The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian

xxhplinkxx · Post by **xxhplinkxx** » Fri May 16, 2008 10:47 pm

Ok, I just saw it and I have a question for others who already have as well:

*Spoilers*

What did Aslan mean at the end when they were going back home about "your brother and sister (Peter and Susan) have nothing left to learn here" or something like that? Does that mean that Ed and Lucy will return but they wont? I don't get it.

PeterPanfan · Post by **PeterPanfan** » Fri May 16, 2008 10:58 pm

Aslan, first of all.

And in the books only Lucy and Edmund come back.

DaveWadding · Post by **DaveWadding** » Sat May 17, 2008 12:28 am

rs_milo_whatever wrote:yes, they added and switched around too many things

I havent read the book in many many years (and certainly dont have it memorized the way I do LWW) but a lot of things felt changed to me. That said, I'm gonna get my hands on the book, read it, and see the movie again and see how I feel. (Note to self: Buy the whole set of books, stupid!)

Also, DK, Horse and His Boy last?! You're not my friend anymore...

Widdi · Post by **Widdi** » Sat May 17, 2008 12:57 am

xxhplinkxx wrote:Ok, I just saw it and I have a question for others who already have as well:

*Spoilers*

What did Asland mean at the end when they were going back home about "your brother and sister (Peter and Susan) have nothing left to learn here" or something like that? Does that mean that Ed and Lucy will return but they wont? I don't get it.

I haven't read the series since 5th grade (ten years ago... Holy crap I feel old saying that) but I remember Susan loses her ability to enter Narnia when she discovers "sex". I don't remember why Peter never goes back. Aslan saying this at the end of PC could avoid them having to dive into the issue of why Sue and Peter can't return.

Barbossa · Post by **Barbossa** » Sat May 17, 2008 2:16 am

Widdi wrote: I remember Susan loses her ability to enter Narnia when she discovers "sex".

I wonder if that'll be one of the deleted scenes on the DVD.

Seriously, I just got back from watching PC and it was just as enjoyable as the first one.

Ugly Pig · Post by **Ugly Pig** » Sat May 17, 2008 6:22 am

Widdi wrote:I haven't read the series since 5th grade (ten years ago... Holy crap I feel old saying that) but I remember Susan loses her ability to enter Narnia when she discovers "sex". I don't remember why Peter never goes back. Aslan saying this at the end of PC could avoid them having to dive into the issue of why Sue and Peter can't return.

Nope... it was always that way in the book, that is; Aslan telling the two of them they won't be coming back to Narnia at the end of PC. Susan discovering boys happens way later, and has nothing to do with her not returning to Narnia. IIRC, in PC the book Aslan said the two of them were getting "too old" to come back.

"Dawn Treader" SPOILER

He tells Edmund and Lucy the same thing at the end of the next one.

Ariel'sprince · Post by **Ariel'sprince** » Sat May 17, 2008 6:53 am

Widdi wrote:
xxhplinkxx wrote:Ok, I just saw it and I have a question for others who already have as well:

*Spoilers*

What did Asland mean at the end when they were going back home about "your brother and sister (Peter and Susan) have nothing left to learn here" or something like that? Does that mean that Ed and Lucy will return but they wont? I don't get it.
I haven't read the series since 5th grade (ten years ago... Holy crap I feel old saying that) but I remember Susan loses her ability to enter Narnia when she discovers "sex". I don't remember why Peter never goes back. Aslan saying this at the end of PC could avoid them having to dive into the issue of why Sue and Peter can't return.

No,that's not what happend,they were too old to visit Narnia,He tells the same thing to Lucy and Edmund in the end of VODT.
I want to see the film already

.

Disneykid · Post by **Disneykid** » Sat May 17, 2008 9:24 am

Yeah, for some reason (SPOILERS AGAIN!!) people think that Susan doesn't join her siblings in The Last Battle because she liked boys and makeup, which isn't the case at all. She became so wrapped up in boys and material things that she forgot about Narnia and Aslan, convincing herself it was all make-believe. She still could've been interested in boys, makeup, and parties while still holding on to Narnia. Lots of people find that Lewis was being cruel to her, but I think the death of her family served as a wake-up call to get her priorities in order. I believe when it was finally her time to go, she ended up in Narnia with everyone else.

DaveWadding wrote:Also, DK, Horse and His Boy last?! You're not my friend anymore...

Hey, I don't hate the book!

But for some reason, it just didn't connect with me. I had to force myself to keep reading (Prince Caspian is the only other Narnia book to do that to me). It's certainly not a bad book, though, and it picks up towards the end (just like Prince Caspian). On a scale of 1 to 10, I'd give it a 6. Better than average, but not exactly good, either. I will say, however, that The Horse and His Boy's plot and structure lends itself well to film. If they expand it the way they've done for LWW and PC, it should turn out really well.

Ariel'sprince · Post by **Ariel'sprince** » Sat May 17, 2008 9:36 am

Disneykid wrote:Yeah, for some reason (SPOILERS AGAIN!!) people think that Susan doesn't join her siblings in The Last Battle because she liked boys and makeup, which isn't the case at all. She became so wrapped up in boys and material things that she forgot about Narnia and Aslan, convincing herself it was all make-believe. She still could've been interested in boys, makeup, and parties while still holding on to Narnia. Lots of people find that Lewis was being cruel to her, but I think the death of her family served as a wake-up call to get her priorities in order. I believe when it was finally her time to go, she ended up in Narnia with everyone else.

