Loss of Quality in the Platinum Editions?

[TheValentineBros]

If they keep messing up Disney's classic animated Disney classic, Disney's will be the biggest movie company to be emo!

Disney, please don't ruin those classics.

[PeterPanfan]

If they keep messing up Disney's classic animated Disney classic, Disney's will be the biggest movie company to be emo!

Disney, please don't ruin those classics.

I really do not understand what you just said, as usual.

[TheValentineBros]

If they keep messing up Disney's classic animated Disney classic, Disney's will be the biggest movie company to be emo!

Disney, please don't ruin those classics.

I really do not understand what you just said, as usual.

Okay, what I'm trying to say, "AS USUAL" is that.. well... remember the 1993 re-release of Snow White? And it had the new Soup scene?

[PeterPanfan]

I really do not understand what you just said, as usual.

Okay, what I'm trying to say, "AS USUAL" is that.. well... remember the 1993 re-release of Snow White? And it had the new Soup scene?

No...

And I'm sure the platinum has everything the 1993 re-release had.

[Chernabog_Rocks]

I think all the Platinums have their faults, well I can't really say anything about Snow White, Beauty and the Beast and the Lion King since I don't have them. However here's the things they could have done on each Platinum IMO

Cinderella:

Take out the horrible ESPN "Bonus Feature" and replace it with perhaps a short documentary about the different variations of Cinderella, and what Disney used in their film?

A Dream Is Wish Video, take it out or at least redo it One thing I noticed is there were far too many people in it for such a "short" video. I mean the Sprouse twins were useless just sitting there and mumbling along, and Raven hogged half the song so it messed things up more.


Bambi:

I actually liked a lot of the stuff on Bambi, there's not really a lot to complain about. Instead of such a big multi-level game, they could have put those deleted scenes in instead which would have improved things.


Aladdin:

I wouldn't have minded a dark ride style Game/Activity featuring the Cave of Wonders/Agrabah/The Palace instead of the Rescue Jasmine Game.

Not too much to complain about here either.....

Little Mermaid:

Like Bambi I can't find much to complain about (or at least remember) they should have kept the Priests knee, poor guy how is he supposed to walk now without a knee?

Lady and the Tramp:

See Little Mermaid and Bambi.........yeah I'm getting lazy but it's hard to compare since I haven't seen this Platinum in a while.

Peter Pan:

They should have changed Peter's Virtual Flight, it had potential if there was a better voice actor, and if they made it last longer, perhaps spent more time exploring Skull Rock, fly in close to see Hook and the Mermaids or even go to Hangmans Tree at the end.

The music video could go though I haven't dared watch it, the thought of it gives me shudders

Jungle Book:

Jonas Brothers can go, thank god their version of Poor Unfortunate Souls wasn't on Little Mermaid.

Kaa-Zen-Tration should be retitled Major-Frus-Tration.

They could have made a similar Virtual "ride" here, by having you float down the river, explore King Louies, the Wolf Den etc.


I think that covers everything...............or at least everything that comes to my mind right now

[blackcauldron85]

Little Mermaid:

Like Bambi I can't find much to complain about (or at least remember) they should have kept the Priests knee, poor guy how is he supposed to walk now without a knee?

I had my cup up to my mouth, and it's a good thing I didn't actually drink when I read that, because lemonade would be everywhere. That made me lol... That was funny!

I think that the biggest problem with the Platinum Editions (besides the B&tB and TLK sets) is that some of the bonus material is unnecessary. The problem is, what's unnecessary to one person may be exciting to another person. Collectors aren't the only people buying these DVDs- families do like them, as well. Kids like playing games, so including games on these DVDs may be a huge selling point. Disney can't only think about one consumer segment- they include some material to make the collectors happy, and some material to make the families happy. I do think, however, that they have left a lot of free space/unnecessary space on the discs that could have been used for bonus features. Including trailers and semi-relevant "Disneyland" episodes should be a cheap no-brainer to Disney. That still boggles my mind, why they don't always include vaulted materials on the discs...

We all know that we were lied to about the "Beauty and the Beast" and "The Lion King" PEs, and hopefully the next time Disney releases those films, they'll rectify the situation. I actually like "Human Again", and I watch that segment when I watch the film now, but "The Morning Report" bothers me, if for nothing else other than the new voice of Simba...it doesn't sound like him at all.

[MrIncredible]

The thing with the Platinum Editions, as with most Disney films on DVD, is that they used to be really awesome. They really had everything. Take Aladdin for example, comes with everything from a nice looking cover (with one of those slipsleeves that open up) to a nice looking and sounding transfer of the film (thanks to THX certification) to a pair of nice commentaries, an nice full-length behind the scenes documentary and finally some of those games that I don't care about but probably appeals to the kids. Now, look at The Jungle Book one, sure the cover art is good and the transfer is good (but no THX!), but the extras, like most Disney DVDs, aren't that much, a couple of featurettes that are okay (but not as great as Aladdin), a commentary that sounds like it had been ported off the laserdisc, and that's about it. Not much there. The only thing that makes it stand out for me is that I got mine from Future Shop, so it came with a neat little steelbook. So, yeah, Disney's really screwed up on a lot of their DVDs lately and the Platinum ones are no exception. Hopefully with more of Walt's classics coming in the near future (please tell me Fantasia's one of them), that we might see them start to care a little more.

