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Disney Duster wrote:Oh, and Magic Mirror, yea, on model is the correct term, here's a link or two that care to agree, so you don't have to put that term in quotes since it's not opinion but fact that the characters in Tenggren's poster do not match the model sheets of the final, finished film.

And if you just put that in quotes because you were quoting me, well oopsiemybad.
Apologies, I didn't mean it in any offensive way. I put it in quotations, partly because I wasn't sure if it was the correct term (I wasn't sure whether or not there was a hyphen - now I know!) and partly because I really don't think many of the newer posters or covers are any more on-model - most make the characters seem quite blobby and deformed.


I really, REALLY like that 'Beauty and the Beast' poster with the rose. Absolutely beautiful. I would love to see covers like that for every film. The one with the beast's head in the clouds is dreadfully naff, though.
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MagicMirror wrote:Those covers are great, though I would have preferred that the posters themselves be used as wraparounds rather than placed inside a new frame.
I agree!

Out of all the posters MagicMirror posted, the only one I can kind of see being used is the "Fantasia" one only featuring Mickey...I wouldn't want the psychedelic poster on a DVD...that's just weird!

And, I personally love the "kiddie" posters...I like colorful things and seeing a bunch of characters together- but I guess I'm in the minority!
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UmbrellaFish wrote:Anyway, if I remember correctly, that rose is on the US Platinum. It's in the lower-left hand corner, correct?
Yes, I believe you are correct, actually! Which is why I don't get how you thought you were incorrect if you looked at it, making me think somehow, you didn't find the correct US Platinum Edition cover. Because, unless I'm mistaken, that rose, perhaps changed slightly, is on the cover, or so says this picture.

Magic Mirror, well, I'm going to say that I thought you were really smart from all I have seen you write on this forum, you even used a term like naff, so I thought you must have heard of on model before. I admit, I did use the hyphen before I figured out precisely what the term meant (I vaguely knew it just meant the characters didn't look right).

You do have a point that the characters on current covers aren't always on model, but I would say they are definately attempted to be, and the artists are looking at the characters in the film when they draw them, which may not be the case or Tenggren, who was deliberately using his own style.

Anyway, that Beauty and the Beast poster on the right is pretty bad, but I do like the idea of the beast in the clouds over the castle, which came before Mufassa's try at it.

Blackcauldron, I too, like those covers! Colorful is good, and I like covers that fit in the most images, so I have lots to look at (so I love The Little Mermaid's "busy" Platinum Edition cover).
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Disney Duster wrote:Magic Mirror, well, I'm going to say that I thought you were really smart from all I have seen you write on this forum, you even used a term like naff
Wow! So all I have to do is throw around some British terms and I'll be smart! :P :lol:

Bovvered, naff, shag, beatle...um...unflushable...sock gap...giggle loop...emotional vegetarian...? I guess I got into "Coupling" territory, as always...

Anyway, to get on the topic of cover art, I absolutely love the Beauty and the Beast one with the Beast and Belle in the rose. They used it on the slipcover for the SE soundtrack in 2002, and I *gasp* actually keep the slipcover on the case because I love it that much. I would have preferred that artwork be on the cover of Beauty and the Beast rather than the one we got.

Usually I don't give cover art that much "pull" on whether or not I want to buy a movie, but it often helps. I likely never would have picked up a blindbuy like Laura, had it not been for the interesting cover art (which goes against the Disney Duster School of Cover Arts, as it repeats a theatrical poster). It's since become one of my favorite films.

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In my opinion that Snow White 70th Anniversary poster is a dreadful image ghastly and just awful! The colors are nice enough but the artwork recalls not so much Tenggren as some hideous poster produced in the 1980's with in my opinion some of the worst ugliest versions of all the characters!
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And 271286 brings up that Beauty and the Beast poster that almost makes no sense. Once again in proves the sophisticated "collector" artwork insists throwing the characters in shadow is more grown-up, somehow. (..) And I'm serious here, I think those are posters only previewing the film, discuss it with me.
I chose to use the "preview posters as you call them" simply because it was meant to be used for a collectors ony - adult release and therefore I dont think the kiddie-posters would fit well...

I'd choose the artsy poster any day... Also when It comes to older classics... (Not that they all have artistic posters... Most of the older classics only have the character artwork posters...

BTW I for one think the "preview posters should be considered theatrical posters just like the "kiddie-artwork" posters... The reason why many of the 90's classics had both an artistic and character-artwork poster is IMO becuase they much more than the previous classics appeal to both adults and children, so they produced posters to attract both audiences...



