The Filth Being Shown During Prime Time on Network TV

[blackcauldron85]

As for American politics, that some of you bring up from time to time: I think it's terrible that you have just those two alternatives to choose between - which seems to reinforce the tendency to polarize: "If you aren't with us, you are against us - if you aren't with us, you are an idiot".

Well, there are also other parties- the Independents, the Green Party, Libertarians. But Democrats and Republicans are the 2 most "popular" ones.

As far as the shows on TV, I don't have kids, but I only watch a few channels myself- 99% of the time I watch Disney Channel, and I like Food Network and Discovery Health. I'll watch Discovery Kids for "Flight 29 Down" and Nickelodeon for "Drake and Josh" and "Zoey 101" and sometimes The N for "Degrassi" (which does push the envelope, but it deals with issues that teens deal with). And that's pretty much all I watch. There are exceptions, but I don't watch much more than what I posted.

[Lazario]

Again, that is your opinion and your entitled to it. Just like I am entitled to think your opinion is garbage compared to mine. But that's just my opinion.

No- you know that's hogwash. Because, I could never have a "garbage opinion." Except, of course, that old cans and stained clumps of paper... they don't smell so nice after a few weeks in the hot sun.

It's what's in our opinions that count. You know Buffy is just fodder, you just won't own up to it. Which is fine, I'm not ordering you around. But... I'll tell you something- you're just wasting time trying to establish this "it's all just an opinion" thing. It's our opinion whether we like it or not. Yeah. Because that element is like art- we often put into it what is in ourselves... But then, there's also what it is (by the sum of it's parts) and why it was made. It's like a cheap magazine- if people like the cover, they'll buy anything in it. But what's actually in it is as cheap as the pretty cover design. That's why it's for sale next to the Tabloid rags. Meaning...it has no more depth to it than a reality TV contest show. And just as much simulated excitement as something like Fear Factor.


Have a Pleasent Day.

[Siren]

Not at all. I just don't waste my time with trying to get people to agree with me all the time just so I can feel better about myself and raise my ego.

In the wise words of Giles under Joss's pen I quote:
"If I want your opinion, Spike, I'll... I'll never want your opinion."

Anyways, back on topic.

[Lars Vermundsberget]

Well, there are also other parties- the Independents, the Green Party, Libertarians. But Democrats and Republicans are the 2 most "popular" ones.

I was aware that there are more, even though I couldn't have named them. But as long as they combined account for way less than 1% of the votes, that isn't going to make much difference in the big picture. It seems to me that this makes it hard to achieve a more balanced political debate.

(Just commenting on the debate itself - I don't intend to get into American party politics here, which would be terribly off-topic.)

[Siren]

When Animal Planet first started they put their channel out to a lot (if not all the cable companies) as a test market. I was totally floored, I loved it. 24/7 animal documentaries. It was the first time I saw Crocodile Hunter. I was in my element. Then suddenly, after about 2 months, the channel was blank. I called the cable company to see what was wrong. The channel worked fine, but the local cable company had a BLOCK on it for all of Flagler County. I asked why, apparently a lot of people called and complained about the "violence" of the channel. WTF? I wrote several letters, editorials, posted on local county forums, talked to teachers, local zookeepers, did all I could to get the word out there that the channel was educational and not violent. The last letter I sent was the day I cancelled my cable service and got Dish Network. Finally the cable company was bought out by Brighthouse and they brought the channel back. I sent a letter to Brighthouse telling them what happened and I was glad to have them as my cable company and signed up for internet and phone through them because of that.

But it goes to show you how anal people can be. Is nature violent? No, not really. All the "violence" in nature is so animals can exist. For some to live, others must die. The idea they blocked Animal Planet, but allowed shows like Jerry Springer and Cops, which have a lot of violence is beyond me. People are way too thin skinned and hypocritical.