But Disneykid,She should have been with them,they"re the kings and queens,it's ruines,I agree that this wrapped up wasn't good but stil,she should have been in Narnia with the others.

Disneykid · Post by **Disneykid** » Sat May 17, 2008 9:48 am

Yeah, but she needed to believe in Narnia and Aslan again before going back. If Aslan brought her back the same time as the others, it'd be hypocritical of Him to bring someone to Narnia who no longer is faithful. She might've responded the same way the dwarfs did: by not seeing anything at all except a black void. Also, if you think about it, it's Susan's own fault for not getting on the train with the others. I'm willing to bet Lucy begged her to come with them, but that she scoffed and laughed it off saying she had better things to do. I just hope the movie version suggests that it's not too late for Susan, like maybe having Lucy ask Aslan about it and Him giving her hope.

Poody · Post by **Poody** » Sat May 17, 2008 9:51 am

I saw it Thursday at Midnight.... I liked it a lot

I think I prefer the first film though, but it was pretty good.... and.... Prince Caspian was hot

DaveWadding · Post by **DaveWadding** » Sat May 17, 2008 9:55 am

My one question is this:

Who let Inigo Montoya into Narnia?

My name is Ini...I mean PRINCE CASPIAN! You killed my father. Prepare to die.

Come on now.

PeterPanfan · Post by **PeterPanfan** » Sat May 17, 2008 9:57 am

I saw it, and I don't know what to think of it.

Let's just say that the first one was much better.

Ariel'sprince · Post by **Ariel'sprince** » Sat May 17, 2008 9:58 am

Disneykid wrote:Yeah, but she needed to believe in Narnia and Aslan again before going back. If Aslan brought her back the same time as the others, it'd be hypocritical of Him to bring someone to Narnia who no longer is faithful. She might've responded the same way the dwarfs did: by not seeing anything at all except a black void. Also, if you think about it, it's Susan's own fault for not getting on the train with the others. I'm willing to bet Lucy begged her to come with them, but that she scoffed and laughed it off saying she had better things to do. I just hope the movie version suggests that it's not too late for Susan, like maybe having Lucy ask Aslan about it and Him giving her hope.

Oh,I see your point I guess that in the film version she"ll keep believing in Narnia and will come with the others.

yukitora · Post by **yukitora** » Sat May 17, 2008 11:12 am

The not-so-positive reactions to the film so far are a little discouraging...

I'm not sure I should bother seeing it in cinemas when it hits Australia. After all, it took a good while to admire the first movie. Gosh I hated the movie the first time round

TheSequelOfDisney · Post by **TheSequelOfDisney** » Sat May 17, 2008 11:25 am

I saw it yesterday and I have to say that it was really, really good. Even though I'm not as familiar as the PC story as I am with TLTWaTW, I thought it was done really well. I think that people aren't going to like "Prince Caspian" as much just because they have probably only read (or even heard of) "The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe," so why watch it's sequel....

Anyway, I will definitely be picking this up on Blu-ray and might even go see it again at the theaters. Oh, and I need to send in my ticket stubs (almost forgot). I just hope that PC makes as much money as the previous TCoN film did.

rs_milo_whatever · Post by **rs_milo_whatever** » Sat May 17, 2008 12:44 pm

*spoilers*

I'll admit, in one point of the film, I thought that they were gonna kill Susan off, especially in the battle scene when Peter asked "what happens back home if we die here?" and right afterwards the catapult attacks seemed to get even closer to Susan; I mean, it seemd kind of smart to have her die, then at the last film she can actually come back to Narnia.

I never really thought Disney would have Susan not come back to Narnia, its one of those changes I could have very easily forgiven.

Mouseketodd · Post by **Mouseketodd** » Sat May 17, 2008 2:29 pm

We've come from having watched "Prince Caspian" and I must say, I was not disappointed!! It was a very compelling movie and a strong sequel -- though the whole Narnia subject is a series and this story isn't really a sequel.

I read the series as a kid, and have only read "The Magician's Nephew" and part of "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" as an adult (I'm starting to read "Prince Caspian".). I sure hope "The Magician's Nephew" becomes a movie. It would be nice to see how it is interpreted and displayed. The origin of the wardrobe is revealed in this book.

Widdi · Post by **Widdi** » Sat May 17, 2008 7:51 pm

PC is doing worse at the box office than TLTWATW did. It made about 19.5 million on Friday compared to the 23 Million the first film made on it's first day of release, putting it on track to open probably around the 58 million mark. Unless it has strong stamina (which is doubtful considering how packed with blockbusters this season is) it's on its way to making less money overall than the first movie. Probably significantly less considering the lack of competition wardrobe had three years ago that really helped boost its box office receipts.

If you are hoping for more Narnia movies I suggest you don't hold your breath. We may get VOTDT, but the Narnia movies that don't star these kids probably will not come to fruition.

rs_milo_whatever · Post by **rs_milo_whatever** » Sat May 17, 2008 7:55 pm

its kind of Disney's fault for releasing it at this time, when they could have used the spot Walden Media used for The Water Horse

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