. Ohhh, we can't have that.

The PS3 has backwards compatibility but this won't actually apply to a huge number of games. Around 800 older games won't actually work on a PS3 at all. Waheeeyyy.

The PS3, like the Wii, has suddenly come up with a motion-sensor controller. However, this is a horribly tacked-on feature and it really doesn't work well at all from what I've heard from the gaming community.

I've also heard tell that Sony is planning to stop people from selling PS3s on eBay for profit. Which is what loads of people were doing. A friend of mine in the US was speaking to people in a queue to get PS3s. Out of seven people, five of them were buying the PS3 to sell it on eBay at a profit and three of these were going to use the money to buy a Wii. I find this intensely amusing.

So yeah. I'll be buying a Wii. Since the Wii works a bit differently in the way it handles games, there won't be any such problems with backwards compatibility. The Wii is a gaming console and nothing more. It's exactly what it says it is. The Wii has a ton of launch titles, the worst of which still exceed greatly the best of the PS3's launch titles. And, best of all, I can actually afford to buy it. Wheee.

[TM2-Megatron]

Now we know why Sony always insisted 1080p was "true HD", because they basically ignored most of the other common resolutions. Considering how few 1080p TVs there are, and how much they cost, it looks like a lot of people with HD TVs will end up with a HD console not capable of showing HD on their system.

As much as I usually dislike Sony and its policies, I will agree with them on this... 1080p is the only real HD resolution, IMO. And the HD standard will eventaully be stripped of 720p and 1080i, making almost 100% of every HDTV sold today non-HD. That's why I'm holding out buying one. Even now, I'd estimate 80%-85% of my television viewing is exclusively from DVDs, both movie and TV shows. While it may be a long time before anyone has the bandwith to broadcast signals in 1080p, the HD optical formats already support it. So it only makes sense for me to wait out more affordable, true 1080p televisions since I'll mostly be watching stuff from Blu-Rays, and thus will be able to take advantage of 1080p.

[PixarFan2006]

Personally I'd rather have a Wii than a Playstation 3 (hey that rhymed! )

[2099net]

Now we know why Sony always insisted 1080p was "true HD", because they basically ignored most of the other common resolutions. Considering how few 1080p TVs there are, and how much they cost, it looks like a lot of people with HD TVs will end up with a HD console not capable of showing HD on their system.

As much as I usually dislike Sony and its policies, I will agree with them on this... 1080p is the only real HD resolution, IMO. And the HD standard will eventaully be stripped of 720p and 1080i, making almost 100% of every HDTV sold today non-HD. [snip]

That may be the case, but the fact that the PS3 does no scaling what-so-ever is, perhaps, the most stupidist decision ever in the history of the Playstation brand, and indicates with one simple example all the contempt that they have for their customers.

[Loomis]

I've kind of resolved to get me a PS3, but the Australian wait is long - March 2007.

Many people here are frequenting eBay. And I can't blame them. Australians are also paying a significantly higher price for the console.

Guess I'll have to look around to see who is offering the best deal.

I'll be gunning for the Wii myself. Nintendo know what they're doing.

I'm off to preorder one of those now, actually. While I normally wouldn't buy more than one console in these situations - I did just buy a Nintendo DS though! - I like the innovations of the Wii enough to invest, the preorder deal at the moment is good and the Wii is significantly cheaper (AU $399.95 v $900+). If I decide against the PS3 at a later date, so be it.

However, a next gen console plus Blu Ray is hard to pass up. As it is unlikely that I will be buying a stand-alone Blu-Ray player any time soon, I think PS3 is the only way to go for me. While there are a few issues with some older games, the fact that the 8000+ PS1 and PS2 titles are more than likely going to work with the PS3 is a huge appeal as well. I've been wanting Kingdom Hearts for years!

[disneyboy20022]

Loomis, I hate to dissapoint you but KH3 if there is one may not be on the PS3 afterall... Accroding to the Article below it may be on the Wii. Which is the main reason I bought my PS3 in hopes there would be Kingdom Hearts game for it down the line. Here just read the following Also below is a link to this info posted on a Kingdom Hearts info website.

I plan on buying a Nintendo Wii sometime in March as a Birthday Gift to me. If I would have known this info before pre-ording the PS3 I would have pre-ordered the Nintendo Wii instead and then waited to buy the PS3 until next year in March. I am just glad I sold enough Beanie Babies to buy a Playstation 3 and after all the beanies I sold I am still stuck with over 500 beanies and Ty products


http://forums.khinsider.com/showthread.php?p=1807536

Buena Vista Games has set up a new studio to develop games exclusively for the Nintendo Wii and NDS. These new headquarters are based in Salt Lake City, Utah, and has been given the name Fall Line Studios. Their mission? To take part in "small-team, creative projects that leverage the Disney brand in new and innovative ways."

"BVG has an excellent management team, a can-do corporate culture and a treasure trove of great intellectual properties that make it exciting for us to start something new," said their new President, Scott Novis.

