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I still remember the theme songs of those shows.
I also remember the Disney Afternoon theme song but it change lthe song like every year.
Well, when I went to Disney World in 1992, they had this 'Disney Afternoon' stage show in Mickey's Starland... and my dad taped it. *cough* Actually, now that I look back, he taped quite a lot back then (It's a Small World, Journey into Imagination, and more)...

Anyway, it is fun to watch.

I remember when Disneyland had the Disney Afternoon in Mickey Toontown in 1993. Also in the Fantasy Theatre they had a show of the Disney Afternoon characters. Chip, Dale, Baloo and Lauchpad were there.
It was fun for anyone childhood to remember that.
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Son of the Morning wrote: Well, when I went to Disney World in 1992, they had this 'Disney Afternoon' stage show in Mickey's Starland... and my dad taped it.
I was there for that too... Tale Spin, Darkwing Duck, Chip & Dale, Mickey & Friends, etc. It was great. My dad also taped it, lol.

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Just for kicks, I emailed Disney about DW. Disney responded as follows:

We apologize for the delayed response. We try to reply promptly to all
inquires. However, given the high volume of mail we receive, sometimes
our response can be delayed.

A DVD release of the DARKWING DUCK Series has not been scheduled. Each
month, the Disney Channel program schedule for that month can be found
at:
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This sucks.

Even if the Disney Channel isn't currently airing Darkwing Duck, etc, I suspect Disney wants to hold the Disney Afternoon shows "in reserve" for their channels, in case they need 'em to fill in programming holes in the future. So no DVDs for us. Probably not for years. Damn it.
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Darkwing duck/rescue rangers/tail spin/bonkers and most other ones are showing on toondisney. I have the channel. they show (not much) but a few old ones. :) I was shocked really. I thought they would take them down by now, but the only old one I REALLY watched they took down was The adventures of sonic the hedgehog. they used to show that at 7:00 AM and I used to get up and watch it. :D
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I don't have the Disney Channel anymore. :cry:

I used to watch Sonic the hedgehog, too! I don't remember too much about it now, but I liked it for some reason!

I also liked Felix the Cat. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Well really, instead of making all the movie sequels, Disney should move in to making DTV's of their cartoon series.

I'd love a Bonkers DTV - they could always show some "classic" Disney characters in there. A proper "all new" House of Mouse DVD wouldn't hurt either (instead of the previous 2 which recycle the cartoon inserts from the show and Mouseworks).

Seems to be a win-win situation - money for Disney, no sequels for those who hate them, and nostalgia for the current 20-30 somthings who grew-up with the cartoons on television and now have families of their own.

Still, while people assumed the original Spider-Man cartoons would be released on DVD when the "restoration" was announced, I bet nobody thought we would get a complete six-disc set. Heck, I just thought we'd get more "bonus episodes" on the 90's Animated Series DVDs.

Spider-Man is Disney's first release of a complete set of an animated (well, it claims to be animated :)) cartoon property - true it's not really one of their own, and it's not really one people have been gagging for. But "baby steps" and all that. Season sets of Disney cartoons could be coming in the next 1-2 years if Spider-Man does well.

Now, I believe that currently there are 52 episodes of House of Mouse, so lets assume Disney stop at the magical 65 episodes (if they haven't infact stopped now).

65 x 20 = 1300 minutes or about 22 hours (rounding up)

allowing for supplements this could be released on a seven or eight disc set. Come on Disney, how about it?
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I don't have Toon Disney so I can't watch my favorite shows.
I like Ducktails, Darkwing, Chip'n' Dale Rescue Rangers, Talespin, Aladdin, Gooftroop and Gargoyes.
I have some epiodes on tape but not all of them.
Why can't they just relase them on DVD already! :cry:
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For me the original disney afternoon was the best {for those who remember it actually started as the disney hour, than became the disney afternoon.}

In NY ducktales premiered on Fox at first and then switched WPIX not too long after.

Gummie Bears was the start and to me Ducktales and Chip N' Dale represented the peak of the disney afternoon. Talespin was good, but a little bit of a step down in terms of interest. Darkwing duck was when disney slowly started to slack of on the animation and detail levels and it slowly went down from there in terms of quality product.

Goof troop to me was the last show that i could really sit through.

I thought bonkers was horrible and everything after that seemed really "forced" like it was an "obvious marketing ploy" or forced onto tv.

