"Alice in Wonderland" goes Platinum

gl2686 · Post by **gl2686** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:39 am

so i guess Alice will have a new dvd coming out on oct 21.. the ''magical edition'' its on wikipedia..

UmbrellaFish · Post by **UmbrellaFish** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:44 am

gl2686 wrote:so i guess Alice will have a new dvd coming out on oct 21.. the ''magical edition'' its on wikipedia..

Just a dumb rumor. I'm sure. UD would learn of that before Wikipedia.

SpringHeelJack · Post by **SpringHeelJack** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:39 am

But wikipedia said it! It must be so! Make it right!

Flanger-Hanger · Post by **Flanger-Hanger** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:18 pm

SpringHeelJack wrote:But wikipedia said it! It must be so! Make it right!

So true! The World would, like, fall apart if it wasn't.

gl2686 · Post by **gl2686** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:42 pm

hope its not... whats the point of re-release it again...

steve · Post by **steve** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:29 am

Here in Ireland and the UK, the "Masterpiece Edition" of Alice in Wonderland was renamed simply "Special Edition", and had only one disc. I'm not sure how much of the extras were left out of our Alice, but I'm sure a Platinum Edition could improve upon the "Special Edition" we have at the moment.

Unless it's anything like Peter Pan...

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:02 am

gl2686 wrote:whats the point of re-release it again...

For starters they could include ALL the song demos that were on the laserdisc but didn't make it to the DVD. Along with ALL the concept/design/production stills that were on the laserdisc but not on the DVD. Not to mention the archival radio interviews done, the BBC radio dramatization, live-action reference footage (some is seen in "Operation Wonderland"), the complete 1939 and 1943 storyboards, and a whole lot more from the laserdisc that has yet to see the light on DVD/BluRay.

And for new materials, a new retrospective documentary that looks at the making of the film, a biographical documentary on Charles Dodgson (aka Lewis Carroll), and a commentary by Kathryn Beaumont and John Canemaker would really make the set great.

Albert

Jules · Post by **Jules** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:15 am

Escapay wrote:the BBC radio dramatization

Wouldn't they need permission to include that?

Or is it in the public domain?

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:47 am

Julian Carter wrote:
Escapay wrote:the BBC radio dramatization
Wouldn't they need permission to include that? Or is it in the public domain?

It was on the Exclusive Archives Collection laserdisc so they could easily re-negotiate the rights for it again.

Albert

Ariel'sprince · Post by **Ariel'sprince** » Thu May 01, 2008 8:10 am

So there will be a Platinum Edition? how's the 2004 DVD?.

2099net · Post by **2099net** » Thu May 01, 2008 8:20 am

Escapay wrote:
Julian Carter wrote: Wouldn't they need permission to include that? Or is it in the public domain?
It was on the Exclusive Archives Collection laserdisc so they could easily re-negotiate the rights for it again.

Albert

They would need to license it. But plenty of other companies, especially Warner Bros manage to licence BBC content for their DVDs. Such as the documentary on the Exorcist DVD. So it's not impossible - its just Disney would no doubt rather spend the money on dressing some poor sap up as the man hatter and having a gaggle of <strike>brats</strike> kids runaround him screaming.

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Thu May 01, 2008 8:40 am

Sprince wrote:how's the 2004 DVD?.

Reading is good for the mind.

Click

netty wrote:
Albert wrote: It was on the Exclusive Archives Collection laserdisc so they could easily re-negotiate the rights for it again.

Albert
They would need to license it.

I wonder if Disney will, though. Not much non-Disney (well, non-exclusively-Disney) material shows up on their DVDs anymore, so unless Disney bought it outright and has yet to tell us...

Still, is it even something worth listening to, at least for today's audience? There'll definitely be a nostalgia factor for people who listened to it back in the day, as well as the collection factor for people who want every little thing related to whatever it is they're collecting. But for most people today (especially the iPod generation whose idea of a radio show is internet podcasts...), a 50+ year old audio program may not be the most enticing thing they'd want to buy in a DVD.

netty wrote:But plenty of other companies, especially Warner Bros manage to licence BBC content for their DVDs. Such as the documentary on the Exorcist DVD.

I can't really think of many DVDs by non-Warner companies that licenced out BBC content for DVDs. The only ones I know of is the Alien <strike>Tetra</strike>Quadrilogy (which uses the Alien Evolution documentary, except re-edited to focus only on Alien and not the other three films...), and The Dreamers (which includes the BBC documentary Bertolucci Makes The Dreamers). Both were from Fox.