What does this do for Kingdom Hearts 3? Well, with Square-Enix Vice President Michihiro Sasaki saying that he wants to support consoles other then Sony, and, asked about Kingdom Hearts 3 citing "undecided", combined with Square Enix's continued interest and growing friendliness with Nintendo, I'd say this third event puts Kingdom Hearts 3's chances more towards the Wii then anything else. But everything is still up in the air, all pure speculation!

[Siren]

I am so over game systems. They keep coming out with "better" ones. Most of the time the games they put on the systems also end up on PCs anyways, and you don't need an extra $500+ to get your computer to play it. If I ever buy PS3. It will be when its $100. I refuse to pay more then that for a game system that will become obsolete in a year. I think Sony is disgusting for:
A.) Charging that much money for a game system that will only be top notch for a year, maybe two, before something "better" comes out.
B.) Putting a very small number in stores. Kids have already been mugged for it. Look at the XBox massacre here in Florida last year. They are just setting people up to fight...its not marketing, its disgusting. If they can't make more 400,000 for its debut in the USA, then they shouldn't have debuted it. They know people will get short changed, especially when these jerks are buying them only to sell them on Ebay to prey on idiotic parents wishing to please their children with presents instead of love. Of course the murders and parenting skills (and lack there of), can't be blamed on Playstation, however, Playstation is still an instrument of the stupidity of human beings.

Not to mention, I NEVER buy the first models. Look at all the bugs in the first models of Playstation 1 and 2. Some Playstation 2s don't even play the games they are suppost to. And then you have the fires starting with XBoxes. I rather wait till they get the bugs fixed. Let others burn their houses down and get electrcuted because they "couldn't wait" for a black box with graphics not much different then computers.

[Loomis]

Loomis, I hate to dissapoint you but KH3 if there is one may not be on the PS3 afterall... Accroding to the Article below it may be on the Wii. Which is the main reason I bought my PS3 in hopes there would be Kingdom Hearts game for it down the line. Here just read the following Also below is a link to this info posted on a Kingdom Hearts info website.

I was actually thinking in terms of using the PS3 to play the PS2 versions of KH1 & 2, assuming they will work on the promised backwards compatibility.

Having just preordered the Wii (with Zelda), knowing the KH3 may be out for the Wii is a bit of a bonus!

Not a disappointment at all, then

Actually, when I preordered my Wii, I was asking about the PS3 preorders out of curiosity (heaps of time, as ours isn't out until March next year). The guy pretty much said they were taking orders, but wait and see what prices will be like, as he thinks it will drop significantly by the time we get it. I hope so, as we are currently being charged at least $100 US more than you guys!

[disneyboy20022]

Loomis, I hate to dissapoint you but KH3 if there is one may not be on the PS3 afterall... Accroding to the Article below it may be on the Wii. Which is the main reason I bought my PS3 in hopes there would be Kingdom Hearts game for it down the line. Here just read the following Also below is a link to this info posted on a Kingdom Hearts info website.

I was actually thinking in terms of using the PS3 to play the PS2 versions of KH1 & 2, assuming they will work on the promised backwards compatibility.

My Kingdom Hearts II Works fine on my PS3 so I would imagine it will work on the Austrailian Version. Although I bought the 20 GB system since I don't have an HDTV nor a Broadband Internet connection. Then I Found out that the 20GB does not have memory Card slots. So Now I am trying to find something called a Memory Card Adapter for the PS3 which costs only around $15 USA Dollars so I thought it would cost a lot more. What that does from my understanding is that it transfers the data from your PS2 Memory card to the Playstation 3's Hard drive... But it would appear that its not out yet as most store's tell me that they never heard of it or to try back next week. Best buy and Circuit City tells me to try Gamestop or Eb Games and Gamestop/EB Games tells me to try Best buy and circuit City The only thing the stores Do have are HDTV Wires and controllers which are $50 USA Dollars for an extra controller....

[dvdjunkie]

Scanned the list of games that are supposed to not be compatible or have problems on the PS3, and have come up with this: I don't play 99% of those games, so it won't affect me. I am a racing fan, games like NASCAR, Ridge Racer, Need for Speed, World Rally Championships, Gran Turisimo 3 and 4, and sports games like Madden 2005, 2006, and PGA Tour Golf. All three of my ATV Off-Road Fury games play perfectly on the PS3. And most importantly my Disney Golf Game plays beautifully and that is one of the games that I play with most. There were supposed to have a second game and never have. Kingdom Hearts is a game that my wife and daughter play, and it works perfectly on the PS3.

I don't know if I ever will make use of all the things that this machine can do, but at least I can now watch Blu-Ray movies and my regular DVD's and play games all in one room again.

[DarthPrime]

How are the load times for games that you install rather than just read off the disc?

At 5 gig a game these hard drives are going to get filled fast on the install. Just wondering if its worth it speed wise to do the optional install.

[DarthPrime]

Since the PS3 doesn't come with anything other than composite cables, can you reuse PS2 component cables?

Also will any HDMI and Optical cable work? Or do you need to buy the PS3 cables?

[Just Myself]

Since the PS3 doesn't come with anything other than composite cables, can you reuse PS2 component cables?