I know a lot of people who liked Gargoyles but it never appealed to me. It just wasn't exceptionally unique to me. Take elements from the batman series, combine it with transformers/ real ghostbusters team concept and bang you have a show.

As for the series i'd buy, i'd say gummies through gooftroop.

Personally i already have the entire ducktales series on my computer {with movie} and it took me 6 months to get all of it off {cough} kazaa {cough}.

I'm not a huge fan of toon disney except when they show older stuff or house of mouse. to me a lot of the newer cartoons are slapped together real quickly and they just dont look or have that disney "quality" feel to them.

animation used to be about design, now it just seems many animated cartoons feature artists who either cant draw or dummy it down in an effort to save time.

Animation {in my eyes} had a real resurgance in the mid 80's through the mid 90's but then went back to it's lazy ways of the 70's {where a tree constitues a background}.

off topic a little, many children of the 80's should know this a big year for 80's cartoons on dvd. inspector gadget, heathcliff and ninja turtles are official. batman comes out in the summer (box sets in sequential order}, tiny toons, garfield, animaniacs are all on the drawing board and real ghostbusters is being rumored to be in negotiations.

if 2004 sells, it's gonna open the door to a lot of other series.

so crappy shows have been bough on dvd but studios have been reluctant about animated series, if they sell this year many more studio will be willing to take the risk.
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I know a lot of people who liked Gargoyles but it never appealed to me. It just wasn't exceptionally unique to me. Take elements from the batman series, combine it with transformers/ real ghostbusters team concept and bang you have a show.
I really enjoyed Gargoyles it was Disney best Animated Series.
How about Aladdin or Quack Pack.
They were also ok. :wink:
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nah never really did it for me. i think ducktales really took their weekly animation to a new level.

gargoyles to me took a lot of ideas from a lot of different areas and for me it was too obvious. it LOOKED like disney was trying to repond to the batman and xmen and other series directly.

as for gargoyles it almost seems to get a strong response one way or the other. people either love it or they don't.....
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Its been a long time since i have posted a message but im back and i loved the tailspin and aladdin series. I miss the disney afternoon. I have 8 vhs volumes of tailspin i purchased which i watch periodically but its not even close to the number of episodes that exist.

I also taped the majority of the aladdin series from tv so i can watch those whenever i want. I dont get toondisney so i have to survive with what i have on tape for now till they decide hopefully in the near future to release them to dvd along with all the other afternoon series. We can only hope that they will be released in the near future.
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Edge wrote:animation used to be about design, now it just seems many animated cartoons feature artists who either cant draw or dummy it down in an effort to save time.

Animation {in my eyes} had a real resurgance in the mid 80's through the mid 90's but then went back to it's lazy ways of the 70's {where a tree constitues a background}.
I think that's a little unfair. Look at animation in the 60's - especially the limited animation of Hanna Barbera. The Flitstones was a prime-time series, but the animation is not that much more advanced than the (deliberately) poor cut-out look of South Park. And wait until you see the animation on the '67 Spider-Man set - you're lucky if a mouth moves!

Even in the 70's, when animation improved, it was still far from the quality of television animation today.

We live in a good time for tv animation - we have shows like The Powerpuff Girls, which, while limited, does have amazing visual styling, shows like The Wild Thornberrys which, despite the odd character designs putting some people off, does have quite impressive animation, and even the new What's New Scooby Doo? blows away the animation of older Scooby Doo episodes.

While none of the television animation of today compares with a Disney Feature animation movie, it is vastly superior to any creditable television animation before it (ignoring crap like Ultimate Muscle). And in my mind this is one of the reasons traditional animated movies have suffered - Disney until the mid 80's didn't really have any televised competition, but now anyone can turn the television on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and see adaquate animation - and to the average person on the street what we see as adequate, they see as good. If people blame the handful of DTVs so much, the influence of constant television cartoons must be many times greater.
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I think they shoudl release Dinosaurs! That shwow rocks!
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I think that's a little unfair. Look at animation in the 60's - especially the limited animation of Hanna Barbera. The Flitstones was a prime-time series, but the animation is not that much more advanced than the (deliberately) poor cut-out look of South Park. And wait until you see the animation on the '67 Spider-Man set - you're lucky if a mouth moves!
Actually you kinda hit on a point i failed to mention. To me the 60's and 70's were an era when animation seemed to go down, from its peak in the 40's and 50's. To me we are in a similar era. I dont even count south park as animation {besides the majority of it is past on computers now anyway}. And the '67 spiderman series was nearly 40 years ago, i'd hope to heaven we've come somewhere from there. But at the same time you can see the effort isnt there on a lot of shows. compare say lilo and stitch or recess to ducktales or talespin. take extreme ghostbusters and compare it to the real ghostbusters, etc. The vast majority of it has been simplified for artists.
Even in the 70's, when animation improved, it was still far from the quality of television animation today.