On Family Guy itself. I've never been impressed by it. I don't find it amusing, but others do so who am I to judge. Besides, most of the time, if the majority of the public likes it, I usually hate it,

[memnv]

I love Family Guy, American Dad, The Simpsons and Futurama, but I agree they are all shown too early, At least on Cartoon Network Family Guy is on adult swim.

[PeterPanfan]

When Animal Planet first started they put their channel out to a lot (if not all the cable companies) as a test market. I was totally floored, I loved it. 24/7 animal documentaries. It was the first time I saw Crocodile Hunter. I was in my element. Then suddenly, after about 2 months, the channel was blank. I called the cable company to see what was wrong. The channel worked fine, but the local cable company had a BLOCK on it for all of Flagler County. I asked why, apparently a lot of people called and complained about the "violence" of the channel. WTF? I wrote several letters, editorials, posted on local county forums, talked to teachers, local zookeepers, did all I could to get the word out there that the channel was educational and not violent. The last letter I sent was the day I cancelled my cable service and got Dish Network. Finally the cable company was bought out by Brighthouse and they brought the channel back. I sent a letter to Brighthouse telling them what happened and I was glad to have them as my cable company and signed up for internet and phone through them because of that.

But it goes to show you how anal people can be. Is nature violent? No, not really. All the "violence" in nature is so animals can exist. For some to live, others must die. The idea they blocked Animal Planet, but allowed shows like Jerry Springer and Cops, which have a lot of violence is beyond me. People are way too thin skinned and hypocritical.

On Family Guy itself. I've never been impressed by it. I don't find it amusing, but others do so who am I to judge. Besides, most of the time, if the majority of the public likes it, I usually hate it,

That is INSANE! I don't think Animal Planet has ever been "blocked" on our cable station,but I would be furious if it was! By doing that,a lot of parents probably thought they were wrong in the first place by letting their children watch "violence" on television,when it was just cute animals trying to live! Ughh..I'm glad you have it back now,though.

[Lazario]

Not at all. I just don't waste my time with trying to get people to agree with me all the time just so I can feel better about myself and raise my ego.

In the wise words of Giles under Joss's pen I quote:
"If I want your opinion, Spike, I'll... I'll never want your opinion."

It sure took a lot of ego for you to write that.

And that quote is pathetic. It shows just how low the talent-requirements for "writers" were on that trashy program.

[Alice]

This is much on about nothing. Seriously, you're the parent not the TV.
You have to teach your child what's right from wrong and all that jazz, BUT it's OD to call FG "vile trash". \

"Violent" Video Games, music, and movies are NOT the downfall of our children. Lackluster PARENTING is. Same with over sexed images and themes. Teach your child to not fuck for the sake of fucking and it'll be all right. I think a parent should teach their child before they encounter this OR even if the child encounters it first, for them to sit down and explain to them what's right and what's wrong and the key word is EXPLAIN. Not just say it, explain it.

[Ariel'sprince]

That's crazy,Siren,when i was at Turkey we in the hotal things a violante version of Netional Giogrpaich with clips like a guy drive in a Jeep an elepenth and shoot him,the elepneth fell and ravens fly to him....
Anyway parents should keep their children away from such things insted of blaming the media.

[Prudence]

It's called a television remote. Use it. Or turn the box off.

[Siren]

It goes back to parents, teachers, police, etc blaming tv, video games, and movies for violent behavior. With or without those outlets, a bad person is still going to do bad things. Most of the games, tv, music and movies that has been blamed for violent kids, I have played/watched/listened to. I play shoot-em up role playing games and listen to hard core metal. But I am not a violent person. I know the difference between fantasy and reality and I was raised by good parents who instilled in me life lessons about how others should be treated. Kids who are violent tend to be missing something at home.

[dvdjunkie]

In Lazario's siggy:

Republicans Can't Win Presidential Elections Anymore, So They Pay People to Electronically Force the Votes in Their Favor. They call it Cheating because it's Wrong!