But I know plenty of Warner DVDs have BBC material (among other things: the aforementioned Exorcist DVD, as well as the Kubrick two-disc sets. And I think there's a BBC documentary about Mario Lanza in one of their Classic Musicals from the Dream Factory boxsets.)

netty wrote:So it's not impossible - its just Disney would no doubt rather spend the money on dressing some poor sap up as the mad hatter and having a gaggle of <strike>brats</strike> kids runaround him screaming.

That's the one bonus feature on Disney DVD that to date I have NEVER finished. It's so mind-numbingly stupid for me to watch that I just can't do it.

Albert

Ariel'sprince · Post by **Ariel'sprince** » Thu May 01, 2008 8:46 am

Escapay wrote:
Sprince wrote:how's the 2004 DVD?.
Reading is good for the mind.

Click

Like we don't know that

.
My point was if it's good as a Platinum Edition?.

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Thu May 01, 2008 9:00 am

Sprince wrote:My point was if it's good as a Platinum Edition?.

No.

Albert

Old Fish Tale · Post by **Old Fish Tale** » Thu May 01, 2008 9:09 am

I want a better transfer!

Flanger-Hanger · Post by **Flanger-Hanger** » Thu May 01, 2008 2:03 pm

Old Fish Tale wrote:I want a better transfer!

why?

Old Fish Tale · Post by **Old Fish Tale** » Thu May 01, 2008 2:15 pm

I want it to look like 'Peter Pan' Platinum Edition!

SpringHeelJack · Post by **SpringHeelJack** » Thu May 01, 2008 2:22 pm

Garishly washed-out?

Disneykid · Post by **Disneykid** » Thu May 01, 2008 7:16 pm

Old Fish Tale wrote:I want a better transfer!

What on earth could you possibly find wrong with this one? It's as perfect as anyone (sane) could ask for. I'm positive the Blu-Ray will utilize the same restoration. It was done by Lowry, and their work is done at a 4K resolution, ready for high-definition.

pikachufan1336 · Post by **pikachufan1336** » Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:53 pm

I know this is post is older than shit but I have news to share with yall

I have been wondering why they have canceled the Platinum Edition of Alice and Dumbo and Fantasia for YEARS
I bugged Disney about it for a while and I finally go an answer

Yes, Alice and Dumbo are indeed part of the Vault, the treaded Vault.

As it turns out, they fucked up the Schedule and released everything on special. Alice was going to go into the Vault some time after it's blu ray, same with Dumbo. But because of the Success of Tim Burtons Alice, the film got a sequel announced very soon afterwards, and because of that Disney decided to hold off from Vaulting the 60th anniversary until then. Dumbo went through something kind of similar. They decided to release it on special and kind of left it hanging in mid air, not exactly knowing what to do with it, but they are probably keeping it out for the live action remake (I guess they knew about that all along).

All I know is: The Person I talked to via Disney Home Entertainment said that the 2 films are indeed part of the Disney Vault marketing tool.

There is no certainty if they will be released on Diamond (though I guess I can see Alice in 2016, to cross promote Tim Burton Sequel).

But they will go back into the vault eventually, according to the person I talked to.

As for previous comments.

Alice in Wonderland is indeed critically acclaimed, sure not as much as something like Dumbo or Pinocchio, but neither is Peter Pan.

Yes Walt hated Alice but he also hated Sleeping Beauty, Dalmatians, and Peter. His opinions of the film as well as the critical opinions of the film initially are outdated and irrelevant. The movie is VERY successful on DVD, the film is exploited in marketing and is very successful, as is Dumbo (though not as much).

Pocahontas won't happen in a million years. sorry, but critics LOATH that movie. The Disney Vault includes films that make them look good. No matter how much money it makes they're not going to release a film that will make them look bad (otherwise Robin Hood would be in there).

All of the post Lion Disney films of the 90s are looked upon by the Disney company as a MEH success overall. It has fans but most people won't say that they are the best Disney movies out there. It shows since they don't make as much money as the others, they just...exist.

I'm sure the topic has been brought up in shareholder meetings such as
let's make Meg a Disney Princess
let's put Mulan in the Vault
etc.

but whenever it is I imagine it's met with Awkward Smiles and............"nooooooooooo....."
And at this point I don't really blame them.

Bottom Line, Alice and Dumbo are in the Vault

And from what I suspect Tangled, Wreck it Ralph and Frozen will join them in the future

Unless they stop the Vault thing altogether (come on we all see that coming)

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