DVD and Blu-Ray!!

All topics relating to Disney-branded content.
User avatar
MICKEYMOUSE
Special Edition
Posts: 738
Joined: Mon May 09, 2005 12:16 pm
Location: Disneyland

DVD and Blu-Ray!!

Post by MICKEYMOUSE »

I think I will start doing this starting with Enchanted becuase I loved the movie so much. I will buy both DVD, and Blu-Ray. It will only be this, and the Platium Edition movies that I will buy in both versons. Who eles is going to do this?
"If you can dream it, you can do it." - Walt Disney
User avatar
2099net
Signature Collection
Posts: 9421
Joined: Sat Apr 19, 2003 1:00 pm
Location: UK
Contact:

Post by 2099net »

Confession: I did buy the (US) DVD of Ghost Rider after buying the (UK) Blu-ray. But I really wanted the comic book doc, which the idiots had left off the Blu-ray release. :x (I'm a Marvel Zombie)

But I don't really see the point in buying both, especially as the Blu-ray will 99% of the time be the better version. Just stick to that.
Most of my Blu-ray collection some of my UK discs aren't on their database
ichabod
Diamond Edition
Posts: 4676
Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2003 8:29 am
Location: The place where they didn't build EuroDisney
Contact:

Re: DVD and Blu-Ray!!

Post by ichabod »

MICKEYMOUSE wrote:Who eles is going to do this?
Only people due to be sectioned.

Not to be rude, but could you explain why you are getting both?
I get the fact that you like the movie, but everything on the DVD is on the blu-ray anyway and the since you have the bluray, the DVD is pratically inferior waste of money.

Can you really think of nothing better to waste your money on? Why not try and get it on VHS as well?
User avatar
REINIER
Anniversary Edition
Posts: 1026
Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:15 am
Location: NETHERLANDS, THE

Post by REINIER »

My thougts exactly! :D
When it comes to brains, I got the lion-share,
but when it comes to bruth strength, I'm afraid I'm at the shallow end of the gene pool
Image
Marky_198
Anniversary Edition
Posts: 1019
Joined: Tue May 01, 2007 11:06 am

Post by Marky_198 »

I doubt it if blu ray will have a big future.

The general audience won't bother to buy a player as they've just bought a dvd player.

Only the fanatics that are interested in the newest gadgets are interested.

I know many people that just switched from vhs to dvd only a few months ago.

Also, almost everyone has quite a dvd collection by now.
People get really annoyed by it and will protest.
User avatar
REINIER
Anniversary Edition
Posts: 1026
Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:15 am
Location: NETHERLANDS, THE

Post by REINIER »

Marky_198 wrote:I doubt it if blu ray will have a big future.

The general audience won't bother to buy a player as they've just bought a dvd player.

Only the fanatics that are interested in the newest gadgets are interested.

I know many people that just switched from vhs to dvd only a few months ago.

Also, almost everyone has quite a dvd collection by now.
People get really annoyed by it and will protest.

Hate to burst your bubble but those people (vhs) must be living in the stone ages!

Anyway and this is in now way an attack on you! :D , it's un upgrade, therefore it's more expensive and eventually it is meant to replace dvd alltogether.

You don't have to buy it if you don't want to right?
When it comes to brains, I got the lion-share,
but when it comes to bruth strength, I'm afraid I'm at the shallow end of the gene pool
Image
Marky_198
Anniversary Edition
Posts: 1019
Joined: Tue May 01, 2007 11:06 am

Post by Marky_198 »

You would be surprised if you'd find out how many people still have vhs.
I have a dvd player for years and a big dvd collection, but I still have my old vhs tapes too. And yes, many, many people just switched recently.
Remember, most people aren't into the newest gadgets, this is something for the audio, video, technique 'freaks'.

But things like this have happened in the past.
Like laserdisc. Better picture quality, true, but the general audience just isn't that interested. They still sticked to vhs with it's flaws.

Even with regular cd's, they tried to replace them so many times, minidisc, etc, but after all those years it's still normal cd's you see in the stores.

Besides, the picture quality on dvd's is perfect anyway.
Do you really think the whole world is interested in a new format while they've just bought a dvd player and collected many, many dvd's? And start all over again?
No....this is just a nice gadget for the fanatics. It takes A LOT to conquer the world and the general audience.
BrizMarc
Member
Posts: 5
Joined: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:35 am

Post by BrizMarc »

Marky_198 wrote: Besides, the picture quality on dvd's is perfect anyway.
Try watching Bluray on a high def tv for a week and then go back and watch a dvd. You wont be saying that then.

In a few years all new tvs on the market will be high def and they will stop selling dvd players as blurays will become standard and of course they play dvds too so old collections aren't waisted..