We live in a good time for tv animation - we have shows like The Powerpuff Girls, which, while limited, does have amazing visual styling, shows like The Wild Thornberrys which, despite the odd character designs putting some people off, does have quite impressive animation, and even the new What's New Scooby Doo? blows away the animation of older Scooby Doo episodes.
to me that is a matter of taste. the image looking crisp is more a reflection of technology and a lack of aging on the film, more so that actual hand drawn style. the power puff girls to me is exactly the style of todays animation i cant stand. very angled, very shapely. essentially the style is easily drawn because its kinda like connecting a bunch of shapes together. i had a family friend who is an artist who used to work over at warner brothers and he said the biggest problem they started having is many of todays artists really cant draw anymore. they are used to computers and other tools covering up their mistakes and which push comes to shove they have a very difficult time time copying a style guide. power puff girls, many of todays shows are very simplified to reflect that. many scenes are used several times with varying backgrounds. many designs are simple "connect this shape to that one" so that EVERY episode looks the same. there very angled because an increasing number of artists are seriously struggling to do circles. heck even the simpsons nowadays is primarily done on computers to make sure the drawings are rounded, a lot of their newer artists simply cannot draw the style anymore.
While none of the television animation of today compares with a Disney Feature animation movie, it is vastly superior to any creditable television animation before it (ignoring crap like Ultimate Muscle). And in my mind this is one of the reasons traditional animated movies have suffered - Disney until the mid 80's didn't really have any televised competition, but now anyone can turn the television on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and see adaquate animation - and to the average person on the street what we see as adequate, they see as good. If people blame the handful of DTVs so much, the influence of constant television cartoons must be many times greater.
For me TV is much like music. people will consume WHATEVER you put out there. it doesnt matter if it all looks the same, sounds the same or sucks altogether.people are gonna buy it and love it and defend it. for my money the best animation in the world right now is coming out of japan. i am not an anime fan by any stretch but their blend of animation and computers is second to none. the reason the u.s. hasnt switched over to it? too much money. thus you're gonna get more recess and more invader zim and more animation that looks increasingly like someone's sketch pads and less like a finished product.

a simple test is this, take a look at the backgrounds. take a look at the realism of say ducktales season one and then compare it to even darkwing duck. take a look at launchpad and you can see which one took longer to draw.

it comes in spurts much like music. there are era's where much more effort is put into product and there are era's when if you've seen one you've seen most.

i tend to think when you hold shows side by side it becomes more apparent and if you can ran the numbers on cost/time spent and number of frames of most tv cartoons you'll see that each of those categories have steadily declined in recent years. it probably peaked in the 80's with shows like the muppet babies, ducktales and a few others, and it's steadily gone down since. saturday morning cartoons are almost unheard of since 1995 and many of today's saturday morning cartoons are simply shows that were run during the week anyway.

looking at the numbers now compared to 20 years ago also supports this argument. channels like toon disney have made a fortune off slapping together fast cartoons and marketing the heck out of them. Really what choice do viewers have? if you dont like what is playing on toon disney where else you gonna turn? cartoon network? there's few syndicated shows, little or no saturday competition and tough cartoon making is easier than ever, there are fewer people making quality cartoons.

