The Martins and the Coys: Deleted Short from Make Mine Music

Lazario · Post by **Lazario** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:27 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtyUycHvYls

This was added to YouTube on October 14th. There is actually quite a bit of Disney stuff on YouTube. I don't know when the jerks at Disney's legal department will eventually bite them for it and have those videos removed... But in the meantime, someone should enjoy them since vid's like this deleted short from the Make Mine Music DVD were decided by the idiot company are not appropriate for the DVD.

I hope it's complete. It's the 7:13 version. So...

PatrickvD · Post by **PatrickvD** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:58 pm

I noticed this last week.

Had never seen the segment. These dvd's are really only bought by hardcore Disney fans so I don't get Disney.

They should have really released all of the 40's features restored in a WDT's type of context instead of edited and chopped up for no reason.

Siren · Post by **Siren** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:12 pm

I remember that!

singerguy04 · Post by **singerguy04** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:33 pm

Although I personally don't think it's so bad, here are some reasons it may have been cut...

1.) The whole moonshine thing
2.) The two families kill each other with their guns (And it's taken lightly)
3.) The marital abuse is funny thing
4.) Hillbillie stereotypes

That's more reason to take it out that with Song of the South. lol

musicradio77 · Post by **musicradio77** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:36 pm

I remember that short when it was on the Disney Channel many years ago when "Vault Disney" ran a lost 1946 animated classic "Make Mine Music" in its entirety. I have a copy on my DVD-R, because it was originally recorded off VHS and the audio was not that good. The movie "Make Mine Music" taped off of Disney Channel has "The Martin and the Coys" intact.

DisneyFanatic · Post by **DisneyFanatic** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:11 pm

I love this short & was glad to watch it when I first caught it a few weeks ago...I'm sure it will be removed shortly because Disney legal doesn't like to allow people to watch things that are NOT for sale & they CAN'T even buy!!!!!

BelleGirl · Post by **BelleGirl** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:28 am

I taped 'Make mine Music' on VHS years ago when it was broadcasted on TV. This one included 'The Martins and the Coys".

So I just have to see how long the VHS tape will last.

dvdjunkie · Post by **dvdjunkie** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:08 am

For those purists, the company that is advertising "Song of the South" DVD, unedited, 2-disc edition, across the top of UD front page, includes this short complete and in a great digital mastering process. I reluctantly bought the DVD, but after asking Luke about it and he said they don't have any control over the advertising, I thought I would get it so I would have some ammunition to have them thrown off for false advertising, but NO!!!!!! they have included a prestine copy of "SotS", and on the second disc is seven cartoons, most of them are hard to find Warner Bros. 'toons including "Coal Black and the Sebben Dwarfs", and the Disney "Martin and the Coys". It is definitely worth the money to have this edition in your collection until Disney gets off their collective arses and gives us a 'legitimate' copy.

SwordInTheStone777 · Post by **SwordInTheStone777** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:46 pm

I thought it was The Hatfield's and The Macoy's?

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:10 pm

SwordInTheStone777 wrote:I thought it was The Hatfield's and The Macoy's?

The Martins and the Coys are based on the famous Hatfield/McCoy feud.

Scaps

Lazario · Post by **Lazario** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:25 am

DisneyFanatic wrote:I'm sure it will be removed shortly because Disney legal doesn't like to allow people to watch things that are NOT for sale & they CAN'T even buy!!!!! :x

Well then, let's enjoy it as much as we can before they do. :D

By the way... I have a few more important / rare Disney clips. Enjoy 'em while you can:

One version of the deleted sequence from Pecos Bill / Melody Time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHF369n6qNM (no audio)
(THIS VIDEO HAS NOW BEEN REMOVED BY YouTube)

Another, with audio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOWuFVQg8Mc
(First cigarette: 1:38) (Second: 2:03) (Third: 2:18)

One that I discovered really late at night last week, I stayed up and watched nearly the whole thing because it was such a nostalgic rush:

Disney's Halloween Treat (in Ten clips) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB_NxEtYCsA (Opening theme, 1:43 = Fantasia - A Night on Bald Mountain, 4:48 = Pumpkin on table, Witch Montage, 5:08 = The Sword in the Stone - the Wizard's Duel)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LFL7y7sVlM (The Old Mill? , 6:30 = Mickey Mouse and Pluto clip - mischevious pair of shoes, 7:27 = Donald / Huey, Duey, Louey cartoon - escaped gorilla) (cuts off)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OH5OrTrjng (Continuation of Donald Duck, 4:33 = Pooh / Blustery Day - Heffalumps and Woozles musical number, 8:11 = Pluto cartoon - cats stealing milk) (cuts off)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX-YZi7QnnY (Continuation of Pluto - nightmare of persecution by cats, 5:35 = "The domestic cat," 8:33 = Lady and the Tramp - the Siamese cats) (cuts off)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oimo0p9V8dk (Continuation of Lady / Tramp, 0:57 = Guest of Honor: Magic Mirror defends the Disney Villain, 2:09 = Peter Pan - showdown on the ship / croc-fight in the cave, 6:14 = Aristocats - "the butler did it") (cuts off)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N87UKbw1YBE (Contination of Aristocats clip, 1:25 = Mickey / Beanstalk - fooling Willy, 7:49 = Jungle Book - "Trust in Me") (cuts off)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FXXONrMSaQ (Continuation of JB - Shere Khan, 0:56 = Snow White / Dwarfs - Evil Queen / Peddlar Woman clips, 5:44 = Sleeping Beauty - Maleficent taunts Phillip / dungeon) (cuts off)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4lvlSEPnjY (Continuation of SB - escape from the castle, 2:02 = montage of other villainesses, 3:32 = Mickey / Goofy / Donald cartoon about ghost hunters)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBvqTUo5xek (Repeats several minutes of the ghost hunters cartoon, 2:55 = Donald / Huey, Duey, Luey cartoon - Trick or Treat?) (cuts off)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WKKv68tKmg (Continuation of Donald/HDL cartoon, 0:45 = Closing Theme)

UncleEd · Post by **UncleEd** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:24 am

What kinds of extra features is on this SOTS DVD? Is Pecos Bill uncut also on it and the cut Fantasia stuff?

I'm not for bootlegs but when a studio isn't selling an official copy as an animation historian what choice do we have?

SwordInTheStone777 · Post by **SwordInTheStone777** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:45 am

SOTS? Song Of The South was a Disney film?

Lars Vermundsberget · Post by **Lars Vermundsberget** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:43 am

Undoubtedly.

As for the complete MMM - I was able to tape it some time more than ten years ago and I eventually even got the Japanese laserdisc at a somewhat reasonable price.

SwordInTheStone777 · Post by **SwordInTheStone777** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:12 am

What year was Song Of The South? Was it a package film?

dvdjunkie · Post by **dvdjunkie** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:15 am

Walt Disney's Song of the South (1946) starred Ruth Warrick, James Baskett (as Uncle Remus), Luana Patten and Bobby Driscoll. It was released several different times over the years, and has never been released on video tape or DVD. There is a great Japanese LaserDisc version that is still available, but a little hard to find nowadays.

The two-disc special edition of 'Song of the South' that is sold here on the UD website, is truly a 'bootleg', but it is a fabulously well-done bootleg. It says 'unedited', but as far as I know it was never edited anyway, so that doesn't mean a thing.

What is really good about it is the fact that the second disc, while not the pristine quality of the first disc which contains the full-length movie and two different trailers for it, is a delight for any collector of old out-of-print cartoons. There is only one Disney 'toon in the seven, that is the short "The Martins and the Coys" that was edited out of Disney's "Make Mine Music", and the infamous Warner Bros. satire of 'Snow White' called "Coal Black and the Sebben Dwarfs". There are some other highlights such as an audio-only interview with Walt Disney about 'Song of the South' and a short on the 'Making of SotS'. The cartoons are broken down into segments - one is called 'Speedy Gonzales and Friends' and this segment has the 'Martins and Coys' and 'de Sebben dwarfs' 'toons in it. The second segment is called "An Officer and a Duck" which features the Donald Duck cartoons from WWII, and the third segments if four wonderful "Ant and the Aardvark" cartoons.

For their asking price, this two-disc set is worth every nickle. Maybe if enough of us order it, Disney will realize that they better put a legitimate release out ASAP.

To answer the other questions, no there is no sequences from "Pecos Bill" or "Fantasia" on this set. Just "Song of the South" and then the extras on the second disc.

Hope this clarifies your questions about "Song of the South". Rather than take up room on this thread you may PM with any questions you may have about this 2-disc Special Edition.

SwordInTheStone777 · Post by **SwordInTheStone777** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:33 am

Was Song Of The South the one with the rabit, fox, and bear?

The Ant And The Aardvark was done by the DePatie/Freleng, the same people who did The Pink Panther

Lars Vermundsberget · Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:45 am

Yes, SotS includes nice animated segments with the rabbit, the fox and the bear.

SotS was available on VHS tape in Europe years ago.

ichabod · Post by **ichabod** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:50 am

Lars Vermundsberget wrote:SotS was available on VHS tape in Europe years ago.

Yes,and before anyone asks VHS is a bit like DVD only squarer and all rolled up.

SwordInTheStone777 · Post by **SwordInTheStone777** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:33 pm

ichabod wrote:

Yes,and before anyone asks VHS is a bit like DVD only squarer and all rolled up.

I think most, if not all of us in this forum know the difference between VHS and DVD.

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