I Would Like to Know... (Who Here is Gay?)

[Alice]

Alright whatever, so what's the current head count?

[Prudence]

Alright whatever, so what's the current head count?

Unless I've miscounted heads, we have 22 homosexual members and 6 bisexual members. That is, these are all of those who have "come out" on the forums, so to speak. We probably have more.

[Alice]

Well well well, hasn't this number gotten larger since I remember.

[Nandor]

oh and excuse me who said femmies would want to date you?

A femmy told me once (A)

You're absolutely right, I'm too picky. That would explain why i'm 21 and i've never been in a relationship and only been on one (very awkward and horrible) date.

Same here! Haven't really dated a lot and never even been in a relationship... Our time will come ^^

[Billy Moon]

Well, it's true that there's no such thing as straight or gay "acting." When you're just being yourself, you act however's in your nature.

I couldn't agree more. It annoyes me so much when gay people describe themselves as "straight acting", because it gives me the impression that they think other gay people act so differently from anybody else, that everyone can tell they're gay from a mile away.

Usually the ones who describe themselves as "straight acting" are the ones I could identify as gay within seconds - and the most uncomfortable with their own sexuality.

[Disney Duster]

Straight-acting: It seems to me that a lot of the people who act "straight" are just not actingly flamboyently, so I wonder if it's more like you're acting restrictedly, controled, and without any fabulousness. I know I tend to act gayer when I'm happy...and yes, I realize gay and happy meant the same thing once upon a time. I thimk I tend to act gayer when I'm myself, though I'm not sure it that's really what's going on. I like what Billy Moon said, though I don't know if I can agree because I just haven't experiences or noticed what he has.

Since we're all swapping stories- I'll tell mine.

That was a pretty sad story. I'm sure you don't want pity and would never ask for it, but I'm gonna say I'm sorry you had to find out that way. The fact that you learned you were gay on your own before other gay people could recruit you or tell you, is a sign of your intelligence, I think. It's so great that even in the homophobic place you lived, you were able to know who you were and not suppress it. Of course, you didn't tell people, but you didn't try to think yourself straight, either.

When you said you had no personaility of your own, I found that puzzling. Do you mean that you acted like every other straight, common, "normal" guy around you, because even a group of straight guys have different personalities among themselves.

Your story about growing up with all those boobs (too funny) is an inspiring one that no matter what you're taught or what you're around, you will always be who you are. It does then bring up some deep and troubling questions about if nature decides who we are and we can't do anything about it, but since I'd say nature simultaneously makes us like who we are, on the inside at least (that's debatable, too, I know), maybe it's not so troubling.

Anyway, I myself am a great case for teaching conservatives that being gay is not a choice or a sin in and of itself (by the way, Catholicism teaches that being homosexual isn't a sin, but acting on it, as in a man having sex with another man, is a sin), since I have always been very girly and fit the gay stereotypes since I can remember, before pre-school. And of course I had my first crush on a boy in Catholic middle school.

Your story also, wonderfully, teaches that you can't turn someone straight (or in other words program them straight as you said). Unless they say your whole entire life raising you to be straight wasn't the way they do it, which might be mind control or torturing you until you trick you're mind into thinking you're straight to stop the pain...

Your Coyote Ugly reference could have been covered if you said all that stuff was "sinful", maybe? Of course, maybe if you started talking about good movie-making or art that would be seen as gay.

most people who vote for Republicans think women should have less rights and gays should have none- that's a dynamic we all deep down inside wish would change)

Wait, so is that like saying deep down inside everyone is "good", and maybe every human on Earth would want to allow gays to be gay and all people to be happy if something would only happen to let them act on these beliefs too deep down to know are there?

It's sad that your teacher would never forget only one person. I guess everyone else really was boring and that different from you.

I have no idea if you're barking at me to "leave" you guys alone or just simply saying something else.

After all I DID start this thread in the first place to know of who else is gay on UD.

I was not telling you to leave, but I did forget you started this thread. So yes, you are very welcome in your own thread. Stay, as you have.

[Chernabog_Rocks]

Thanks Simba3 for clearing that up for me, I think what confused me was "acting" since I'm not acting straight it's just me being me I have no clue, I'm just sort of plowing through learning as I go.

[Billy Moon]

I like what Billy Moon said, though I don't know if I can agree because I just haven't experiences or noticed what he has.

it could be a local thing... or maybe I just attract weirdos.

[MickeyMouseboy]

damn im gone for a while and chaos starts! ::pulls whip:: ok everyone settle down MMB is back!

[BambiFan87]

I want a more straight edged gay guy....at my college this one gay guy likes me but hes SO flamboyant I cant stand it....I mean I love to have fun a get crazy and not care but like I burped the one time on the phone w/ him and he like "ooommggg you burped" and I wa slike yea I just ate lol, what you dont? and he was like omg nooo and if I do I hide it. I was like give me a break! and he has a fake tan and blah blah blah but hes not that bad looking....

[MickeyMouseboy]

Alright whatever, so what's the current head count?

Unless I've miscounted heads, we have 22 homosexual members and 6 bisexual members. That is, these are all of those who have "come out" on the forums, so to speak. We probably have more.

that was funny "we probably have more" that made me chuckle

[Lazario]

Well, it's true that there's no such thing as straight or gay "acting." When you're just being yourself, you act however's in your nature.