Well, it's supposed to come with the Blu-Ray of Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby. That's a pretty sweet deal, considering the PS3 w/TN:TBORB hit the streets on November 17 while everyone buying the Blu-Ray (or DVD) seperately will have to wait until next Tuesday, 12/12.

Cheers,
JM

[2099net]

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/07/360-b ... ps3-on-tv/

Very, very interesting. Especially when you consider the following:

1] Fight Night Round 3 work-in-progress was shown by EA at the 2005 E3 show, reportedly being demoed on a PS3 devleopment kit (as this story confirms) so you can hardly claim it has been a rush release on the PS3 (and the Xbox360 version was released soon after the 360 was launched, and the PS3 already's been delayed at least 6 months from its original launch)

2] The above shows that the PS3 version is not a port of Xbox360 code (an excuse used by many to justify all other cross-platform 360/PS3 releases and comparisons which to date have all been in the 360's favour)

3] The developers have constantly stated that they were improving on the Xbox360's graphics as well as gameplay for the later PS3 release (they have added a new 1st person mode for the PS3, ESPN integration (EA Sports latest fad) and supposed visual enhancements)

[DarthPrime]

With more "must have" titles, and Blu-ray I'm finally set on a PS3 (I've debated PS3/360 for a year, or better. I don't know its been a long time.). So far the only thing I don't like about the PS3 is the mandatory game installs, but that is a minor issue when the hard drive can be easily upgraded.

Anyway I'm set to get a PS3 sometime later this year (Fall probably). My biggest question right now is the 40 gig PS3 going to start shipping with a Dual Shock 3 anytime soon? And for anyone that has added a bigger hard drive to the PS3 are there any recommendations for certain drives that work well?

[PixarFan2006]

Personally I'd rather have a Wii than a Playstation 3 (hey that rhymed! )

I will have to take back what I said, seeing that I have had my Playstation 3 for about a month now. I only have one game for it though, and that is Grand Theft Auto 4, which is fun and looks great on my standard tv.

I still hope to get an HD TV someday so I can take advantage of the Blu-Ray player.

[DarthPrime]

Personally I'd rather have a Wii than a Playstation 3 (hey that rhymed! )

I will have to take back what I said, seeing that I have had my Playstation 3 for about a month now. I only have one game for it though, and that is Grand Theft Auto 4, which is fun and looks great on my standard tv.

I still hope to get an HD TV someday so I can take advantage of the Blu-Ray player.

Not to start a console war on UD, but I feel the same way now. I don't have a PS3 yet (I game on my friends PS3), but if I had to choose I'd take the PS3 over the Wii. Last year it was a different story when I bought my Wii.

[Mr. Toad]

Okay I have a problem with my Playstation 3. I can't get it to play in anything but 16:9 1.78 aspect ratio. I have tried with several movies and am currently tying to play the Song Remains the Same which is 1.85 to 1.

So there should be black bars, right?, but there aren't any. I have tried to browse through the menus but can not find anything but a delection for 4:3 TVs. Anybody got any ideas?

Crimson Tide is suposed to be 2:40 to 1. On my Tv the image is 21.25x47.5 or about 2.24:1.

[DarthPrime]

Okay I have a problem with my Playstation 3. I can't get it to play in anything but 16:9 1.78 aspect ratio. I have tried with several movies and am currently tying to play the Song Remains the Same which is 1.85 to 1.

So there should be black bars, right?, but there aren't any. I have tried to browse through the menus but can not find anything but a delection for 4:3 TVs. Anybody got any ideas?

Crimson Tide is suposed to be 2:40 to 1. On my Tv the image is 21.25x47.5 or about 2.24:1.

Your using a widescreen HDTV right? If so make sure its set to 16:9 or Widescreen. I don't have a PS3 so I'm not sure what the menu setting for this is.

Anyway if its already set it sounds like overscan on the TV, not a problem with the PS3. Most TVs don't show black bars with 1.85:1 movies because of this, although technically there should be very tiny bars. You could try to change the TVs overscan, but you would have to go into one of the "hidden" service menus for your TV (something I personally wouldn't do).

[2099net]

Mr Toad, I assume you are talking about DVDs playing on the PS3 rather than Blu-rays?

Although I have not experienced this myself exactly as you mention it, it sounds like you need to fiddle with the upscaler methods.

Make sure your BD/DVD display is set to "letterbox", and upscale is "normal". This is how my PS3 is configured and I've not had any problems with 2.35/2.40 etc films - they all display black bars above/below the image. Note 1.85:1 movies will probably not display black borders at the top of bottom because of a combination of overscan and/or lax aspect ratio control during the DVD encoding. Most DVDs are actually 16:9 even when stated as 1.85:1

Regarding the other aspects though, note if the Upscaler is set to "full" it will automatically resize the image to fill your screen (I know 4:3 output is shown as 16:9 - perhaps it scales the image vertically as well as horizontally, automatically detecting the constant black areas at the top of bottom of the frame and eliminating them?).

When playing DVDs you can dynamically alter the upscaling method by pressing triangle to bring up the on-screen control panel and selecting "A/V Options" (I think, I can't actually check now, but the icon looks like sliders), so you should see with immediate feedback if this is the problem.