I know people dont wanna get into bluray but at some point you will have no choice. I think dvds would have close to 10 years left but bluray will be over 50% of the market in 5 years from now.


Most tv channels are already high def or on there way. People have to understand this isnt a "new tech gaget" only for hardcore fans. It what is about to become standard.
Marky_198
Anniversary Edition
Posts: 1019
Joined: Tue May 01, 2007 11:06 am

Post by Marky_198 »

"Try watching Bluray on a high def tv for a week and then go back and watch a dvd. You wont be saying that then"

Most people won't try it till they're completely forced and have no choice.

But normal dvd's can be played on a blu ray player?
Is the size of the discs the same?
So Blu ray players are in fact DVD players wit an extra strong laser so it can also read discs with more than 2 layers?
Matt
Anniversary Edition
Posts: 1778
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2003 11:33 am
Location: New Jersey, USA

Post by Matt »

I just would like to see Blu-ray get cheaper, then I will start the switch, but until then, I will stick with DVD.

Also, there are still movie titles on VHS that haven't even gone to DVD yet, so why are they pushing this so fast?
CornyCollins
Limited Issue
Posts: 96
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:41 pm

Post by CornyCollins »

As far as switching to Blu-Ray is concerned, i've made the switch and placed an order for a Blu-Ray player last week - it should arrive in a few days or so. Why did I switch? Well, I was perfectly fine with standard DVD but I saw the Blu-Ray difference and well, being a big movie fan, I figured it was time. Also, the HD-DVD VS. Blu-Ray format war is over so I finally was able to make my decision and I was leaning towards Blu anyway. Another reason I switched now is so that I can start to build my Blu-Ray collection. Disney's "Enchanted" being released on Blu-Ray as well as my all time favorite Disney classic "Sleeping Beauty" and I didn't want to buy them on regular dvd only to replace them with Blu-Ray in the future. Are replacements necessary - absolutely not. Blu-Ray players will upconvert your standard DVD's to near HD quality, but of course, a True Blu-Ray disc will be superior to upconversion.

I do think the Blu titles are rather expensive in most cases, however, I know there are frequent sales so I'm going to try and catch them. Amazon.com has the best deals on them from what I can see.

As far as players are concerned, I think the prices will drop by 2009 - possibly right before Christmas of 2008. Do I think it will take over DVD?, not a chance for a long time - but after a few years, it may be more common. I see it as simply another option. The more people who upgrade their tv to HDTV's might be more willing to go Blu for their movies. I found my player at a reasonable price and it is by far NOT the most extravagant machine - but it's good to start my collection with this specific player.

Do I think you should buy the Blu-Ray "Enchanted" and the standard DVD? No, honestly, the Blu-Ray release will have the most features - so there really is no reason. The only thing I can think of to justify this is if you wanted an "extra gift" thing that comes with the DVD such as the stuff from Best Buy or Wal-Mart - these will most likely be packaged with the standard DVD release - of course if they aren't "packaged together" and sealed, and the free is gift is something an employee just takes out of a box and hands you with the purchase, than you'll get that with your Blu-Ray purchase - other than that - there's no reason. But, to each their own, and if you feel it's necessary, go for it.

I could be wrong, and everything I said is strictly opinion - but we'll just have to wait and see.
Last edited by CornyCollins on Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"I'm the man who keeps it spinnin' round - Mr. Corny Collins with the latest, greatest, Baltimore sound!" - Corny Collins (Hairspray).
CornyCollins
Limited Issue
Posts: 96
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:41 pm

Post by CornyCollins »

Marky_198 wrote:"Try watching Bluray on a high def tv for a week and then go back and watch a dvd. You wont be saying that then"

Most people won't try it till they're completely forced and have no choice.

But normal dvd's can be played on a blu ray player?
Is the size of the discs the same?
So Blu ray players are in fact DVD players wit an extra strong laser so it can also read discs with more than 2 layers?
Yes, normal DVD's can be played in Blu-Ray players and can be "Upconverted" to near HD quality - there really is no need to upgrade your entire collection except for maybe a few of your favorites because obviously the Blu-Ray version will still be superior.
"I'm the man who keeps it spinnin' round - Mr. Corny Collins with the latest, greatest, Baltimore sound!" - Corny Collins (Hairspray).
ichabod
Diamond Edition
Posts: 4676
Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2003 8:29 am
Location: The place where they didn't build EuroDisney
Contact:

Post by ichabod »

Marky_198 wrote:But normal dvd's can be played on a blu ray player?
Is the size of the discs the same?
So Blu ray players are in fact DVD players wit an extra strong laser so it can also read discs with more than 2 layers?
Just thought I'd point out how interesting it is that after bashing HD and saying how fruitless it is, you then clearly display that you don't even know what blu-ray is or how it or HD work.