[Big Disney Fan]

Hopefully with more of Walt's classics coming in the near future (please tell me Fantasia's one of them), that we might see them start to care a little more.

Well, sadly, as long as money is an object to the bigwigs running Disney nowadays, the PE DVDs will likely never be the same. It's like they say, "It's all downhill from here."

Of course, if the DVD contents of the 101 Dalmatians PE as mentioned in Amazon is any indication, then there may or may not be hope yet. They mentioned that there are eleven things in the Backstage Disney section of that DVD, so there may or may not be hope. I mean, compare that with The Jungle Book PE's seven BD bonuses (including the one on Rocky the Rhino on the first disc) or the Peter Pan PE's six, so let's keep our fingers crossed.

Another thing that puzzles me is, on the Peter Pan PE DVD review, the author claims that they could put so much content on there that a 3-discer wouldn't be out of line, but says that only two discs are allotted. My question is, is it required that they can use no more than two discs for any one movie? 'Cause if it is, then that's clearly the self-centered, budget-obsessed bigwigs talking.

[schoollover]

Here's what I wanted to say about the platinum editions.
Snow White, wow they really treated this film very nice, and gave it good a/v and bounos features. A+

Batb: This had okay bonus features and the film quality was medium. It was a great film so i'll give it a B

TLK:I loved the film and thought the a/v quality was great, but the bonus features were kind of bad so.D+

Aladdin: I loved the film and great bonus features, though not as great as Snow White . A

Bambi: I'm tired of saying how much I love the film and Describe the bonus features so ill just say love or jhate for the film, and grade the dvd.
Love, B+

Cinderella: Love,B+

LATT: Love, A-

TLM:Hate , B+

Peter Pan: Love, C

TJB: Love,C

101: Love, C

SB: Love, B+

and thats how I grade the platinums.

[Goliath]

I think you are nitpicking. Especially when it comes to Cinderella. Nothing of substance? Get out of here!

The Platinum Edition of Sleeping Beauty was amazing in its bonus materials department. Jungle Book and One Hundred and One Dalmatians were great, too. The only Platinum that disappointed me was Peter Pan, for a lack of a (new) substantial 'Making Of'.

The releases that are *really* poor, are the one discs, like Robin Hood.

[SpringHeelJack]

I think you are nitpicking. Especially when it comes to Cinderella. Nothing of substance? Get out of here!

The Platinum Edition of Sleeping Beauty was amazing in its bonus materials department. Jungle Book and One Hundred and One Dalmatians were great, too. The only Platinum that disappointed me was Peter Pan, for a lack of a (new) substantial 'Making Of'.

The releases that are *really* poor, are the one discs, like Robin Hood.

Really? "101 Dalmatians" got pretty screwed. Compare it to say, "Snow White" you'll see a definite difference.

[Goliath]

Really? "101 Dalmatians" got pretty screwed. Compare it to say, "Snow White" you'll see a definite difference.

I think the problem is the people on this thread are never satisfied anymore. So I should have said: "I think you *all* are nitpicking". I mean, I just read the reply on this page from the guy who said there were no good bonus features on the PE of Jungle Book.

Come again? It had a whole list of deleted songs; a lenghty Making-of; an audio commentary; segments about the film's influence on modern day artists; and a whole lot more. If people aren't satisfied with this kind of excellent treatment, will they *ever* be happy?

And to come back to Cinderella: what did it not have? I had a lenghty Making-Of; informative feauture about Mary Blair; lots of deleted songs; a piece on The Nine Old Men; even the original 1922 Cinderella Laugh O'Gram!

I wish all Disney films received that kind of treatment.

[Flanger-Hanger]

I think you are nitpicking. Especially when it comes to Cinderella. Nothing of substance? Get out of here!

Most are not a fan of the craptacular ESPN promo on disc one or lack of Audio Commentary or Trivia track or anything of real value on disc 1 outside of the film. Compare that to what Beauty, Snow White, Aladdin (3 separate viewing options) got and you might understand the disappointment. At least they carried over the laserdisc stuff. Read UD's review to understand the disappointment that existed even then.

The Platinum Edition of Sleeping Beauty was amazing in its bonus materials department. Jungle Book and One Hundred and One Dalmatians were great, too.

As already mention, Sleeping Beauty only got what it got thanks to the much hyped and important Blu release, which got even more stuff that the DVD. As for Dalmatians, you're in the minority for thinking it's great.

The only Platinum that disappointed me was Peter Pan, for a lack of a (new) substantial 'Making Of'.

Or Commentary, or Christmas Show or Trailers, or possibly theme park stuff. (Yay I beat Albert too it!).

The releases that are *really* poor, are the one discs, like Robin Hood.

Ya they're bad too.

[Disneykid]

Really? "101 Dalmatians" got pretty screwed. Compare it to say, "Snow White" you'll see a definite difference.