think about all your options you had to watch on saturday morning 1991. now compare it to 2004. which generation had the most options and as a result of that competition that better programming. it's not to say that everything out today is crap, the goods are just a lot fewer and farther between. when a show couldnt beat out another show for ratings it was replaced with something better {in theory} but who is toon disney competing against? cbs, nbc and abc run news programs or talk shows now. heck abc is owned by disney which knocks them out of the running. that leaves two channels for the most part and if you don't have cable you can rub them out of the equation too. when someone isnt pressed to get better, they get lazy. happens in any industry, any where. from animation to wrestling, competition makes the product better. there is no competition right now and the product reflects that.
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I think that's a little unfair. Look at animation in the 60's - especially the limited animation of Hanna Barbera. The Flitstones was a prime-time series, but the animation is not that much more advanced than the (deliberately) poor cut-out look of South Park. And wait until you see the animation on the '67 Spider-Man set - you're lucky if a mouth moves!
Actually you kinda hit on a point i failed to mention. To me the 60's and 70's were an era when animation seemed to go down, from its peak in the 40's and 50's. To me we are in a similar era. I dont even count south park as animation {besides the majority of it is past on computers now anyway}. And the '67 spiderman series was nearly 40 years ago, i'd hope to heaven we've come somewhere from there. But at the same time you can see the effort isnt there on a lot of shows. compare say lilo and stitch or recess to ducktales or talespin. take extreme ghostbusters and compare it to the real ghostbusters, etc. The vast majority of it has been simplified for artists.
Even in the 70's, when animation improved, it was still far from the quality of television animation today.

We live in a good time for tv animation - we have shows like The Powerpuff Girls, which, while limited, does have amazing visual styling, shows like The Wild Thornberrys which, despite the odd character designs putting some people off, does have quite impressive animation, and even the new What's New Scooby Doo? blows away the animation of older Scooby Doo episodes.
to me that is a matter of taste. the image looking crisp is more a reflection of technology and a lack of aging on the film, more so that actual hand drawn style. the power puff girls to me is exactly the style of todays animation i cant stand. very angled, very shapely. essentially the style is easily drawn because its kinda like connecting a bunch of shapes together. i had a family friend who is an artist who used to work over at warner brothers and he said the biggest problem they started having is many of todays artists really cant draw anymore. they are used to computers and other tools covering up their mistakes and which push comes to shove they have a very difficult time time copying a style guide. power puff girls, many of todays shows are very simplified to reflect that. many scenes are used several times with varying backgrounds. many designs are simple "connect this shape to that one" so that EVERY episode looks the same. there very angled because an increasing number of artists are seriously struggling to do circles. heck even the simpsons nowadays is primarily done on computers to make sure the drawings are rounded, a lot of their newer artists simply cannot draw the style anymore.
While none of the television animation of today compares with a Disney Feature animation movie, it is vastly superior to any creditable television animation before it (ignoring crap like Ultimate Muscle). And in my mind this is one of the reasons traditional animated movies have suffered - Disney until the mid 80's didn't really have any televised competition, but now anyone can turn the television on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and see adaquate animation - and to the average person on the street what we see as adequate, they see as good. If people blame the handful of DTVs so much, the influence of constant television cartoons must be many times greater.
For me TV is much like music. people will consume WHATEVER you put out there. it doesnt matter if it all looks the same, sounds the same or sucks altogether.people are gonna buy it and love it and defend it. for my money the best animation in the world right now is coming out of japan. i am not an anime fan by any stretch but their blend of animation and computers is second to none. the reason the u.s. hasnt switched over to it? too much money. thus you're gonna get more recess and more invader zim and more animation that looks increasingly like someone's sketch pads and less like a finished product.

a simple test is this, take a look at the backgrounds. take a look at the realism of say ducktales season one and then compare it to even darkwing duck. take a look at launchpad and you can see which one took longer to draw.

it comes in spurts much like music. there are era's where much more effort is put into product and there are era's when if you've seen one you've seen most.

i tend to think when you hold shows side by side it becomes more apparent and if you can ran the numbers on cost/time spent and number of frames of most tv cartoons you'll see that each of those categories have steadily declined in recent years. it probably peaked in the 80's with shows like the muppet babies, ducktales and a few others, and it's steadily gone down since. saturday morning cartoons are almost unheard of since 1995 and many of today's saturday morning cartoons are simply shows that were run during the week anyway.

looking at the numbers now compared to 20 years ago also supports this argument. channels like toon disney have made a fortune off slapping together fast cartoons and marketing the heck out of them. Really what choice do viewers have? if you dont like what is playing on toon disney where else you gonna turn? cartoon network? there's few syndicated shows, little or no saturday competition and tough cartoon making is easier than ever, there are fewer people making quality cartoons.

think about all your options you had to watch on saturday morning 1991. now compare it to 2004. which generation had the most options and as a result of that competition that better programming. it's not to say that everything out today is crap, the goods are just a lot fewer and farther between. when a show couldnt beat out another show for ratings it was replaced with something better {in theory} but who is toon disney competing against? cbs, nbc and abc run news programs or talk shows now. heck abc is owned by disney which knocks them out of the running. that leaves two channels for the most part and if you don't have cable you can rub them out of the equation too. when someone isnt pressed to get better, they get lazy. happens in any industry, any where. from animation to wrestling, competition makes the product better. there is no competition right now and the product reflects that.
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Well, animation in the 50's and 60's was poor for a reason. Hanna Barbera went from expensively produced MGM cartoons to limited animation cheap TV cartoons.