Read that for an in detail description of how HD works:
http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages ... 84986.html

Or for something simpler on bluray:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/feature.html ... 1000128123

Or for a more pictorial comparison on standard DVD and HD:
http://www.cornbread.org/FOTRCompare/FO ... 1_DVD.html
CampbellzSoup

Post by CampbellzSoup »

WHO CARES what the general audience is interested in? As long as their is a profitable market (even small) from Blu Ray High Def Disney will always dump their movies on there.
User avatar
MICKEYMOUSE
Special Edition
Posts: 738
Joined: Mon May 09, 2005 12:16 pm
Location: Disneyland

Post by MICKEYMOUSE »

I don't know why so much anger came from this post that I started! So everyone here is telling me lets say own Snow White on VHS, you didn't buy it on DVD years later? Yes of course the picture is better, and everything is better on DVD, and was the reason for the purchase...etc, etc. Disney is the one that has there movies in vaults and wont releases it for 5-10 years. I was just thinking to myself for Disney movie, and classics that Disney is known to releases every 5-10 years. Also Disney itself has a coupon in the DVD version to get $10.00 off the Blu-Ray version. Why do that then? I know they want to make more money, but I was just thinking as a collectors point of view. I guess I will just invest in the Blu-Ray version of Enchanted, because of the extras. And don't tell me you guys never double dipped on a movie on DVD! Because if one were to buy it both on DVD, and Blu-Ray is the same thing!!
"If you can dream it, you can do it." - Walt Disney
User avatar
Disney Lover
Special Edition
Posts: 927
Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:58 am
Contact:

Post by Disney Lover »

The coupon is for Enchanted BluRay? Where did you get it?

I want to switch to a BluRay but I'm going to wait till the price gets a bit cheaper. Maybe it will be my Christmas present to myself. We will see. Also, you can use a blu ray player with a regular tv right? Cause I know I won't be able to afford an HDTV for at least a year yet.
Marky_198
Anniversary Edition
Posts: 1019
Joined: Tue May 01, 2007 11:06 am

Post by Marky_198 »

ichabod wrote:
Marky_198 wrote:But normal dvd's can be played on a blu ray player?
Is the size of the discs the same?
So Blu ray players are in fact DVD players wit an extra strong laser so it can also read discs with more than 2 layers?
Just thought I'd point out how interesting it is that after bashing HD and saying how fruitless it is, you then clearly display that you don't even know what blu-ray is or how it or HD work.

Read that for an in detail description of how HD works:
http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages ... 84986.html

Or for something simpler on bluray:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/feature.html ... 1000128123

Or for a more pictorial comparison on standard DVD and HD:
http://www.cornbread.org/FOTRCompare/FO ... 1_DVD.html
I know exactly how it all works.

I just didn't know Blu Ray players are just dvd players that are a bit upgraded and play normal dvd's too. So There's no problem at all.
Marky_198
Anniversary Edition
Posts: 1019
Joined: Tue May 01, 2007 11:06 am

Post by Marky_198 »

CampbellzSoup wrote:WHO CARES what the general audience is interested in? As long as their is a profitable market (even small) from Blu Ray High Def Disney will always dump their movies on there.
Because the thing that the general audience wants is what will stay.

Look at laserdisc. Years ago people said the same thig you're saying now.
And then one day they got very frustrated because they just stopped making them.
User avatar
a-net-fan
Gold Classic Collection
Posts: 454
Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:11 pm
Location: AMERICA

Post by a-net-fan »

I wont get a Blu Ray player until my DVD player dies. After that I will pry upgrade but wont replace my DVD collection. I think the quality is just fine for home use. :) And I agree with the person who started this topic. Why all the anger in the posts???
JUST ANOTHER 27 YEAR OLD DISNEY BUFF.....
User avatar
DarthPrime
Collector's Edition
Posts: 2520
Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:55 pm

Post by DarthPrime »

I still don't think Blu-ray will take off like DVD did. Blu-ray may eventually overtake DVD but it will be a long time before it does. What I think will happen is Blu-ray remains niche while DVD is standard, until the next format comes out that replaces both.

Anyway I hope to get a Blu-ray player this year. I'm debating between a couple of models (all are coming soon), and also a PS3. I have no clue what I'll end up getting. I will be buying new releases, and titles I don't have on Blu-ray after I get a player.

On a few select titles (Platinum Editions) I might still get the DVD to watch on different TVs, etc... since I will only have 1 Blu-ray player. I guess that really depends once I get a Blu-ray player.
Post Reply