I've never said that the "new" colours are exactly the same as the cels, or even exactly the same as the originals. But I do believe that they are closer to the originals than the copy most people saw first. Marky seems to have the opinion that bright colour didn't exist on film in the 1940s and 1950s, which is totally wrong. MGM was well known for its bright, technicolor musicals for example.Disney Duster wrote:And actually, the pictures you posted just continue my dissatisfaction with the restoration. Firstly, the pictures of Cinderella under the moonlight differ a lot. It even shows an example of one of the things I noticed the restoration did, it made some of the outlines thinner and even disappear. Just compare Cinderella's face in the cel and the screencap, among the other parts of her. The stepsisters' pictures differ, just less so. I didn't actually have a lot of problems with the stepsisters' colors, I thought they looked how I remembered them in most scenes. Disney would rather change Cinderella because she is what little girls will be looking at. Finally, as deathie said, the cels and the technicolor prints are supposed to look different, anyway, so they shouldn't necessarily match the "orginal cel setups".
Why wouldn't he use such colouring for his animated movies. Remember, by 1950 Walt's films had to compete and appeal against not only other colour movies but also television.
Disney presumably used bright colours for it's animated shorts. I've not seen one person complain about the colours on the various Disney Treasures sets of animated shorts. And I hate to say it so bluntly, but the Animated films from the war time package films onwards until around the time of Oliver and Company used different colouring techniques - presumably to cut costs. They all used primarily single block colour without extensive shading or blending. It's quicker to paint in this manner, and time is money. Cinderella looks different from Snow White or Pinocchio just as much for this change in style as for its intensity of colour.
As for the lines an the Cinderella picture you mention, this is a different issue from people who say "Cinderella's dress is too blue, it should be silver." I will however say this about my screen cap, the entire JPEG file is about 22K, the cel reproduction is about 160K. The Cinderella on the cel reproduction is also bigger. So I don't think you can do a like for like comparison, as detail will be lost. Perhaps somebody else would be able to produce a higher quality screen capture from the DVD of that frame.
Perhaps you could produce and post a higher quality capture yourself then!However, thank you for going this far into the search for the truth. Some day I will post pictures that will reveal why the restoration is incorrect.
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So no I didn't see any of this evidence, and at no point did I claim to believe I know more than industry people, technicolor experts or Lowry Digital.