I do see what you are saying about The PowerPuff Girls, but I think it strikes a good balance between stylistic design and ease to draw and animate. If you watch the Powerpuff Girls movie, some of the shots (with a bigger budget but the same basic designs) do look stunning. After all, Picasso is credited with being a good painter.

The majority of designs have been simplified recently, I won't deny. But some of the simplified design's work very well. Plus, the Rugrats and Wild Thornberry cartoons are very well animated and have somewhat unorthodox designs. I'm not too keen on them myself, but the design doesn't stop me recognising the animation quality.

Really, we have to remember that 90% of anything is crap. It's a general rule to live life by. There's more animation now, so there's more crap. Plain and simple. But I think the 10% that isn't crap, still stands head and shoulders above the same 10% from the 70's and 80's.
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I would buy sets of:
--Ducktales
--Chip n' Dale Rescue Rangers
--Aladdin
--Hercules
--Tarzan

I recently discovered Aladdin, Hercules & Gargoyles while staying at Disney. Every night of my 2 week stay would end watching those shows. I had never really payed much attention to Aladdin, Hercules, or Tarzan. I mostly thought they were a rip off of the show. I was wrong!
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I personally would love to see all of these great shows from the Disney afternoon shows released to DVD, I already have the majority of them on VCD but the quality and luster is not there. And I would willing purchase any and all of the shows Disney puts out on DVD. My VCD's are good enought to get me by for a little longer but I really can't wait to throw them out and replace them with a collection of DVD's!!!!!! I would also like to see disney release some of it's Disney Channel Original series to DVD; like Mousterpeice Theater, Mouse Works, Dumbo's Circus(one of my personal favorites) Mousercise, Danger Bay, and the list could go on forever. I would also like to see some more of there classic shows come out. My Davy Crocket Treasure Tin is still by far my favrite DVD set. I hope that a region one DVD release of Zorro is not to far off. I would also love to see all of the epsiodes of Walt's Wonderful world of Disney released in a set. I know that some of these really are not very likely releases. But I think that Disney should start a different approach on DVD releases of some of the things that would not sell as well, rather than mass producing alot of DVD's that might not sell real well, I think that they should do what they need to get there shows and movies preserved in a digital format because we all know this needs to be done in order to preserve what they have. And as they get these preserved in a digital format then they could make them available as a special order. Which I know this would up the costs to those of us who collect disney DVD's but atleast they would be available. I personally think this would be a good way for them to pay for the digital restoration and preservation of there library. But of course this is just a thought and don't know if it is really something practical or not. But if it is then I hope that they eventually do something like this.
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I agree 2099 net and it's not that I believe everything out there is crap it just seems the bar isnt as high as it used to. a lot of today's shows just seem to be lacking something. I guess from my end i can sum it up like this.

Animation is like baseball. The best players still only hit the ball about 33% of the time and they make more outs than they do hits.

However they also hit some homeruns and bring people out of their seats. To me a lot of animation today just tries to play it safe. They arent trying for the homerun, they are content with the single or the double. That isn't bad per say, it just feels like it is missing something.

The 80's were a decade of a lot of crap, but it was also a decade of a lot of risk. It's easy to forget how innovative shows like Muppet Babies were. How risky daytime TV like Ducktales was for a disney company that had only restarted to grow again and how hard it was to turn a blockbuster movie into a blockbuster cartoon {ghostbusters}. Garfield and Friends and Tiny Toons added an element of some old school cartooning.

Today it really seems like no one is willing to branch into that new territory and why should they? Who are they competing against?

Again it's just my opinion, not some God granted law. That's one reason i really liked lilo and stitch the movie. it wasn't afraid to be gross and it's probably the first disney movie since i was a kid that actually made me laugh out loud. it took a risk and like most disney films it was underappreciated in its time but will probably go down as a favorite someday.
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