I couldn't agree more. It annoyes me so much when gay people describe themselves as "straight acting", because it gives me the impression that they think other gay people act so differently from anybody else, that everyone can tell they're gay from a mile away.

Usually the ones who describe themselves as "straight acting" are the ones I could identify as gay within seconds - and the most uncomfortable with their own sexuality.

Well, you know, I should probably step in to say something about that here.

It's not like there's any true way to act or be. And certainly I've noticed some effeminate males are acting too. They don't act more or less effeminate, but they try to act high-and-mightier in social situations. Trying to outdo other gay guys and women. It's a cliche, but I do think a lot of gay men become very outwardly self-hating, or confused, and want to assume an identity people assume as being superior (without necessarily seeing it in action for themselves) in one way or another.

Sort of like things Margaret Cho has said- (paraphrase- I don't know the direct quote word for word) "you can't mix your new gay with your old gay" and "wherever there's queens, there's bitchiness." Meaning, many gay guys feel a strong sense of competition with/against each other. Now, I'm not saying in a room of 20 gay guys, all of them will be this way. Maybe 10, maybe less (yes- now I am scaring myself: I'm regarding people as objects in a metaphor/analogy and grouping them together).


It's hard to say where these behaviors come from. Competition is strongly inherent in males (as is insecurity). But as for jealousy... that is often portrayed as happening in large groups of women. I won't say I notice it one way or the other, I've never been a women in a large group of women (or the only male in one). But as for being uncomfortable... that's probably one of those things that just comes with life.

[Prudence]

Competition is strong in many types of females, as well.

Unless I've miscounted heads, we have 22 homosexual members and 6 bisexual members. That is, these are all of those who have "come out" on the forums, so to speak. We probably have more.

that was funny "we probably have more" that made me chuckle

How is that funny? What BambiFan87 said was funny, but I don't see how what I said was.

[Disney Duster]

I want a more straight edged gay guy....

Straight Edged means you don't drink, smoke, have sex, or any of that "bad" stuff. Of course, you can have sex when you get married or whatever, and you can get very close to having sex out of wedlock, but beyond third base I don't think so.

But I, too, hate it when the more feminine guys don't like burping or...other "gross" things. That's part of the reason why I thought I would like being gay: we're all men, we all know what men do because we do it too so we should all be okay with it. I'm sorry but how the hell is shooting off in front of someone less gross than burping in front of them?!

[Lazario]

I love to burp and it never offends me when other people do it.

The thing most people are grossed out by is the smell. I think.

[singerguy04]

So i've been thinking lately about what is it that i don't like about guys who are typically catagorized as "flamboyant" and some recent posts in this thread kind of go along with it. I think a personality type that goes along with falmboyancy more than not is that they are very uptight. A lot of flamboyant guys seem very bitchy, stubborn, and stuck-up to me. I just want a guy who I can go have fun with and also be able to chill with. I don't want a guy who's going to freak out if someone farts or burps. I don't want a guy who feels like they are walking down a run-way 24/7 either. Something else that is catagorized with flamboyancy more than not is arrogance too. It's so unnatractive.

I go to a big Theater and Music school and a lot of people here even joke that there are more gay guys than straight guys here and after 4 years of school here, this seems to be a common theme. I on the other hand feel like I'm in between. I don't really see myself as anything. I know I can be pretty feminine from time to time (i mean, i've seen Mariah Carey and Cher on tour twice each), but then again I fit in with a lot of straight guys and actually have more straight friends than gay friends (I'm in a fraternity on campus and I live in the house where I'm the only gay guy). I just feel like a lot of fem guys go WAY out of their way to be more fem. It makes me wonder if it really is them being what they want to be or if they are just trying to out-do other gay guys...

[Escapay]

Competition is strong in many types of females, as well.

that was funny

How is that funny? What BambiFan87 said was funny, but I don't see how what I said was.

To adapt something from the Fourth Doctor*...

"There are more gay people on UD...probably"

I think Gus found it funny that there could be more people on UD who have yet to announce their sexuality (especially since this thread is over 2 years old, so only having 22 "out" members when there are thousands is...funny?)

As for me, I'm on the heterosexual side of the Kinsey scale, but I can acknowledge that there are attractive features of both sexes, be it a physical attraction or a personal/emotional attraction. The human body is a wonderful thing, and we should be able to appreciate it regardless of the "quaint little categories" (Captain Jack Harkness) that society has created over the years.

Scaps

*actual line: "You're a beautiful woman...probably"

[Flanger-Hanger]

Unless I've miscounted heads, we have 22 homosexual members

Correction, we have 23.

[Prudence]

-gives appropriate nods to the previous two posters-

I don't act 'masculine' in ways such as burping, but I have been told I act like a gentleman. Heh. When I was so young that I hadn't developed certain female parts yet, people mistook me for an elongated twig of a little boy.

[Jack Skellington]

When I was younger I suspected that eveyone is Bisexual to some extent,
mainly because I'm Bi myself.

Statisticaly speaking, are there more Bisexual people than exclusivly Hetereo/Homo-Sexual people or vica-versa ?

And is there anyway to find out if someone is Bisexual in a general way ?

(sorry if this post belongs to somewhere like Yahoo Answers, but I'm just curious ! )