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Missing Family in the Animated Classics

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Has this been brought up before? For whatever reason, I happened to think about it today. I notice it's a pattern. Either a family member, parent or such, is missing or gone when the movie starts, or dies during the course of the movie. I just find it curious, kind of interesting to contemplate, as to why, and who. It's almost tradition for the films. lol. For instance...

Brother Bear - Koda loses his mother; Kenai his brother
Treasure Planet - Jim's father isn't there, if I recall
Lilo & Stitch - Lilo lost her mother and father
Tarzan - he was raised by apes
The Hunchback of Notre Dame - no family that I recall
Pocahontas - remember her dad, but did she have a mother?
The Lion King - Simba's dad is murdered
Aladdin - he was an orphan, no family
Beauty and the Beast - she had no mother
The Rescuers Down Under - Cody's father had died
The Little Mermaid - Ariel had no mother
Oliver & Company - Oliver was an orphan
The Great Mouse Detective - Olivia's parents weren't there
The Fox and the Hound - Todd's mother was shot
The Rescuers - Penny has no parents, is an orphan
The Aristocats - There's no father, but Thomas O'Malley (sp?) comes in
Dumbo - no father
Bambi - his mother is shot
Pinocchio - no family, but Gepetto (sp?)
Snow White - I'm guessing she had lost her family

Anyway, that's not all of the animated classics, of course, but...anyway, I wonder if the stories just...happen this way. Or if it's intentional? So the characters can have something big to overcome, or change them, or...and the death/absence works for the films, and I love the films. But it would kind of be nice to see at least ONE film where the character had a complete, intact family. lol. Mulan did, didn't she? I can't remember. Oh, and 101 Dalmatians did. That's the clearest example. No loss of family members in that one. In fact, an over-abundance of family! :)
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I am not sure it is fair to include Pinocchio in that list. :lol:
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Yeah. :lol:

Since he wasn't actually a kid to begin with. But he became a real boy in the end, though!

He's a special case, let's say. :)
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Disney's idea is to remove all family-figures that could potentially help the situation. It's supposed to make the hero rely on their own strengths to see themselves through.

It's completely unrealistic though: no matter what is happening in your life, there will always be someone who can help you besides, well, YOU!
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You know what. I have heard this sometime before on this forum. I think that all of those Disneys were perfect. And it makes no matter that the familys were missing in these classic Disney's.
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Disney relies on fairy tale structures. Many fairy tales present children as orphans or place their family in jeopardy as a way of illiciting interest and sympathy from an audience of children.
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Post by Sword and the Stone Rocks »

Also:

Cinderella - No Parents
Peter Pan - No parents
Sword in the Stone - No mother
Jungle Book - No Parents
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Sword and the Stone Rocks wrote:Also:
Sword in the Stone - No mother
Wasn't Arthur adopted? I think he didn't really have a father either.
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Sword and the Stone Rocks wrote:Also:

Cinderella - No Parents
Peter Pan - No parents
Sword in the Stone - No mother
Jungle Book - No Parents
Cinderella as i recalled had a father but died and the stepmother. Jungle Book I don't remeber what happened to his parents.
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That's the funniest thing; just the other day my friends and I were trying to come up with examples of Disney classics containing full, intact families for their main characters. We came up with 3:
Hercules
Mulan
Lion King II
I didn't think of 101 Dalmatians. That was a good 'spot'. Oh my god, that's the corniest joke I've ever made in a forum . . . :roll:
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jambo*rafiki wrote:That's the funniest thing; just the other day my friends and I were trying to come up with examples of Disney classics containing full, intact families for their main characters. We came up with 3:
Hercules
Mulan
Lion King II
I didn't think of 101 Dalmatians. That was a good 'spot'. Oh my god, that's the corniest joke I've ever made in a forum . . . :roll:
Yeah, it's funny - people have made a lot about Lilo and Stitch being this great step ahead for Disney, showing a disfunctional family. When you put it that way, I guess all of them were "little and broken"!

However, I guess the difference was that Lilo and Stitch showed a disfunctional family that wasn't going to live "happily ever after" once a prince came along, but rather would remain disfunctional. Lilo and Stitch goes one step further and says "Hey, that's all cool too - it's broken but it still works".
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jambo*rafiki wrote:That's the funniest thing; just the other day my friends and I were trying to come up with examples of Disney classics containing full, intact families for their main characters. We came up with 3:
Hercules
Mulan
Lion King II
I didn't think of 101 Dalmatians. That was a good 'spot'. Oh my god, that's the corniest joke I've ever made in a forum . . . :roll:
"Sleeping Beauty"... Aurora is the only Disney princess to have a father AND a mother!

Oh, and during the production of "Pocahontas", they were thinking of giving her a mother, but discarded it because, in real life, Powhatan must have had many daughters with different wives. So, they turned Pokey's mother into a spirit. :)
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A few months ago, one of my friends IMd me and another of my friends, and asked us this trivia question:

Only 3 Disney animated movies feature both a mother and father present that both live throughout the entire movie. (Hint: One of the movies have 2 sets of living mothers and fathers).

After a bit of brain-racking, we found that 4 qualify. Joe got the one that wasn't included in the official answer (Sleeping Beauty). Care to guess the other 3?

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awallaceunc wrote:A few months ago, one of my friends IMd me and another of my friends, and asked us this trivia question:

Only 3 Disney animated movies feature both a mother and father present that both live throughout the entire movie. (Hint: One of the movies have 2 sets of living mothers and fathers).

After a bit of brain-racking, we found that 4 qualify. Joe got the one that wasn't included in the official answer (Sleeping Beauty). Care to guess the other 3?

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Hercules
Peter Pan
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This is just going by the "official answer" that came with the question. Peter Pan was one of the three, the others were not. I can't remember it now, but there was an explanation for why Mulan & Hercules didn't qualify. I haven't seen them more than once, or recently enough to remember.

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