Disney Duster wrote:Now, Beauty and the Beast had a re-release, but I know both those posters came out duing it's debut, so I'd say the first one is a mere sneak peek at the film to come. Same case with Aladdin, which had no re-release so those two posters definately came out during the same run.

Not only is it beautiful, and cleverly uses the Enchanted rose which is so essential and symbolic in the film, but it is very artistic and creative. Notice how the Beast's silhouette is formed by the dark, imposing shadows, which perfectly represents his dark personality and dark situation, while a red/pink rose petal forms Belle's silhouette, representing her delicacy, her beauty, and the life and vitality she brings to the Beast. She is the warm bright light that saves him from the cold dark shadows.

Covering all the characters in shadows doesn't do that.

If anything, putting the characters in the dark would make the most sense for Cinderella, since she and the prince met and fell in love in the dark, and probably for a reason (it turns them blue, a color that represents the calm and good specifically in the movie, if you'd notice what characters wear blue and when).
WOW! I never noticed the silluettes in the 2002 poster... That is clever... Are you sure the "2002" poster was actually made for the original release?

I still like the BaTB cover that is as you call it "covered in shadow"... I think it fits the movie very well... It shows the dance which is one of the signature scenes in the movie... Making the room disappear in shadows and focusing on the dancing couple only makes it more romantic IMO... Sombolizing that they are in their own lottle world...
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Disney Duster wrote:
And 271286 brings up that Beauty and the Beast poster that almost makes no sense. Once again in proves the sophisticated "collector" artwork insists throwing the characters in shadow is more grown-up, somehow. (..) And I'm serious here, I think those are posters only previewing the film, discuss it with me.
I chose to use the "preview posters as you call them" simply because it was meant to be used for a collectors ony - adult release and therefore I dont think the kiddie-posters would fit well...

I'd choose the artsy poster any day... Also when It comes to older classics... (Not that they all have artistic posters... Most of the older classics only have the character artwork posters...

BTW I for one think the "preview posters should be considered theatrical posters just like the "kiddie-artwork" posters... The reason why many of the 90's classics had both an artistic and character-artwork poster is IMO becuase they much more than the previous classics appeal to both adults and children, so they produced posters to attract both audiences...



Disney Duster wrote:Now, Beauty and the Beast had a re-release, but I know both those posters came out duing it's debut, so I'd say the first one is a mere sneak peek at the film to come. Same case with Aladdin, which had no re-release so those two posters definately came out during the same run.

Not only is it beautiful, and cleverly uses the Enchanted rose which is so essential and symbolic in the film, but it is very artistic and creative. Notice how the Beast's silhouette is formed by the dark, imposing shadows, which perfectly represents his dark personality and dark situation, while a red/pink rose petal forms Belle's silhouette, representing her delicacy, her beauty, and the life and vitality she brings to the Beast. She is the warm bright light that saves him from the cold dark shadows.

Covering all the characters in shadows doesn't do that.

If anything, putting the characters in the dark would make the most sense for Cinderella, since she and the prince met and fell in love in the dark, and probably for a reason (it turns them blue, a color that represents the calm and good specifically in the movie, if you'd notice what characters wear blue and when).
WOW! I never noticed the silluettes in the 2002 poster... That is clever... Are you sure the "2002" poster was actually made for the original release?

I still like the BaTB cover that is as you call it "covered in shadow"... I think it fits the movie very well... It shows the dance which is one of the signature scenes in the movie... Making the room disappear in shadows and focusing on the dancing couple only makes it more romantic IMO... Sombolizing that they are in their own lottle world...
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blackcauldron85 wrote:And, I personally love the "kiddie" posters...I like colorful things and seeing a bunch of characters together- but I guess I'm in the minority!
I feel that way too. The French cover art looks beautiful, but so does ours. :D
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271286 wrote:I'd choose the artsy poster any day... Also when It comes to older classics... (Not that they all have artistic posters... Most of the older classics only have the character artwork posters...)
I guess even what is more artful is an opinion, just like whether a piece of art is good. Well, I'd say if not all the Disney posters were artsy, they were creative and most of them good-looking.

I see why you picked those covers. In your opinion they are artsier, I'd say they're just more aesthetic and less annoying to adults than the kiddie posters. Also, when collectors buy them, they won't feel bad because the characters won't be smiling or be obvious, shining brightly screaming "this is a carton!" No, the people scanning the DVD will have to squint and look closely to see what the heck those two figures in the dark are.