And you don't think Hilary Clinton offering $500 bonds to anyone who has a child during her reign isn't buying the vote? C'mon, get your head out of your collective arse, and quite thinking that the Democrats are the only answer. They are just as guilty of buying the vote as any other party is. And someone should blow up "Move On dot org", that is the most bizarre, untruthful, mind-warping stuff there is. A Clinton in office spells doom for our country because she/he doesn't have any answers, just more problems.

If you have any answers, I would be more than happy to hear them, we have a little more than 350 days until election and the fate of the world is awaiting the vote.

[Siren]

[Siren]

Double post

But anyways, geez, I get sick of politics on tv. If I wanted to read politics, I'd go to a thread about it and watch the fireworks.

[Lazario]

Do you still not care about my opinion?

Because, I was going to say: "Good POINT."

[azul017]

Not at all. I just don't waste my time with trying to get people to agree with me all the time just so I can feel better about myself and raise my ego.

In the wise words of Giles under Joss's pen I quote:
"If I want your opinion, Spike, I'll... I'll never want your opinion."

It sure took a lot of ego for you to write that.

And that quote is pathetic. It shows just how low the talent-requirements for "writers" were on that trashy program.

You really are an elitist, Laz. Admit it. I don't know how many eps of the show you've seen, but obviously in the single-digits. Have you even seen Angel or Firefly? Those shows are so far removed from Buffy in terms of story and characters that you might enjoy them if you haven't seen them already.

[thatartguy]

If Republicans Were Smart - They Would Be Democrats

While were pulling out really bad ideas out of nowhere, "Democrats are Republicans that haven't been mugged yet."

[Lazario]

You really are an elitist, Laz. Admit it.

Sure. Because I hate bad TV.

As far as how many episodes I've seen... I watched plenty from all seasons. They all stunk.

[Pluto Region1]

It goes back to parents, teachers, police, etc blaming tv, video games, and movies for violent behavior. With or without those outlets, a bad person is still going to do bad things. Most of the games, tv, music and movies that has been blamed for violent kids, I have played/watched/listened to. I play shoot-em up role playing games and listen to hard core metal. But I am not a violent person. I know the difference between fantasy and reality and I was raised by good parents who instilled in me life lessons about how others should be treated. Kids who are violent tend to be missing something at home.

Well, I realize this is the case, but WHY has it come to this? Why is society an "anything goes" place now where even prime time network television is full of adult-content themes? I don't have any children, but I watch my 2 sisters raising theirs and how they have to be cognizant of everything they watch! It is crazy. I'm sorry I just can't fully agree that it is ONLY the parent's responsibility to raise or watch for everything. You'd have to be super-parent, or stay-at-home parent, to manage it. (for those of you who want to talk politics here, wasn't it Hillary who said, "It Takes a Village"?)

I hate to beat a dead horse here (and we know they would not show such a thing on Animal Planet ).... When I was a kid, my mom had to work and would not have had the time to police what I watched. If you have a cable box and know how to block channels, great. But if you are a poor family using the rabbit ears and have to work, your kids have access to all this adult content... its just sad. I realize the world has changed a lot since I grew up in the 1960s-1970s - the computers, I guess we can't go backwards, but I think something as simple as putting "Family Guy" on later at night - is that much to ask for?! Someone here even mentioned that its on "Adult Swim" on the Cartoon Network, and that is where it should be.

I don't mind the politics - you guys just don't get too personal and attack each other to the point where you can't even have fun here in the forums. Lars is right - yes, we do have other parties - anyone can create one, but I think everyone remembers what happened when Ross Perot ran and then in the 2000 election with Nader. In essence, 3rd parties just aren't viable and the media shuts them out of the debates anyway. Both the Dems and Repubs have their negative aspects - there is no answer, IMO.

No offense to those of you who enjoy Family Guy - you're adults (assuming here) and have a right to enjoy whatever type of comedy you want.