I'd say the same goes for when you compare Peter Pan to 101 Dalmatians. I consider 101 Dalmatians a great DVD set. If there's a caveat, it's that it doesn't have much that's truly special to it. All of its supplements fall under the expected check points. So if anything, call 101 Dalmatians' DVD predictable, not certainly not screwed.

And I agree that the Cinderella DVD is excellent. If Disney would've just replaced the ESPN and Livin' Like a Princess crap with a commentary track, it would've been perfect. People keep judging that set for the stupid things that are on there. I couldn't care less how much trash Disney slathers on their DVDs as long as I still get what I want in the Backstage Disney section.

[Goliath]

Most are not a fan of the craptacular ESPN promo on disc one or lack of Audio Commentary or Trivia track or anything of real value on disc 1 outside of the film. Compare that to what Beauty, Snow White, Aladdin (3 separate viewing options) got and you might understand the disappointment.

That there is nothing on disc 1 of value other than the film is, in my opinion, no reason to bitch and moan about the PE the way it's going on in this thread. Because, as I've understood it, the PE had *two* discs. And saying there isn't anything of value on disc 2 is quite a stretch, to put it mildly.

As already mention, Sleeping Beauty only got what it got thanks to the much hyped and important Blu release, which got even more stuff that the DVD.

Who cares what the reason is? The bonus features are there; that's what counts.

As for Dalmatians, you're in the minority for thinking it's great.

That doesn't mean it isn't true.

[Flanger-Hanger]

Really? "101 Dalmatians" got pretty screwed. Compare it to say, "Snow White" you'll see a definite difference.

I think the problem is the people on this thread are never satisfied anymore.

Or you just have low standards or are not aware of what Disney used to do for their DVDs. Never mind the Platinums, look at Atlantis, Emperor's New Groove, Tarzan's old set, Fantasia Anthology, The Toy Story Toy Box, The Vault Disney editions, Tron's 20th Anniversary set etc.

And to come back to Cinderella: what did it not have?

Commentaryies, Trivia Tracks, stuff some would expect to be included on a much beloved and sought after title. Don't get me stared on the lack of theme park stuff for that set, the possibilities were certainly there.

[Goliath]

Or you just have low standards or are not aware of what Disney used to do for their DVDs.

No.

Don't get me stared on the lack of theme park stuff for that set, the possibilities were certainly there.

See, this is what I mean. The PE has tons of informative Behind the Scenes features that any fan of the movie would be thrilled about, yet you find something completely trivial to complain about.

[Flanger-Hanger]

Or you just have low standards or are not aware of what Disney used to do for their DVDs.

No.

Wait, wait... *sequels* got 2-disc treatments and Oliver didn't?

I'm glad I'm talking to the expert on Disney DVD history.

Don't get me stared on the lack of theme park stuff for that set, the possibilities were certainly there.

See, this is what I mean. The PE has tons of informative Behind the Scenes features that any fan of the movie would be thrilled about, yet you find something completely trivial to complain about.

After pointing out the mission obvious stuff that others have complained about in the past. Disc 2 was good, but saying the set as a whole was on par with Snow White is ridiculous. UD at the time of it's released called it the most disappointing Platinum. A good set? yes and one I'm glad to have, but still not as good as it could have been.

[Goliath]

Wait, wait... *sequels* got 2-disc treatments and Oliver didn't?

I'm glad I'm talking to the expert on Disney DVD history.

I don't know what happened to you today to get you into such a hateful mood, but don't take it out on other people online, okay?

See, this is what I mean. The PE has tons of informative Behind the Scenes features that any fan of the movie would be thrilled about, yet you find something completely trivial to complain about.

After pointing out the mission obvious stuff that others have complained about in the past.

Yes, you've already said that. It's not a reason to overlook what *is* on the PE.

Disc 2 was good, but saying the set as a whole was on par with Snow White is ridiculous.

I never said that.

UD at the time of it's released called it the most disappointing Platinum.

UD is not without its faults, and is certainly not sacred.

A good set? yes and one I'm glad to have, but still not as good as it could have been.

*Nothing* is ever as good as it can be, because everything can always be improved...

[ajmrowland]

First, I'd like to say that most of the PE's, I think are good, even if most of them lack the total awesomeness of the earlier releases.

Second, am I the only one who sees a pattern emerging? When Snow White was released on DVD in 2001, DVD had not been in the mainstream market long enough for mass adoption. Disney saw the format as the future of Home entertainment, and decided to get people into buying DVDs by busting up the bullet points on the back cover. When DVD was officially mainstreamed, however, they saw that nobody was using the bonus features, and decided to cut back on them.

Now the SB PE is perhaps the most impressive one since Aladdin, IMO. Surprisingly, the Blu-exclusive features are few, but it seems that Disney is maximizing value once again with a new format on the rise. Coincidink? I think not.
While many will complain about them trying to force blu-ray into your home, I, as a blu adopter, can only say that exaggerations in the advertising are minimal. They are there, but not quite as one'd expect. That aside, I can see Blu going roughly the same way with features as DVD seems to be. I won't pretend that the PE's will always be the ultimate editions from now on, but I predict that at least through 2010/11, they will be satisfactory.

Boy, that's a lot of typing.