I'm teasing, I agree that first Beauty and the Beast poster is more artistic and much less of an eyesore than the latter, but after seeing that poster and a whole bunch of equally dark Aladdin ones, I realized that Disney is either using them to pique interest without actually showing what the characters look like, because you can't see them, or they just cover the characters in shadow because people will think it's artsy.

I agree the original poster makes it look like Belle and the Beast are in their own little world, but shouldn't they're love be the brightness in the dark, not the other way around? And so it doesn't make sense, and the rose poster took much more thought and artsyness. At least you agree that's artsy.
271286 wrote:The reason why many of the 90's classics had both an artistic and character-artwork poster is IMO becuase they much more than the previous classics appeal to both adults and children, so they produced posters to attract both audiences...
Well, um, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, the first, was intended for both audiences, and if it wasn't loved by both kids and adults, it wouldn't have made it so big, the highest grossing movie for a while and what some critics called the best motion picture of all time. And I would think Disney would have continued with that same intention to make his movies for both audiences, and he was often quoted as having that intention. The Oscars finally realizing Disney was good enough for them around Beauty and the Beast only means they were slow, and Walt got 7 Oscars for Snow White, anyway.

Oh, and I edited my post of the rose cover. You're right, it's the 2002 re-release.
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i love the old poster for Snow White even though some of the characters are a bit off model. they recreated this poster for the disneyland ride

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i think its a good idea to update that original poster for the DVD cover because out of all the posters i think that has the best composition.
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I really like the other countries's DVD covers better :(

I hope they use the original,which was pretty,or an old theatrical poster.
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What will the Snow White DVD/Blu Ray extras be ?

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I am really looking forward to the next outing for Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs on DVD /Blu Ray - I'm wondering wen the next release date will be and what the extras will be - one should be a Deluxe Edition complete with the fabulous Pierre Lambert Blanche Neige book in an English translation!
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I am looking forward to the new Platinum edition of Snow White :) I am not sure what the bonus stuff will be like. I was watching some of the bonus stuff on the Snow White Platinum edition that I allready have and I am curious if the old Platinum edition will be a lot like the old one :)
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We've no idea about anything about this Platinum, really. We don't know what bonus features it will have, and we're confused about the date. It was supposed to be re-released after the last Platinum, but rumors have been going on the it'll be released next year. So, it's utterly confusing.

I just hope the features will be as good as the 2001 release. I missed out on it, and with the current condition of Disney DVD, it's likely to be worse.

In short, we won't know anything until the last Platinum is released, and as Pinocchio seems slated for Spring 2009 and Fantasia Fall 2009, we will hopefully know on the first Tuesday of October in 2009.
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[quote="UmbrellaFish"]

I just hope the features will be as good as the 2001 release. I missed out on it, and with the current condition of Disney DVD, it's likely to be worse.
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UmbrellaFish wrote:I just hope the features will be as good as the 2001 release. I missed out on it, and with the current condition of Disney DVD, it's likely to be worse.
You can still purchase the 2001 Snow White dvd edition online from people who have it. I just purchased the 2 disc factory sealed "The emporer's new groove" edition from a seller on amazon for a pretty good price. This 2 disc edition has been out of print of a while I believe. The Snow White dvd can be a little high especially if it's factory sealed, but if you look around all the time you might can get a good deal.

But it's a good idea to be careful when buying stuff from these sellers as they are not really amazon, but selling stuff through amazon. One thing I do is when I am looking to purchase something from one of these sellers is I checked their feedback. If I see other buyers leaving good feedback that is a good sign.
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I wouldn't mind seeing a book with a collection of the illustrations by Gustaf Tenggren, some concept art in general, and the orginal comc book based on the movie and published about the same time the feature was released. This wouldn't exactly be a bonus, but a book released at the same time the DVD becomes available.
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Well, The Lion King was said to be "the King of DVD", and it sucked.

Too many menu games, and the transfer was crap and discolored.

Why can't they just re-release the 2001 DVD? That looked fine to me... and I guess the new one will have more menu games, a worse transfer, and less stuff anyone actually cares about.
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Unless they add new games, the next release will probably be a lot like, if not the same as the 2001 release. They might do a new transfer though for Blu-ray.

If you are looking to find Snow White you can aways check out Gamestop. I found it a few years ago for $16.99. It was complete with all inserts, and the discs looked new. I guess whoever traded it in took care of their DVDs.
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drfsupercenter wrote:Well, The Lion King was said to be "the King of DVD", and it sucked.

Too many menu games, and the transfer was crap and discolored.
If it included the original 1994 theatrical version (with a better-looking transfer) instead of the 2002 IMAX version, and if trailers and TV spots were included as special features, THEN it would have been "the King of DVD".
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